RMweb Premium cornelius Posted May 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2016 If I may make an observation... The nameplate style issued in the pre-production artwork, differs from the 'Peckett nameplate' style and font advertised by Narrow Planet Art-work: https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/R3427_3196993_Qty1_cat.jpg Nameplates: https://narrowplanet.myshopify.com/collections/nameplate-styles/products/npp-109 I plan on purchasing a Peckett as a donor for a fictional W4 loco (No 657 "Black Water"), so naturally I would have to change its name hence I noticed the style difference; I intend to re-name the donor loco, keeping the same style nameplates for the replacements as on the original model. Is the style issued on Hornby's Art-Work correct? Regards, Matt 'BEAR' at the Sittingbourne & Kelmsley Light Railway has another style of nameplate: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SKLR_Bear.JPG So either the style varied over time or plates were fitted or replaced by the owners. We can always draw up artwork to match a specific photo if required. (Stephen, Narrow Planet) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 'BEAR' at the Sittingbourne & Kelmsley Light Railway has another style of nameplate: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SKLR_Bear.JPG So either the style varied over time or plates were fitted or replaced by the owners. We can always draw up artwork to match a specific photo if required. (Stephen, Narrow Planet) The style certainly changed over the years (not altogether surprising as styles and tastes change in typography as much as anything else). Compare the Peckett official pictures below: http://www.martynbane.co.uk/peckett/slides/page62.html http://www.martynbane.co.uk/peckett/slides/page67.html and also http://www.martynbane.co.uk/peckett/slides/page78.html Adam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The style certainly changed over the years (not altogether surprising as styles and tastes change in typography as much as anything else). Compare the Peckett official pictures below: http://www.martynbane.co.uk/peckett/slides/page62.html http://www.martynbane.co.uk/peckett/slides/page67.html and also http://www.martynbane.co.uk/peckett/slides/page78.html Adam What is the date of that catalogue, please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 What is the date of that catalogue, please? There's no date quoted, but inter-war, I would think, probably the 1920s. Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) Well I've found a stock box so come on Hornby Sold on the Huntley Palmer shop, I was looking for a square low tin but the eBay ones are rather more, as they're all 'rare' Edited May 18, 2016 by PaulRhB 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Thanks! Making wheels is well beyond my capabilities. Regards Fair enough. That said, if you are modelling in P4 there are area groups all over and within the groups there are members who could either do the job for you or teach you how. There are wheels in the Gibson catalogue that are close enough, I'm looking at the Black Hawthorn one as a possible replacement but will wait until I've got my Pecketts before getting placing the order. Yes they are a tad undersized by about 0.75mm (?) in diameter but I'm not fussed about that as we're talking about an industrial engine, not an mainline express. Nil desperandum! Cheers, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D5541 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 A short but pointless note while I'm on bit of a tea break (the joys of working nights!!) Just read an email from Hornby and apparently the Huntley & Palmer Peckett is their 2nd most pre-ordered loco this month :-) Wonder how many more of the other 2 need to be ordered to get them into the top 5... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Fair enough. That said, if you are modelling in P4 there are area groups all over and within the groups there are members who could either do the job for you or teach you how. There are wheels in the Gibson catalogue that are close enough, I'm looking at the Black Hawthorn one as a possible replacement but will wait until I've got my Pecketts before getting placing the order. Yes they are a tad undersized by about 0.75mm (?) in diameter but I'm not fussed about that as we're talking about an industrial engine, not an mainline express. Nil desperandum! Cheers, David Or you could try more practical gauge-scale combinations, like EM or OO. I'll get my coat .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted May 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2016 There are wheels in the Gibson catalogue that are close enough, I'm looking at the Black Hawthorn one as a possible replacement but will wait until I've got my Pecketts before getting placing the order. Yes they are a tad undersized by about 0.75mm (?) in diameter but I'm not fussed about that as we're talking about an industrial engine, not an mainline express. Nil desperandum!Or you could try more practical gauge-scale combinations, like EM or OO. Yes, they are a tad undersized, ... but you shouldn't be fussed about that ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Fair enough. That said, if you are modelling in P4 there are area groups all over and within the groups there are members who could either do the job for you or teach you how. There are wheels in the Gibson catalogue that are close enough, I'm looking at the Black Hawthorn one as a possible replacement but will wait until I've got my Pecketts before getting placing the order. Yes they are a tad undersized by about 0.75mm (?) in diameter but I'm not fussed about that as we're talking about an industrial engine, not an mainline express. Nil desperandum! Cheers, David Patronising garbage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ianmaccormac Posted May 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2016 Does the Scalefour society sponsor manufacturers i.e. Colin at AGW, to develop a new wheel for P4 standards meeting half the development costs like the Scale 7 Group do with David White at Slaters'? Would it help if they did? Cheers Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Does the Scalefour society sponsor manufacturers i.e. Colin at AGW, to develop a new wheel for P4 standards meeting half the development costs like the Scale 7 Group do with David White at Slaters'? Would it help if they did? I don't think they've done this for many years. if they ever did. I joined back in 1990, and can't remember new designs of driving wheels being sponsored. I suppose that would be a matter for the Committee to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Phew! Glad that wasn't addressed to me! I'd never patronise anyone. You do know what I mean by the word "patronise"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Or you could try more practical gauge-scale combinations, like EM or OO. I'll get my coat .... Surely your man will get your coat for you! Drops 'arf-a-brick and legs it for the distant horizon...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Phew! Glad that wasn't addressed to me! I'd never patronise anyone. You do know what I mean by the word "patronise"? People send you money through the Internet? Oh, that's "patreon".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Patronising garbage! Really? I did not criticise or speak down to you, I merely made what I hoped would be some helpful suggestions. The number of modellers who can 'do it all' is very thin on the ground and I would not list myself among their numbers which is why I will probably resort to what some might regard as a bodge in order to get a working model in the gauge of my choice. If you find that offensive then please accept my apologies and I'll trouble you no more. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Those little tank engines look so attractive! I don't suppose they ever ventured down to the South-East coast? ;] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Given the recent discussion I'm tempted to use the 'spoiler' BBCode helpfully pointed out recently. (I can't remember which thread it was in, but EDIT: F1 thank you, it's a neat feature.) Perhaps also useful for aside or off-topic observations, (and no, 'snide' is not an anagram from 'aside'). Perhaps each new announcement thread should have a special section reserved for re-wheeling to EM or P4? I like this feature. Thanks to 57xx. Edited May 19, 2016 by Ozexpatriate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buhar Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I don't think they've done this for many years. if they ever did. I joined back in 1990, and can't remember new designs of driving wheels being sponsored. I suppose that would be a matter for the Committee to discuss. I think you'll find that'll be an ecumenical matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I think you'll find that'll be an ecumenical matter. Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Those little tank engines look so attractive! I don't suppose they ever ventured down to the South-East coast? ;] If there were any industrial users there, it would be a good bet to say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Those little tank engines look so attractive! I don't suppose they ever ventured down to the South-East coast? ;] They certainly worked in Kent at the cement works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 If there were any industrial users there, it would be a good bet to say yes. They certainly worked in Kent at the cement works. Ooo now that is intriguing, if an appropriate liveried one comes out I will be very tempted, my visa debit will be less grateful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Ooo now that is intriguing, if an appropriate liveried one comes out I will be very tempted, my visa debit will be less grateful. The postage stamp version. http://plumbloco.smugmug.com/keyword/Purfleet/i-cCp9hdW/A 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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