Popular Post Prometheus Posted June 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2016 Compromise abounds [particularly the lamp irons and brake pull rods] but a pretty ex-works result. More photos and commentary here [and paeans of praise for 'Klear'...]: http://srmg.org.uk/detailing-hornbys-ancient-opencab-pannier/ Tony 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 That was good timing. My second one arrived today, and hopefully I'll be starting on two conversions soon, so your article is very useful. One will be converted to one of the 1813 class that was fitted with panniers in 1904, in EM gauge. The other conversion should be rather more drastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2016 Sometimes the 'like' button doesn't do something justice.An absolute beauty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiket4 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Might have to dig mine out of the loft. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted June 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2016 I wonder if any one knows if the Bachmann chassis would fit underneath without major butchery ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold melmoth Posted June 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2016 I wonder if any one knows if the Bachmann chassis would fit underneath without major butchery ?. Here: http://www.gwr.org.uk/pro2721.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I wonder if any one knows if the Bachmann chassis would fit underneath without major butchery ?. There is a thread on this on the Model Rail forum. I commented but it needs some butchery around the firebox door area which reveals the chassis. However as someone with three burned out Bachmann pannier chassis and a Bachmann Pannier powered by a 1970s Triang Hall chassis with Romford wheels and with new axle holes drilled to suit the Bachmann coupling rods I just can't see the point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Has anyone converted the Hornby chassis to EM? It's the Chinese made one with traction tyres. I'd like to do a quick job by sliding the wheels out on the axles, if it will work. I can always do something better later, but for now I just need a working loco. I've got two chassis, and will be replacing the wheels on the other one, so I'd like to replace the wheels with traction tyres with flanged ones from the second chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I wonder if any one knows if the Bachmann chassis would fit underneath without major butchery ?. This has been posted before but here is my effort at converting the Hornby body. Using the small Dremell sanding drum with careful shaving the inside, the Bachmann 57XX chassis will fit in place of the dreadful Scalextric motor powered chassis that normally comes with the Hornby model. This one has received 1930's upgrade with full cab etc. It also enables daylight to be seen under the boiler and the Bachmann chassis has the bolier base as part of the assembly. This was a really cheap conversion based on a Roger Carpenter collection photo from one of the model shows. The body was £12.50 of eBay and the chassis came from a redundant Bachmann Pannier. There is also lots of room for weight in the Hornby tanks. Mike Wiltshire 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Thanks all for your comments and interest. I did think about using a Bachmann chassis in place of the Hornby one but did not have one to hand nor could I find one from the usual source at the time. The other issue was wheel spacing: with the Hornby body designed for the generic chassis, the splashers are pretty much in line with the wheel sets. The Bachmann chassis suffers slightly in this respect [although it is, undeniably, a better runner]. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted June 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2016 Sometimes the 'like' button doesn't do something justice.An absolute beauty. That's what the Craftsmanship button is for Splendid job, really must get mine sorted out too at some point. I've had to replace the chimney due to a teenage botch job when I tried to drill it out for some unfathomable reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighty1674 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Well I must say that looks really good and deserves the praise it has received......I was so impressed with this article I have just tonight purchased a loco from good old e-bay to have a go myself, I even found some old etched plates in my box of bits and a nice safety valve......I love the canopy under the roof looks good.......well done, a smashing article and gives us all a bit of inspiration..... Dave brighty....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 Thank you Dave - I appreciate your comments. Good luck with your's ! Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Some Finney 2721 parts are also available from Brassmasters nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Compromise abounds [particularly the lamp irons and brake pull rods] but a pretty ex-works result. More photos and commentary here [and paeans of praise for 'Klear'...]: http://srmg.org.uk/detailing-hornbys-ancient-opencab-pannier/ Tony Without doubt that's the best job I've seen anyone do on an RTR model. This model in terms of detail isn't bad, but you've just done an absolutely marvelous job. PS: My jaw is on the floor and no I haven't fallen down! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 Thank you MGR - my Christmas card list is getting longer and longer. Some Finney 2721 parts are also available from Brassmasters nowadays. Thanks, worth knowing - I wish I'd known that before ! Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Is it from the eLink starter set? Or have you had this in your possession for years? I'm toying with the idea of going DCC, I don't have much nor do I have a layout. So it seems a great time to start. I'm so impressed with your work that I wanted to give it a go on a slightly less detailing scale as a first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2016 Cracking job, only the coupling rods and bolt-heads betray its origins. If you do want to fit a better chassis without a mismatched wheelbase, try South Eastern Finecast. Many of their older products date back to the times of body kits to fit r-t-r mechanisms and they nowadays offer an etched n/s chassis kit to replace the old Tri-ang/Hornby 0-6-0. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold A Murphy Posted June 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2016 That is a lovely job - inspiring and will make a nice companion to the forthcoming Dean goods..... Alastair M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 Is it from the eLink starter set? Or have you had this in your possession for years? I'm toying with the idea of going DCC, I don't have much nor do I have a layout. So it seems a great time to start. I'm so impressed with your work that I wanted to give it a go on a slightly less detailing scale as a first No, this is one of two that I have. This one was purchased at least five years ago for, I think, £45 new. The other model I have is an original '80s release. There are usually plenty on eBay. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 There are loads on eBay, at all sorts of prices. I got a body for £5.50 plus postage, £8.40 in total. I already had a chassis I got for £10 with free postage on a BIN. The latest complete loco was £17.52 with free postage. Both chassis are what I think are the latest version. I missed one at 99p plus post that no one bid on, but I forgot to bid until it was too late! There are also lots on offer for far more, but if you're patient you should be able to get one for under £20 (maybe even well under). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 There are loads on eBay, at all sorts of prices. I got a body for £5.50 plus postage, £8.40 in total. I already had a chassis I got for £10 with free postage on a BIN. The latest complete loco was £17.52 with free postage. Both chassis are what I think are the latest version. I missed one at 99p plus post that no one bid on, but I forgot to bid until it was too late! There are also lots on offer for far more, but if you're patient you should be able to get one for under £20 (maybe even well under). Get them before they become popular. Let the eBay prices of formerly-unpopular models such as the APT be a warning!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetmorgan Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 These locos are also a good base for back dating to the saddle tank 0-6-0's. I've got a couple of panniers in my stash and will be getting a couple more for conversion back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 These locos are also a good base for back dating to the saddle tank 0-6-0's. I've got a couple of panniers in my stash and will be getting a couple more for conversion back. I've got a whitemetal saddle tank waiting to go on one of mine. The other one is going back to within a year or so of the first panniers being fitted to any 0-6-0. I was originally thinking of altering it to the short panniers first fitted to a 2721, but will be doing a long pannier version of an 1813 class. The panniers fitted to the 1813s were built to go on the 2721s, but the 1813s went into the works first, so got them instead. I wonder how many people will tell me that it shouldn't be painted Indian red below the footplate, and should say Great Western on the tanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted June 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2016 Very nice indeed, and very good timing as well as you have inspired me to have a go. Although I am thinking of substituting a high level 57xx chassis when I reporter it. Having just found a photo of 2785 at Newton Abbot in 1947 in what I believe to be GWR black (given it was rebuilt in the early 40s after after bomb damage), makes it even more tempting. Now to keep an eye on eBay for one of the inevitable ridiculously cheap bodies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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