Flying Scotsman trip cancelled

[Mallard60022]

Ah, I know where I'll overtake the service now on the way home despite it having an hour head start on me. Must remember to change sides on the train and maybe wait 10-15 minutes at my destination to watch a non stop-pass on the up fast if the traction is confirmed.

 

Timed, according to my source, for 75mph running too, that's intriguing.

 

The service dropped 45 minutes this morning on the down run in my home area too, but made up 26 of those. Shown as 95mph running so I guess it was heritage diesel on that leg.

 

EDIT - TheSignalEngineer has linked to the RTT page I was looking at ....

Twer diseasels.

Seeing it pass at around 75 will be brief but visually exciting I should think.

P

[Dunsignalling]

They still are. The only difference is the specialist vehicle is now a laser travelling at close to line speed rather than a converted coal wagon or cattle truck with a couple of black macs in it armed with tape measures and a long stick.

 

Two steam locos that I know of have struck bridges after tamping and lining work, so it's not a negligible risk.

The last one I saw was a converted AB van with a wondrous array of lasers poking out of a collar around the sides and roof - probably a museum piece by now.

[keefer]

have seen a pic of one of the mk3 RTC lab coaches with polystyrene blocks attached at crucial areas of the bodyside - if the blocks end up with chunks out of them, then they've found a clearance issue!

 

EDIT: found it - it was Lab 15 'Argus': http://www.traintesting.com/Lab%2015%20Argus.htm  (first pic)

[LNER4479]

I understand from one of my spies in the area that the return times through Newcastle were given out on the local radio

 

And don't tell anyone I told you but pass Ranskill Loop 17/18, Retford stn 17.24 - 17.39

 

 

This one?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U59843/2016/05/19/advanced

Yikes - looks like we coincide by 3 mins at York on my journey home.

 

Hmm ... I wonder ...?

[Mallard60022]

Gamston Bank for me I think.

Phil

[Mallard60022]

Someone has just posted on FB that the NRM says FS has a 'mechanical problem' and won't be running; is this a leg pull?

 

Confirmed sadly.

Phil

[Richard E]

DRAT!

[LNER4479]

Confirmed visual - just witnessed it depart York - behind 47580 (and that isn't an ex-LMS 'Jinty' in BR livery...)

[Fat Controller]

The last one I saw was a converted AB van with a wondrous array of lasers poking out of a collar around the sides and roof - probably a museum piece by now.

It wasn't converted from a van; it just looked like it. The underframe came from one of the two prototype air-braked Plate wagons (SPA). Here is a link to some photos:-

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=structure+gauging+wagon&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYt8DUvebMAhVRF8AKHTOFAFcQsAQIGw

I have seen a model where the lasers are simulated using LEDs

On a more 'rustic' note, the Redmire branch was checked for clearances for Warrior AFVs using a very large, and carefully shaped, piece of polystyrene foam, fixed to what looked like a Wickham trolley.

[Bomag]

I just past 47580 at Eastfield box waiting for a VEC service to clear, some glum faces except those in dining. The 47 had gained about 11min down stoke bank.

[russ p]

It wasn't converted from a van; it just looked like it. The underframe came from one of the two prototype air-braked Plate wagons (SPA). Here is a link to some photos:-

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=structure+gauging+wagon&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYt8DUvebMAhVRF8AKHTOFAFcQsAQIGw

I have seen a model where the lasers are simulated using LEDs

On a more 'rustic' note, the Redmire branch was checked for clearances for Warrior AFVs using a very large, and carefully shaped, piece of polystyrene foam, fixed to what looked like a Wickham trolley.

 

We also did a practical loading test with an actual warrior and two (for some reason) saloons either side of it . I rode in the saloon and i checked all the bridges and structures on the branch and canopies on thirsk and York stations. This was after the first load of warrior's had clipped a canopy somewhere down south

[Richard E]

I just past 47580 at Eastfield box waiting for a VEC service to clear, some glum faces except those in dining. The 47 had gained about 11min down stoke bank.

I was on the VTEC service that arrived at PBO southbound at 18:48, we passed the 47 at Eastfield box also.It was drifting along at about 5mph at that point.

[Fat Controller]

We also did a practical loading test with an actual warrior and two (for some reason) saloons either side of it . I rode in the saloon and i checked all the bridges and structures on the branch and canopies on thirsk and York stations. This was after the first load of warrior's had clipped a canopy somewhere down south

Tyseley, which had just won an award for the renovation work that had been done on it; some of the canopy valances were discovered wedged on top of the Warriors upon arrival.

[brianusa]

Perhaps now all the excitement will die down.  Every mag I subscribe to has featured this engine and its tours and personally I've been FSed to death!  Now if it had been KGV, I would have been chuffed to death, a preferable way to go than the other!!

 

Brian.

[Dava]

Someone has just posted on FB that the NRM says FS has a 'mechanical problem' and won't be running; is this a leg pull?

 

Confirmed sadly.

Phil

Why am I not surprised? It was entirely predictable that even after the most costly rebuild of a steam loco ever in the UK, 60103 would not be able to provide the reliability expected. Steam Locos of this age just don't.

 

Dava

[Dunsignalling]

Why am I not surprised? It was entirely predictable that even after the most costly rebuild of a steam loco ever in the UK, 60103 would not be able to provide the reliability expected. Steam Locos of this age just don't.

 

Dava

Relatively little of it is "this age" and anything that looked remotely dodgy will have recently been replaced if the bill was anything to go by.

 

John

[Dunsignalling]

It wasn't converted from a van; it just looked like it. The underframe came from one of the two prototype air-braked Plate wagons (SPA). Here is a link to some photos:-

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=structure+gauging+wagon&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYt8DUvebMAhVRF8AKHTOFAFcQsAQIGw

I have seen a model where the lasers are simulated using LEDs

 

Yep, that's the one.

[grahame]

Relatively little of it is "this age" and anything that looked remotely dodgy will have recently been replaced if the bill was anything to go by.

 

But perhaps those bits weren't replaced with anything better and more reliable.

 

G.

[PaulRhB]

It's only the injectors that have failed but it's a matter of how quick they can sort it out. This weekends runs are uncertain as of last night.

[TheSignalEngineer]

It's only the injectors that have failed but it's a matter of how quick they can sort it out. This weekends runs are uncertain as of last night.

NRM reporting on FB that it's fixed

[Zomboid]

Why am I not surprised? It was entirely predictable that even after the most costly rebuild of a steam loco ever in the UK, 60103 would not be able to provide the reliability expected. Steam Locos of this age just don't.

 

Dava

Genuine question - for comparison, how reliable has Tornado been?

[PhilH]

Why am I not surprised? It was entirely predictable that even after the most costly rebuild of a steam loco ever in the UK, 60103 would not be able to provide the reliability expected. Steam Locos of this age just don't.

Dava

Based on what facts?

[PaulRhB]

Genuine question - for comparison, how reliable has Tornado been?

Only going on the last time I talked to one of the DB drivers I know it's very reliable for a steam loco. He said he guesses because it's all new rather than a mix of parts so they are wearing together rather than some older parts causing more wear or strain on new parts.

NRM reporting on FB that it's fixed

Now it's just sorting path and crew to get it back in place.

[avonside1563]

Why am I not surprised? It was entirely predictable that even after the most costly rebuild of a steam loco ever in the UK, 60103 would not be able to provide the reliability expected. Steam Locos of this age just don't.

 

Dava

The issues revolved around on going problems with the injectors which had been overhauled by a separate contractor and not by Riley's. Ian Riley's employees have now repaired the injector concerned and the loco was confirmed as 'Fit for Traffic' yesterday evening.

 

Injectors fail, that is one of the facts of steam locomotives and even newly overhauls injectors can give trouble. They can be a bit of a black art and sometimes the only way to get them to work is to wave a goat's head on a stick over them!

[The Stationmaster]

Why am I not surprised? It was entirely predictable that even after the most costly rebuild of a steam loco ever in the UK, 60103 would not be able to provide the reliability expected. Steam Locos of this age just don't.

 

Dava

 

Why was it 'predictable'?  All we know is that there has been a problem with an injector - we don't know what it was let alone why it happened and there are a number of things which could have caused it one or two of which have nothing whatsoever to do with the rebuild.

 

I for one would be totally amazed if the injectors weren't stripped and new parts provided/things restored to correct tolerances etc as part of the rebuild process (or even renewed),  I can hardly imagine the injectors being taken off when work started and being dumped on a shelf until they were refitted.