Jintyman Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 Now as for the size of this speaker .... <shouts>pictures pictures</shouts> can be heard in the background! Rich I've put a picture up before. but here it is again.................................... From below, lifted slightly so the gap still shows between the tanks From above. I shall close off the box area for the decoder to sit on, so that will become its own chamber with the tanks themselves The speaker is 100mm x 36mm, 8ohm, 10w. I've got the Zimo MX969S, loaded with Paul Chetter's Protodrive 37/0 sound ready for this, so will fix it all up for a sound test as soon as I can. But I imagine it will be after the weekend now. Jinty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted January 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2017 I've put a picture up before. but here it is again.................................... From below, lifted slightly so the gap still shows between the tanks WB 052.jpg From above. I shall close off the box area for the decoder to sit on, so that will become its own chamber with the tanks themselves WB 053.jpg The speaker is 100mm x 36mm, 8ohm, 10w. I've got the Zimo MX969S, loaded with Paul Chetter's Protodrive 37/0 sound ready for this, so will fix it all up for a sound test as soon as I can. But I imagine it will be after the weekend now. Jinty Oops sorry - missed that somebody. That is ******y big speaker! You do know that when you run that 37 through Talyllyn Junction, they're really not suppose to hear it starting off in Aberystwyth don't you! . Looking forward to hearing the outcome! You see, its things like this that make me think kit building is worth it ... by the time we've finished modifying everything and cutting bits away .... there'll not be all that much left of the original! Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) Oops sorry - missed that somebody. That is ******y big speaker! You do know that when you run that 37 through Talyllyn Junction, they're really not suppose to hear it starting off in Aberystwyth don't you! . Looking forward to hearing the outcome! I'm beginning to think Talyllyn Junction survived into the bus shelter revival period with 08's, 25's, 37's and 60's running through it. Wow!!! Actually Rule 1 might be more interesting than authenticytis superannuated Pannier Tanks and Ivatt 2F 2-6-0's.... Edited January 23, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I'll probably hear it start up from down here Mate, mind you I've got the New Inglorious / Inglorious, and Joe Bonamassa /Blues of Desperation Albums on at full tilt in the Shed at the moment so maybe not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 You do know that when you run that 37 through Talyllyn Junction, they're really not suppose to hear it starting off in Aberystwyth don't you! . Looking forward to hearing the outcome! I'm beginning to think Talyllyn Junction survived into the bus shelter revival period with 08's, 25's, 37's and 60's running through it. Wow!!! Actually Rule 1 might be more interesting than authenticytis superannuated Pannier Tanks and Ivatt 2F 2-6-0's.... The class 37 (and the class 60) are for my next project, Wrexbury Marsh TRSMD that can be found here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/119128-wrexbury-marsh-trsmd/ The 37 will be 37042 which lasted in BR Banger Blue into 1989 at least!!! There is obviously no reason why they can't be tested on Talyllyn though, as Coachman says, "Rule 1" Jinty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Hi Rich, Firstly I marked out the centre of the curved arc with a dot, and then drew a line across the top of the existing buffers to bring it just a smidgin lower than the raised centre piece (about a mm or so). I then drilled out a pilot hole at the centre mark, and gently opened it out with a hand drill. Once it broke through the bottom, I then had to file it to shape with a small half round file. I've since made up the buffer beams and glued them in place on the old plastic coupling beam that has been filed flat for the brass beam to sit on. I need to file the corners of the chassis block a little yet, so that the buffer beam sits square. One thing I am sitting scratching my head trying to work out is how the steps fold up. Does anyone here have a copy of the instructions they could scan and e-mail me over? PM me if so, thanks in advance!!! Hi Peter, Thanks, yes I can confirm that the GUV's are indeed Heljan. The 37 seems quite straight forward up to now. You want to see the size of speaker I've been able to get into the tanks!!!!! Jinty Thanks Jinty, Sound is a little way off for my 37 but I know where to come for advice. I would like to see what you get in the JLTRT diesel detail kit as I need oval buffers for when I do mine. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 Thanks Jinty, Sound is a little way off for my 37 but I know where to come for advice. I would like to see what you get in the JLTRT diesel detail kit as I need oval buffers for when I do mine. Cheers Peter. Hi Peter, The JLTRT detailing kit has a multitude of bits in it, including the correct (non turning) oval buffers. Also included are various pipes for the buffer beam, , couplings, cab controls, ETH equipment, headcode discs, etc, etc. All very nice lost wax brass castings, except the horns and drivers seats, which are whitemetal. Jinty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 Today has seen a couple of finishers, the Heljan class 25 and the Easterm 'J' thingamy!!! Here are a few pictures of the 25, fitted with Paul Chetter Class 25 Protodrive sound. Directional headcode lights on F0 and directional tail lights on F21. I'm going to try to do a video later, if I can engage the help of the wife! Anyway, here are the pictures: The bloke looks like he's had one too many!!! I've also revisited the Eastern 0-6-0 and given the rust some more of an aged look about it. I'd been experimenting with some weathering paste, but when I'd sealed it with Testors the paste that I'd applied lightened for some reason. Anyway, it was back to using the MIG powders to give it a more 'lived in' look. Jinty 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Today has seen a couple of finishers, the Heljan class 25 and the Easterm 'J' thingamy!!! Here are a few pictures of the 25, fitted with Paul Chetter Class 25 Protodrive sound. Directional headcode lights on F0 and directional tail lights on F21. I'm going to try to do a video later, if I can engage the help of the wife! Anyway, here are the pictures: WB 074.jpg WB 075.jpg WB 076.jpg The bloke looks like he's had one too many!!! WB 077.jpg WB 078.jpg I've also revisited the Eastern 0-6-0 and given the rust some more of an aged look about it. I'd been experimenting with some weathering paste, but when I'd sealed it with Testors the paste that I'd applied lightened for some reason. Anyway, it was back to using the MIG powders to give it a more 'lived in' look. WB 079.jpg WB 080.jpg WB 081.jpg Jinty What a pleasure to come over to the Dark Side and see a nice model, with Weathering well executed and no adverse comments, really good mate, well done and thanks for posting such good images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2017 Well they look rather nice Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 Also a little bit done on the 37. Ground the corners back so that the new buffer beam sat square and is ready for buffers , coupling and pipework now. Here it is with the body on checking for clearances Onto the horn grilles next and the boiler blanking plate on the body. Jinty 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Top job mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 And here is the video of the 25 Jinty 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2017 Nice video Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 My Lordz! That thrash away with the GUVS almost brought on a bit of flailing and bellowing! Can't beat a bit of rat action! JF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano747 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Hi Jintyman, Your weathering is some of the most realistic I've ever seen!! Fantastic work!! Regards, Deano. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) Great Class 25 sound with that base speaker. Takes me back to the local shunt between Bangor yard and the Tunnel using a Class 24, and also the Gunpowder trains entering Blaenau from the south. I wonder what a steam loco would sound like with one of your whopping speakers in the Tender....? Edited January 26, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Dougal Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Hi Peter, The JLTRT detailing kit has a multitude of bits in it, including the correct (non turning) oval buffers. Also included are various pipes for the buffer beam, , couplings, cab controls, ETH equipment, headcode discs, etc, etc. All very nice lost wax brass castings, except the horns and drivers seats, which are whitemetal. Jinty Jinty, do you have a reference for this kit? Can't find it on their website? Thanks, Paul - Father D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Jinty, do you have a reference for this kit? Can't find it on their website? Thanks, Paul - Father D. Hi Father, The reference code is: PWRP31 And can be seen here: http://justliketherealthing.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=15&product_id=198 All the best Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Had a quick meet up with Jinty at Talyllyn this evening, I can assure everybody that hasn't seen or heard the 25 in the flesh it sounds and looks even better than on the videos. It's blinking awesome !!!!! Dda Iawn Jinty Craig 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 If my 26 sounds half as good as that 25 once Jints has worked his Magic on it, I'll be more than a happy Bunny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted January 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2017 Jinty, A mate of mine is going to put a Zimo chip in a Heljan 33 - any recommendations for speakers? Also, I may have missed it earlier, so apologies for asking if its already been answered, but my 25 is next to have the 'Paul' effect done to it ... which speakers did you use - yours or commercial ones? Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) Jinty, A mate of mine is going to put a Zimo chip in a Heljan 33 - any recommendations for speakers? Also, I may have missed it earlier, so apologies for asking if its already been answered, but my 25 is next to have the 'Paul' effect done to it ... which speakers did you use - yours or commercial ones? Rich Hi Rich, The speakers used are my own supplied ones. I use two that are set above the carden shafts on pedestals. Here is a picture of the installation using the ESU V4L decoder, just switch the ESU for the Zimo!!! The conversion write up is here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/98974-talyllyn-junction-a-long-project-trackwork-wagons/?p=2439920 Basically you solder up a couple of pedestals from brass box and brass angle. Glue a piece of brass angle behind the cab bulkheads and then glue the speakers (facing downwards) onto the pedestals. Then check the body clears ok. Simples Jinty Edited to add: If using two of my speakers they will need to be wired in parallel. Edited January 26, 2017 by Jintyman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Jinty, A mate of mine is going to put a Zimo chip in a Heljan 33 - any recommendations for speakers? Also, I may have missed it earlier, so apologies for asking if its already been answered, but my 25 is next to have the 'Paul' effect done to it ... which speakers did you use - yours or commercial ones? Rich Sorry Rich, I missed the first question. I can't advise as I've not seen the 33 with the lid off!!!! If it's like the 26, then I'll be able to work it out when I do AndyP's 26 in the next few weeks. Jinty PS: I forgot to mention that the class 25 with the Zimo and the two speakers was only on about one third volume in that video. The volume can be increased with no distortion as I'm sure Craig will bear out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted January 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2017 Thanks Jinty I'll pass the recommendation on! Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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