woodenhead Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Western Aviator said: I think they are ultrasonic rail defect detectors. Faster lads or they are going to replace us with a 125 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Western Aviator said: I think they are ultrasonic rail defect detectors. Slightly slower than the last generation of 'Sperries'.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Swayfield photo’s and J7816, is one the very few times I’ve seen the ultrasonic rail defect detectors in use. Now in the first photo’ with Deltic 55010 on the down Aberdonian in November, 1975, makes a fine and most nostalgic sight. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted May 30, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Carlisle in 1987 and 1988 again today, it was still dull and wet at times! Carlisle 87010 and 86438 up steel coil 27th Oct 87 C9195.jpg Carlisle 155307 on test 27th Oct 87 C9202 Carlisle Class 108 54249 and 53966 Carlisle to Whitehaven 12th April 88 C9400.jpg Carlisle 31270 up rail train 12th April 88 C9407 Carlisle 86426 E3195 Euston to Stranraer 12th April 88 C9426.jpg David Edited April 7, 2022 by DaveF To correct a caption 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Great Photos as usual Dave - I would question the last working as it is a down train approaching Carlisle from the south, the presence of the GUVs suggest a Motorail working which could be Glasgow Central bound. Edit - or perhaps the Clansman? Jim Edited May 30, 2019 by luckymucklebackit 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Carlisle photo’s which bring plenty of memories back. In C9407, with class 31, 31270, on an up rail train, on the 12th April, 1988, you have captured a great broadside portrait of the locomotive. Also, in C9202, with class 155, 155307 on test on the 27th Oct, 1987, it brings back memories of the door, amongst other problems, that those units at first had. I know modifications had to be made. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted May 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) C9426 has typos galore I’m afraid. It’s 86426 not 246 and the train is heading north so Euston to Stranraer not t’other way round. Edited May 30, 2019 by brushman47544 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 86 426 is in the pseudo early livery it received for the InterCity21 event at Bounds Green in 1987. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, brushman47544 said: C9426 has typos galore I’m afraid. It’s 86426 not 246 and the train is heading north so Euston to Stranraer not t’other way round. It looks like it is taken from the S end of platform 3 with the bay 2 track immediately to the right Those buildings on the right are the ones in the middle of this Google Earth: https://goo.gl/maps/1SbL2zQXm4zqjvx78 Edited May 30, 2019 by melmerby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted May 30, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said: Great Photos as usual Dave - I would question the last working as it is a down train approaching Carlisle from the south, the presence of the GUVs suggest a Motorail working which could be Glasgow Central bound. Edit - or perhaps the Clansman? Jim 2 hours ago, brushman47544 said: C9426 has typos galore I’m afraid. It’s 86426 not 246 and the train is heading north so Euston to Stranraer not t’other way round. 1 hour ago, melmerby said: It looks like it is taken from the S end of platform 3 with the bay 2 track immediately to the right Those buildings on the right are the ones in the middle of this Google Earth: https://goo.gl/maps/1SbL2zQXm4zqjvx78 It is indeed 86426 on a Euston to Stranraer service. The leading GUVs are the Motorail service to Carlisle. They were removed from the train at Carlisle for unloading. They returned south on the up working of the Stranraer service. As for the caption errors - I can't think of any convincing explanation, the train and loco details are correct in my notes so it must be a lack of concentration while typing. I wasn't even in a rush on the day I did the captions. David 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 J7266 the cross armed pantograph loco may be 235. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted May 31, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) Bottesford today, in the early 1980s when there was quite a lot of variety in motive power using the line. Bottesford 47582 Parkeston Quay to Manchester Feb 82 J7628.jpg Bottesford 25316 down le and Class 114 Nov 81 J7611.jpg Bottesford 45137 probably Chesterfield to Skegness July 83 J7993.jpg Bottesford Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham March 83 J7843.jpg Bottesford Normanton Lane crossing 20105 and ano Skegness to Leicester May 82 J7649.jpg David Edited May 31, 2019 by DaveF 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Bottesford photo’s which are full of interest and, as you said, show the variety in motive power at the time of the photo’s. In J7611, in November, 1981, 25316 on a down light engine movement, with a class 114 DMU, you have a great composition which is most atmospheric. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Let's hope July 83 wasn't a scorcher as those aircons are going to get quite hot behind a 45/0..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted May 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Rob F said: Let's hope July 83 wasn't a scorcher as those aircons are going to get quite hot behind a 45/0..... I don’t think it is a 45/0 as it's got an ETH cable fitted, so it’s a 45/1. 45006 did carry a nameplate but the word arrangement was different to the one in Dave's picture. Edited May 31, 2019 by Western Aviator 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) J7993......45137 Bedfordshire And Hertfordshire Regiment (TA) I think....from the crest and nameplate layout (and looks like a '7'on the end of the number). Great photo Dave! Nice and cool in there Rob......a hot summer that was....spent most of it in Midland railtourers! Regards Guy Edited May 31, 2019 by balders Typo 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2019 I recall sweating a lot for much of the summer of ‘83, but it wasn’t quite as long or hot as ‘76! Last summer was similar to ‘76, but there we are, Dave’s excellent photo’s are bringing back all manner of memories. Please keep them coming, Dave. Best regards, Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 J7649 can't be 20 105, as it is headcode panel fitted. Closer inspection shows it to be 20 176 - in which case it's partner was 20 157 in May 1982. Re: J7993. On July 16th 1983 45 137 worked 1E85 09:22 Derby - Skegness and returned on 1M35 13:00 Skegness - Derby. Although that train was Class 20s and Mark Is during the week, every Saturday shows it to have been worked by a Class 45/1 - so presumably that was because air-conditioned stock was used (I honestly can't remember - but perhaps someone else can?). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 30/05/2019 at 18:14, melmerby said: Those buildings on the right are the ones in the middle of this Google Earth: https://goo.gl/maps/1SbL2zQXm4zqjvx78 That's Carlisle PSB. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 11 hours ago, Market65 said: I recall sweating a lot for much of the summer of ‘83, but it wasn’t quite as long or hot as ‘76! Last summer was similar to ‘76, but there we are, Dave’s excellent photo’s are bringing back all manner of memories. Please keep them coming, Dave. Best regards, Rob. The beginning of July '83 was certainly hot. My parents travelled from South Wales to Newcastle on the 2nd for our wedding on the 4th; the A/C on their HST carriage had failed, which exacerbated dad's emphysema. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 11 hours ago, 35A said: J7649 can't be 20 105, as it is headcode panel fitted. Closer inspection shows it to be 20 176 - in which case it's partner was 20 157 in May 1982. Re: J7993. On July 16th 1983 45 137 worked 1E85 09:22 Derby - Skegness and returned on 1M35 13:00 Skegness - Derby. Although that train was Class 20s and Mark Is during the week, every Saturday shows it to have been worked by a Class 45/1 - so presumably that was because air-conditioned stock was used (I honestly can't remember - but perhaps someone else can?). The AC stock was used on the Skeggy's regularly for the first time in 1983. When HSTs were introduced on the Midland, the Mk2s cascaded replaced the remaining mk1s which as the MML requirement was less at the weekend, had traditionally been used on the Saturday extras. The Mk1s displaced from the MML moved on to the Summer dated trains and the oldest (and most decrepit, they really were!) vacuum only mk1s were withdrawn. The locos followed the same pattern, fewer 45/1s and 47/4s required for the MML at the weekend freed these up for Skeggy runs. I don't have any record of a 45 at Skegness before 1982 but they were commonplace from 1983 onwards. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 hours ago, RANGERS said: The AC stock was used on the Skeggy's regularly for the first time in 1983. When HSTs were introduced on the Midland, the Mk2s cascaded replaced the remaining mk1s which as the MML requirement was less at the weekend, had traditionally been used on the Saturday extras. The Mk1s displaced from the MML moved on to the Summer dated trains and the oldest (and most decrepit, they really were!) vacuum only mk1s were withdrawn. The locos followed the same pattern, fewer 45/1s and 47/4s required for the MML at the weekend freed these up for Skeggy runs. I don't have any record of a 45 at Skegness before 1982 but they were commonplace from 1983 onwards. Many thanks for that. I'm surprised that I don't remember that, as I was doing a post-grad year at the Poly in Leicester from 1982-83 and photographed the changeover from 45s to HSTs around the May timetable change. With reducing academic workload I spent much time out with the 20s on the Skeggys that summer, on weekdays and occasionally on Sundays - but not, as I recall, on Saturdays. That's probably the reason why I did other things on Saturdays, although I'd forgotten the reason, 35 years on! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 1, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) Today's photos are of Southern bridges over the Thames in London. I took four of the photos (file names beginning with C as usual). Unusually I cannot remember anything at all about the days I took them, even though I didn't go to London very often. Cannon St station (a very little bit of it in the distance) from Tower Bridge Oct 75 C2483.jpg Charing Cross bridge 11th March 78 C3706 London Canon St 11th March 78 C3709 Blackfriars June 79 J6492 London Hungerford Bridge Aug 79 C4816 David Edited June 1, 2019 by DaveF 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the southern bridges over the River Thames in London photo’s which are full of interest. I think C3709, of the bridge at London Canon Street, on the 11th March, 1978, sums it up that I always seem to have seen 4EPB’s and 4SUB’s running over those bridges when I was in London back in those days. Along, of course with 4VEP’s, CIG’s and many other units. But all long gone now, but thankfully these lovely photo’s have been posted so the memories can live on a little longer. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold daveyb Posted June 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) The Thames photos are a wonderful record of how the skyline has changed, too. Warehouses not yet converted or demolished, low-rise development - even the churches are visible and the LWT building looks tall (I'll bet any number of the tall towers visible have been replaced), comms antennae on the MoD, how dirty the MoD, Horse Guards and Shell Mex House buildings are prior to refurbishment, how busy the Thames is with commercial moorings still... some really evocative images, thank you. Edited June 1, 2019 by daveyb Spelling... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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