johnofwessex Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Rather than DRL's my prescription for better driving in to issue the Police with RPG's 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, johnofwessex said: Rather than DRL's my prescription for better driving in to issue the Police with RPG's I've always said that instead of speed cameras etc at blackspots you have snipers, you don't know what day they're there but the threat is enough to work. Anyone that ignores that needs removing from the gene pool anyway. 3 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2019 58 minutes ago, chris p bacon said: I've always said that instead of speed cameras etc at blackspots you have snipers, you don't know what day they're there but the threat is enough to work. Anyone that ignores that needs removing from the gene pool anyway. The problem with that is that you've then got a car going along at high speed with no driver. What you really need is a big pit and a flipper like they used to have on robot wars... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nick C said: The problem with that is that you've then got a car going along at high speed with no driver. I see what you mean.....maybe the RPG is a better option as it takes out the car as well.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 Here's one from Belgium. I suspect this lady (who survived), won't be making this stupid mistake of changing lanes suddenly and going around the rear of a truck blindly ever again. Probably thought it was a safe move, BECAUSE she didn't cut in front of it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The Germans have a habit of doing similar manoeuvres but the Belgian motorways are by far the worse in northern Europe. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2019 This was more than five years ago. The driver spent several months in hospital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Surprised it was as short as that! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted October 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2019 Props to the truck driver for shunting the wreckage to the kerb to help with the inevitable cleanup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Lucky the car was a left hooker. Had that been a UK car the driver would have been mashed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The simple way to improve everyones driving is remove airbags, seatbelts, abs, esp and everything else safety related. Then fit the steering wheel with a large pointed metal spike. Driving standards would then improve dramatically, especially after the first couple of weeks! Cheers Mark 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 59 minutes ago, Baby Deltic said: Lucky the car was a left hooker. Had that been a UK car the driver would have been mashed. M'yes, but a right hooker might have given the driver a chance of seeing the stationary/slow moving traffic and moving back over before hitting the queued truck. More to the point - it was a good job there wasn't a passenger in the front. Bottom line - too fast, too close to the vehicle in front and very, very lucky to be alive after that smash. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 12 hours ago, scruff said: The simple way to improve everyones driving is remove airbags, seatbelts, abs, esp and everything else safety related. Then fit the steering wheel with a large pointed metal spike. Driving standards would then improve dramatically, especially after the first couple of weeks! Doubt it, the nutters would still drive like nutters which would lead to the safe drivers having accidents they wouldn't have had trying to avoid them and killing them off leaving just the nutters around... Seriously, though, that's a daft argument... As an aside, what is the percentage of serious accidents per number of cars now and, say, 50 odd years ago when i started driving? Do the stats back up the argument that it is more dangerous now? Or was it as i remember, that there were still plenty of serious accidents back then? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted October 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2019 Serious injuries much less, but that's due to crumple zones, seat belts and air bags... Remember your car is my crumple zone, i've a steel chassis to crumple your car. Hence an old type landrover is the most likely to walk away from. (Also we generaly don't drive at lunatic speeds..) 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Unless the vehicle hitting you goes over the chassis in which case you are far more vulnerable than I am, even in a head on my crumple zone and airbags will reduce my injuries as it slows the impact whereas you will have your insides trying to get out due to the sudden stop... Consensus on Pistonheads seem to be you will be ok in a head on where the chassis will take the brunt of any impact but whatever you do don't roll one! https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=91&t=1086020 Tell you what, I'll keep my modern car for day to day work, as, as you said, it reduces the chances of me getting a serious injury, you can keep your landie, and let's both hope that neither of us has to test out the theory!! BTW it was a serious question, I was asking about accidents, though, not injuries... You'd have thought that with so many more vehicles around we'd have more serious crashes but I'm not so sure that as a percentage they are as high now as they used to be? Edited October 31, 2019 by Hobby 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2019 14 hours ago, scruff said: The simple way to improve everyones driving is remove airbags, seatbelts, abs, esp and everything else safety related. Then fit the steering wheel with a large pointed metal spike. Driving standards would then improve dramatically, especially after the first couple of weeks! Cheers Mark Many of the cars driven without insurance dont have MoT's and often the drivers don't use seatbelts either so that wouldn't discourage them anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted October 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2019 The spike in the steering wheel thing would deter (most) drivers for a while, until they got used to it being there. I don't agree with the idea that extra safety equipment makes people more reckless though, although there are doubtless exceptions. I think we've all got an instinctive dislike of the idea of crashing, so most won't take deliberate risks (which is a bit different from engaging in risky behaviour you think is safe). Like a lot of things the majority of problems are caused by a minority of drivers who don't follow the type of thinking most of us do, even though some accidents happen only involving the sensible (no-one's perfect). This causes problems with tackling the issues, especially where measures are concerned that are only likely to have an effect on those whose behaviour you need to alter the least. Ones that impact everyone aren't much better either, imposing stuff on all to deal with a few is a surefire way to generate resentment and contempt for the law. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 3, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Sadly took a wrong turning and ended up on the Motorway. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-50281989#_=_ 1903 car, driver killed and passenger badly hurt. Edited November 3, 2019 by PhilJ W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted November 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 29/10/2019 at 23:23, raymw said: wait and see, if you really have no idea. Nope, none the wiser. Are you referring to post election day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted November 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2019 For a change - Good driving rather than bad. Not so good for the child care centre operator! News item https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/horrific-flashbacks-parents-of-toddlers-who-escaped-childcare-centre-pursue-legal-action-20191104-p537cp.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Well this might not be new to you, but it's something I've not seen before. When cycling home from the shops this morning at about 8.45, I decided to vary my route so as to have a go on the usual fun and games outside the local primary school. As expected, there were the customary 6 or 7 enormocars parked on the yellow zigzags on the school side of the road plus two on the white pedestrian crossing zigzags which start where the yellow ones finish, but strangely not one vehicle parked on the opposite zigzags. However, what there was instead was two cars double parked alongside those on the yellow zigzags, both with their drivers holding doors open to discharge their offspring, this process stopping passing traffic on account of the double parking and open doors taking up all but a yard or so of the width of the road ... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnofwessex Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 https://www.greenparty.org.uk/files/reports/2007/London Lawless Roads Report - summer 2007.pdf Interesting report by Jenny Jones MLA on road policing and safety 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Not wishing to be critical of the JJenny Jones article, because that could become political, but I think it could be less biased. Just one example Quote The lack of priority given to road crime is demonstrated by the current reluctance of the police to prosecute drivers who injure cyclists or pedestrians, in the absence of independent witnessesiii. If there is no witness, who can the police bring charges against, the driver or the pedestrian/cyclist who was not paying attention? If there is evidence, e.g. drug or alcohol involvement that can be independently verified, then I expect the guilty party/parties would be investigated. The following explains, (from https://www.police.uk/information-and-advice/court-service/the-process/ ) Quote The Crown Prosecution Service advises the police on cases for possible prosecution and reviews cases submitted by the police. They determine what defendants should be charged with in more serious or complex cases. Their decision whether or not to prosecute is based on two tests; whether there is enough evidence to prove the case, and whether it is in the public interest to bring the case to court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold StuAllen Posted November 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 hours ago, johnofwessex said: https://www.greenparty.org.uk/files/reports/2007/London Lawless Roads Report - summer 2007.pdf Interesting report by Jenny Jones MLA on road policing and safety Think it would be more interesting if there was an updated version of the report covering the last 12 years since the original report was published to see if things have got better or worse. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted November 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2019 In Australia, an ongoing investigation into a fatality, where it is suspected that the driver was trying to retrieve his hat! https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/grandfather-fatally-hit-on-freeway-may-have-been-trying-to-retrieve-hat-20191115-p53b30.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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