RMweb Gold 4630 Posted February 24, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) . Edited November 15, 2016 by 4630 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 24, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) On time at 36E and it looked superb. and then this appeared! Roll on tomorrow. Phil Edited February 24, 2016 by Mallard60022 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 24, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2016 That's a VERY slow time from Kings X to Peterborough. No real chance of getting to Tallington after seeing it at Peterborough, or Holme to Peterborough either. Tallington Crossing has been closed for months and few expect it to open again, so you can park there.. unlike Holme. Peterborough platform 4 is pretty much as inaccessible as can be, there are no worthwhile viewpoints at Crescent Bridge or Spital Bridge. Sounds like "local knowledge" around the Town Bridge area is called for The average speed on nett time looks to be c.45mph which means it will have to spend a lot of time running much faster in order to keep time. So not exactly a 'slow' timing for an engine which has barely run-in and which is facing considerable pathing problems on an ECML weekday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Pike Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Lucky and managed to catch her three times this morning. First at Botany Bay Then in full steam heading up Gamston Bank. Finally at Cromwell LC. It was amazing how many people where out, there must have been easily 75 at Gamston Bank, even a guy with a drone. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted February 24, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2016 Average speed KGX to York, excluding stops, is 48mph. Over parts of the line she will match the 225 and HST sets for timing. An HST or 225 is scheduled to average just under 87mph for the same journey. KGX to Peterborough net time (ex stops) is 100 minutes for 76.25 miles or an average of just under 46mph. Some of the scheduled running is at just shy of 70mph though for the section from Finsbury Park to Ally Pally, I guess she'll drop time there. Likewise Grantham to Claypole Loop which shows an average speed of 78mph on published times. As a comparison the AA Route planner reckons driving on clear roads from Kings Cross station to Peterborough station is 103 minutes. And having said that published times for a 225 set in places suggest averages of as much as 170mph. All times and distances are taken from Real Time Trains so all my calculations are subject to the usual disclaimer E&OE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Ok, the crossing I am thinking of is clearly the one you describe as Lolham Crossing - on a minor road off the A1143. I always see it from the S, or more correctly DON'T see it as it is closed as you describe. I used to go that way from Peterborough to Obthorpe and Kate's Bridge. 1604 KX to Peterborough and points N, left 6L - presumably to miss Flying Scotsmsn at Finsbury Park 103 minutes from Kings X to Peterborough would be exceptional under any road conditions! Probably do-able if everything was clear but not otherwise. Edited February 24, 2016 by rockershovel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 24, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2016 There are quite often a lot of people at Gamston (Eaton Crossing) and most of them drone.......on and on and on ......................... already left Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 60103 looked a picture in the sunshine at Camden Road Junction, on the webcam this afternoon. http://railcam.uk/site/ I hope everything goes well for tomorrow's run to York. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2016 Scotsman on BBC1 now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Watched the ITV coverage. Apart from the usual confusion between train and locomotive I thought they did a very good job. Emphasis was on the historical importance of having the loco back in service. The cost was mentioned but not in an adverse manner. The train did look impressive gently pulling away dead on time. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblestripe Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 She looks terrific, hope she runs as well as she looks. The attention on the National TV News, top trending topic on Twitter and all over other social media, she's quite the "Grande Dame". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn1 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 60103 looked a picture in the sunshine at Camden Road Junction, on the webcam this afternoon. http://railcam.uk/site/ I hope everything goes well for tomorrow's run to York. Don't you just love this forum - thanks for introducing me to another website to while away the hours when I should be modelling / working! As others have said I heard some positive media reports about 60103 this morning - the BBC did say that she was being limited to 45mph today for 'safety reasons', I understood that the time taken to get to York is because the train will be looped several times to allow ECML trains to pass - perhaps it's a combination of both. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2016 Not really limited to 45 as such as that is more the overall average speed for the distance. I'm sure it will stretch its legs where appropriate especially as it is now 20 minutes down. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 http://news.sky.com/story/1648376/trespassers-stop-flying-scotsman-in-its-tracks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2016 15 minute stand near St Neots due to the idiots trespassing. A steam engine, and a celebrity at that - no surprise unfortunately, they do bring the "I can go anywhere" types out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2016 Same with most things, an idiotic few spoil things for the many. And then there are complaints about the nanny state because we have to use the lowest common denominator to protect these people with half a brain cell each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2016 https://twitter.com/BBCJamesA/status/702781075060367360 Standing with back to traffic no doubt, possibly straining for that extra inch or two - but never fear, there's a guy with a "trains bounce off me" HV on. <shakes head> 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2016 Same with most things, an idiotic few spoil things for the many. And then there are complaints about the nanny state because we have to use the lowest common denominator to protect these people with half a brain cell each. Of course there are complaints about the nanny state, and its these idiots who should be on the receiving end of them, seeing as they're the root cause. What are they even hoping to achieve? I can understand (but don't at all condone) someone on the wrong side of the fence at the top of an embankment but you won't even get a good view from that close, not to mention that it would scare the hell out of me to be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibuchan Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I can see this incident being the main evidence, to mark the end of weekday, mainline heritage tours. To have to shut down the ECML at 9am due to the amount of trespassers walking along the cess next to a 100mph+ mainline, is just not on. It's unfortunate should it come to this but It's going to cause loads of changes. Alistair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2016 I can see this incident being the main evidence, to mark the end of weekday, mainline heritage tours. To have to shut down the ECML at 9am due to the amount of trespassers walking along the cess next to a 100mph+ mainline, is just not on. It's unfortunate should it come to this but It's going to cause loads of changes. Only if it happens every time there is a tour, if it isn't something that happens regularly then that would be a very disproportionate over-reaction. A much better response would be to to throw the book at the trespassers hard enough to scare off anyone else with the same idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetmorgan Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Live updates of the journey on the BBC news website http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-35649676 Whilst very exciting that the old girl is back on the track, hitched up her skirt and showing us her legs...not sure it needs live updates of the trip!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2016 Glad to see she is on her way again, but now 22 down at Claypole Loop having made back 16 minutes at Stoke Junction (she was due to be held there for 15 minutes). I get exactly the same problem of folk who 'know better' when I have my motor rallying hat on - had it last weekend with spectators who had stood in a specific spot 'for years without being hit'. Marshals with me moved them, first few cars came through and bingo, one went off the track exactly where they had been standing. Of course there is the 'rally cars bounce off me' hivis tabard available for them (and photographers) as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2016 I had a visit by a senior manager and someone from the RAIL a couple of years ago, and we got onto the problem of puffer nutters tresspassing. I suggested that instead of cautioning for them, we should actually run faster at them, on the basis that they wouldn't do it again, and maybe the message would get about. The look on the managers face was priceless, and whats more he thought that was the way I already dealt with these sort of incidents, it took me quite a while to reassure him that I didn't...... What is it that these half-wit nutters? Do they think every other train has been stopped for the kettle? One hopes the BTP will prosocute them, and that the cost for the delays are added to the court costs that they pay.... Andy G 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2016 https://twitter.com/BBCJamesA/status/702781075060367360 Clipboard01.jpg Standing with back to traffic no doubt, possibly straining for that extra inch or two - but never fear, there's a guy with a "trains bounce off me" HV on. <shakes head> You think you've seen it all, then some people take stupidity to a whole new level. What on earth could they have been thinking that it was ok to take a stroll on the railway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted February 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2016 Several helicopters flying close to the train too. On a more positive note, all the coverage on the news does show plenty of people are still interested in railways. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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