PenrithBeacon Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 When did the MSC change from an all black livery to that nice shade of grey? Or was it the other way around? My recollection is of all MSC locos in an overall black. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 The light grey was a post war livery (clearly, as it was applied to the Austeritirs). I don't know how widely applied it was, most of the locos I recall were either black or a very dark grey. Here's one of the preserved Hudswell Clarke long tanks wearing the light grey http://madannie.smugmug.com/Trains/Middleton-Railway/i-6TMKv8F . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Anyone got hold of the H&P one yet? More pertinently, has any retailer got hold of the H&P one yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 More pertinently, has any retailer got hold of the H&P one yet? 'Fraid not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Now I managed to go into Melbourne city Australia today, I dropped into what are almost the last 2 shops left. One had had the Peckett in the last week and the comment was "we could have sold a heap and their allocation had been cut". I then dropped into the other who told me that they had not received any. They were also not impressed that I had told them that some retailers had received some! So I would suggest that every one may be disappointed that the allocations may be cut to spread the stock further! I have not checked the other 2 shops that are relatively close to see if they had any stock. So yes some made it to Australia but not in large volumes! Edited December 16, 2016 by DougN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 If I ordered mine correctly should be with me tomorrow. According to a email I have just received. Either that or I'm getting a surprise! :-) What version and where did you order it from? I have just phoned the shop where my Dodo is ordered and have just been told that they were told by Hornby, only yesterday, that they wouldn't be delivered until some unspecified date in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Anyone got hold of the H&P one yet? Had an e-mail that mine is arriving this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Looking at the tracking on Interlink Express mine is currently getting a conducted tour of Folkestone with expected delivery in I hour 45 minutes. Come in delivery no. 66 Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 It puzzles me how every year there are models supposedly being released in time for Christmas which are down to the wires or even miss Christmas all together. Do manufacturers get caught unawares by Christmas? Does it creep up on them deceitfully hiding until it's too late to plan getting a product to this country in time to sell it to people who want it for Christmas presents? This isn't the first time; I remember the farce that was the release of the Bachmann class 37 where it to all intents and purposes missed Christmas, turning up only on Christmas eve long after sane people buying Christmas presents made other arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2016 It puzzles me how every year there are models supposedly being released in time for Christmas which are down to the wires or even miss Christmas all together. Do manufacturers get caught unawares by Christmas? Does it creep up on them deceitfully hiding until it's too late to plan getting a product to this country in time to sell it to people who want it for Christmas presents? This isn't the first time; I remember the farce that was the release of the Bachmann class 37 where it to all intents and purposes missed Christmas, turning up only on Christmas eve long after sane people buying Christmas presents made other arrangements. You can bet your last penny that Hornby / Bachmann, etc., planned to have the models in question available well in time for Christmas - they'd have to be mad / suicidal not to have done so. That said, if the product is made in China, then it is delivered to a timetable dictated by the Chinese - and there's little that Hornby / Bachmann, etc. can do about it. We now learn that delivery programmes are not even within the control of the Chinese factory managers - if most of your workforce decides to depart early on the annual mass migration that is the Chinese New Year, there's little that can be done. In an ecomomy where demand for skilled labour exceeds supply, the factories cannot even be certain that their workforce will return in its entirity after the holiday. We surely all know this by now, so why does the late delivery of products exercise us so? Rather, let's chill out, enjoy Christmas / New Year, and look forward to the arrival of our belated goodies to brighten the anti-claimax that is the early months of the New Year. Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Two gorgeous beauties just arrived, apologies for rather rough picture quality: Locos now running-in before dcc fitting, Keith 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) I have the H&P just arrived! It stunning. Must be the model of the year! Hi Ruston I bought mine from Hornby them selfs when first announced Edited December 16, 2016 by farren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Two gorgeous beauties just arrived, apologies for rather rough picture quality: Peckett&Holden-01.jpg Locos now running-in before dcc fitting, Keith That actually makes it look bigger than I was expecting. Looking forward to mine arriving! Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Crumbs I've got pecketts in the attic. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Anyone know of the status of Dodo from Hattons? I hate how preorders dont take payment until the thing is shipped. Makes me so unsure about the validity of the order as without payment, they have no obligation to actually sell anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 ... turning up only on Christmas eve long after sane people buying Christmas presents made other arrangements. Forgive me, but I think you have that wrong. Surely no sane person does any Christmas shopping until Christmas Eve? Isn't that what Christmas Eve is for? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) We surely all know this by now, so why does the late delivery of products exercise us so? Maybe wishful thinking, in that all that exercise will burn off those additional Christmas calories? Is it here yet? Is it here yet? Is it here yet? Is it here yet? Is it here yet? Is it here yet? ad infinitum (or ad nauseam if you prefer). Edited December 16, 2016 by Porcy Mane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Well I never When it comes to haulage, this little Peckett takes the biscuit, and the dinner table too !!! I think today I am looking at model of the year, but that's a tough collection to pick from given this years releases, but for looks, weight, pickups & haulage this is a good one. I reckon it might take 9, but after that it's a struggle.. but hey 8 is easy ! Found it stops on a double slip at slow speed but it takes my insulfrogs just fine. Edited December 16, 2016 by adb968008 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Well I never When it comes to haulage, this little Peckett takes the biscuit, and the dinner table too !!! Looks like it wouldn't be out of place on a Mountain Railway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 That's the motive power for HS2 sorted then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Looks like it wouldn't be out of place on a Mountain Railway It's climbing 25cm / 10inch climb in 180cm / 6ft .. the domain of diesels and European stuff only.The peckett took 2 from a standing start... by comparison most Hornby / Bachmann steam locos of any size (A1/Brit/Jubilee/Black5 etc can take 3 max 4, Brawa pt31 2-8-2 will take 8 though ;-) Edited December 16, 2016 by adb968008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 It's climbing 25cm / 10inch climb in 180cm / 6ft .. the domain of diesels and European stuff only. The peckett took 2 from a standing start... by comparison most Hornby / Bachmann steam locos of any size (A1/Brit/Jubilee/Black5 etc can take 3 max 4). Has it been tested for performance or recreational drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just wondering is it only the H&P that's that's being released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickC Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) I get the impression that a small number of H&P unexpectedly arrived in the shipment of B12s so Hornby have used them to fulfil some of their own pre-orders. Up until last night on Hornby's website all 3 Pecketts were showing Pre-Order and an expected date of 16/12/16 (i.e. today). Today they are still showing as Pre-Order but with no date. So either they have arrived and are just about to be unpacked and shipping started, or the container hasn't arrived and thus Hornby now have no idea where it is or when it will arrive. Only time will tell.. Edit 16:21 - According to today's published Engine Shed, the Pecketts have arrived. Edited December 16, 2016 by NickC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Cat Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Today's entry in Hornby's Engine Shed blog has a section headed, "The B12 and Pecketts have arrived!" that goes on to say, "the much loved Pecketts have just arrived in time for Christmas." Which suggests all have arrived. They only have a photo of the H&P one though. Edited December 16, 2016 by Orange Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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