RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted August 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2017 Looks black in the print version too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CloggyDog Posted August 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Hello Just been looking at the September issue of Hornby Magazine, and I see that in the inside back cover there is a photo of the 1st decorated sample of 08173. Now I have the digital issue, but it looks like to me that it has a black cab roof, would this be correct? Has anyone seen other decorated samples of the next batch of 08s? Thanks SEEYA ANT 08173 was withdrawn around mid/late 1978, but Polmadie depot retained it in working order as their depot pilot and unofficially renumbered it PO1, in which guise it lasted until around 1984. Now, 08 cab roofs get grubby very quickly, but https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3914/14523640922_934946035f_b.jpg shows it as PO1 in 1982 with a very blue roof (which could, of course, have been repainted since withdrawal) In 1984, it got reinstated as 08173 (with mis-matched numbers!), https://flic.kr/p/q5xshd and https://flic.kr/p/9JCy5X by which time the cab roof was grubby to the point of being black-ish. Then ran until the late 80s before being withdrawn, condemned and scrapped. Haven't been able to track down a pic of it pre-PO1 though... The linked pics also neatly show the lack of bonnet door grabs Edited August 11, 2017 by CloggyDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I thought that we'd covered the issue, several pages back? [i'll get me coat]. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopar Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Still no idea what I'm going to do with this, but it looks lovely on the shelf in the study. Recently fitted with two modelu figures, painted with Games Workshop paints. 20170704_214134.jpg Those figures are very nice indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Those figures are excellent David. I've got some but I'm struggling to get the faces to be convincing. Any tips? John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David41283 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Those figures are excellent David. I've got some but I'm struggling to get the faces to be convincing. Any tips? John Cheers, my paints and techniques come from painting Games Workshop figures when I want a change from railways. Games Workshop produce several flesh tones and shade washes, the skin on these were: Base coat of "Cadian Felshtone", then a shading wash of "Reikland Fleshshade", initial highlights with Cadian Fleshtone again, and a final highlight on the most prominent features with "Kislev Flesh" which is a much paler skin tone. If you don't want to buy the specific paints you could just use one flesh colour, use thinned tan brown for the wash, then mix in a little white for the final highlight. Hope that helps. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 The latest variants of the Dapol 08 are due to land with us tomorrow Priced at £199.50 each 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Now available: http://www.trains4u.com/c/444/Diesel-Electric-Locomotives 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 The latest variants of the Dapol 08 are due to land with us tomorrow Priced at £199.50 each Are they a different body tooling to the first one Gareth, without hinges on the access doors..? I'd like to do this one in 7mm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I'm afraid they are the same, early, hinged-door type. (You could always get the scalpel out! ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I assume Dapol know what they are doing with the red buffer shanks on the above loco The TOPS version has yellow shanks 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I assume Dapol know what they are doing with the red buffer shanks on the above loco The TOPS version has yellow shanks 08-2.JPG I'm afraid they are the same, early, hinged-door type. (You could always get the scalpel out! ) 08.JPG And the Black roof....... Ok, I'm outta here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) I wud never ass-u-me anything about Dapol and their interpretations of the prototype LOL! I note that the weird brass/PB bushes are now painted in the same colour as the cranks and coupling rods, shame that they werent completely removed. TBF to Dapol, Ive seen photos of replacement buffer assys. in different colours, so it is possible on certain prototypes, if correct, well done Dapol, a nice, well observed (?) touch. George Dent in Model Rail, did a nice job of removing equip. boxes, removing door hinges etc etc. on the Dapol 08. Altho he missed adding, iirc, guard irons etc, he turned out a cracking model nevertheless. Atvb CME Edited September 20, 2017 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted September 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2017 I thought I read previously they are bringing out a version without hinges in due course but this was just a quick rerun as the first batch sold well? On a different note the much discussed black bonnet top has gone from the green with stripes version I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I note that the weird brass/PB bushes are now painted in the same colour as the cranks and coupling rods, shame that they werent completely removed. CME enlarging the photos of the latest 08s, on here and on various other online retailers pages it looks as though the brass bushes have been removed http://www.hattons.co.uk/259392/Dapol_7D_008_011U_Class_08_shunter_in_BR_blue_without_ladder_unnumbered/StockDetail.aspxGood news! Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) I thought I read previously they are bringing out a version without hinges in due course but this was just a quick rerun as the first batch sold well? On a different note the much discussed black bonnet top has gone from the green with stripes version I believe. IIRC the later variant was mentioned....time will tell, AFAICT only one 08 with GFYE/WS had a black roof, so that change should help Dapol sell more/give the GFYE 08s have wider appeal... enlarging the photos of the latest 08s, on here and on various other online retailers pages it looks as though the brass bushes have been removed http://www.hattons.co.uk/259392/Dapol_7D_008_011U_Class_08_shunter_in_BR_blue_without_ladder_unnumbered/StockDetail.aspx Good news! Jon Hi Jon, I cant tell from a mobile device, the cranks still look quite thick, but if the bushings are gone thats great news for purchasers of later models. Atvb CME Edited September 20, 2017 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Finally got pictures up of my 08 with wipers by Giles. Not quote brave enough to glue the blades to the windows though... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 The more I see of the 08 the more impressed I am and the more I want one, having driven several they really are full of character and Dapol have captured this so well in my view. I've asked a mate for his copy of Model Rail with the detailing article so there's no excuse now, it looks like I need to bite the bullet, buy one and remove the door hinges to do the WR example I 'need'! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 IIRC the later variant was mentioned....time will tell, AFAICT only one 08 with GFYE/WS had a black roof, so that change should help Dapol sell more/give the GFYE 08s have wider appeal... Hi Jon, I cant tell from a mobile device, the cranks still look quite thick, but if the bushings are gone thats great news for purchasers of later models. Atvb CME Hi, I had a good look at them at Telford and can confirm the brass washers have gone. Typical as I took mine off ..... Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Hi, I had a good look at them at Telford and can confirm the brass washers have gone. Typical as I took mine off ..... Martyn. That's errr...... $ods law, likewise, mine to do with the help of a nice little device Martyn.... Can you just remind me Martyn, did you have to cut down the shafts afterwards, if so cutting disc or cutting saw, on or off of the loco? Kindest regards, CME Edited September 22, 2017 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Hi CME, Regarding the cutting of the axles, I used a piercing saw as the axles are quite hard and I thought that if I used a cutting disc the axles might heat up and cause a problem with the bearings or final drive gear. I still need to weather mine, but I have a 101 other jobs on my plate at the moment. Still better to be busy than bored. Regards, Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Hi CME, Regarding the cutting of the axles, I used a piercing saw as the axles are quite hard and I thought that if I used a cutting disc the axles might heat up and cause a problem with the bearings or final drive gear. I still need to weather mine, but I have a 101 other jobs on my plate at the moment. Still better to be busy than bored. Regards, Martyn. Hi Martyn, Thanks. Good advice! Likewise, working my way through painting and weathering wagons etc. It all keeps the grey cells active! Kindest regards, CME. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I did not bother to alter the cranks etc, but the brass was cleaned with solvent and brass black(copper carbonate) was added to blacken the brass, cleaned again and oiled, removes to brass effect! Very reliable model indeed, looking forward to the 3F next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) I did not bother to alter the cranks etc, but the brass was cleaned with solvent and brass black(copper carbonate) was added to blacken the brass, cleaned again and oiled, removes to brass effect! Very reliable model indeed, looking forward to the 3F next week.It wasn't so much the look of those brass spacers that bugged me, but how far the quartering was out. I have looked at a few 08's since then and they're all the same, all out by a mile. So that was the main reason I removed the cranks. Martyn. Edited September 27, 2017 by 3 link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Well, the one I have seems correct on quartering, it was the first thing checked from the box. Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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