RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted June 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2017 There's clearly been a lot of thought put in to this project and it's definitely paying off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coachmann Posted June 5, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) For those thinking of building a GWR signalbox out of the Ratio No.552 kit, the following shots might be useful. The hipped roof was abandoned in 1880 for the cheaper gable roof but was reintroduced on boxes built between 1896 and 1921. There were many small differences between individual signal boxes, as the standard components could be tailored to suit the location. This is a rear view of Carrog Signal Box.... ....And the model. I built the decorative chimney from embossed brick on a Plastikard base (the kit comes with a stove pipe). Downspouts and other small fittings will be added after an interior has been fitted and the roof glued down.... The Llangollen end showing the additional door to the locking room... ...And the model. It is clear now that Slaters embossed brick sheet would have been far better suited to GWR structures than Wills brick sheet. The entrance end... ....And the model. A fence has yet to be built.... The front... Edited June 5, 2017 by coachmann 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted June 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2017 Larry, those real life - model photos are great, it looks just like the real thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1722 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Wowser! Incredible modelling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Larry Your signal box looks the part. I love the attention to detail. Your thread continues to encourage me to greater things and when it comes to the signal box at Penmaenpool (also still standing but much modified as a natural history museum) I must remember to come back to this part of your Carrog build. After all, we may be on different scales and original companies but it is the same through line from Chester to Barmouth! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) Hi Paul, it is surprising how much there is to do when building a layout, even when it is a simple station (on paper) like Penmaenpool or Carrog. David at Towyn is now back into his Talyllyn Junction layout so things are happening again for the three of us.. The heavy rain has put paid to almost everything today except painting the rails in the goods yard. A quick note at bedtime to say the locking room door handle is now on the correct side. Edited June 5, 2017 by coachmann 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 That signal box is full of detail. Superb modelling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) That signal box is full of detail. Superb modelling. I smiled in my perverse way as actually it is not full of detail, but is a shell inside haha. Must pick up a signalbox interior kit this week. A ready-to-plonk station house will arrive today. This lousy weather is the best time for making things indoors and a RTP building wll give me a head start. All I need is some etched window frames... Edited June 6, 2017 by coachmann 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I smiled in my perverse way as actually it is not full of detail, but is a shell inside haha. Must pick up a signalbox interior kit this week. A ready-to-plonk station house will arrive today. This lousy weather is the best time for making things indoors and a RTP building wll give me a head start. All I need is some etched window frames... Larry Have you tried York Model Rail windows etc.? As to the weather, the wind is blowing over 60kph today so spray painting outside is out of the question. In the village this morning chairs were flying around the outdoor cafés! And they weren't green! Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2017 For somebody who doesn't like structure modelling that signalbox is very impressive indeed. Incidentally without a doubt the best interior kit for a Western 'box is the Springside one - the 'full one' is a bit pricey at £16.75 but it is at least 100% GWR with even the cupboards and stove being the correct pattern (the stove is correct for use with a masonry chimney) while the lever frame has been accurately modelled from a Reading made 'frame. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 Larry Have you tried York Model Rail windows etc.? Thanks Paul, I found some windows (and doors) I can adapt to suit Carrog on the Scale Link site and placed an order. Failure to find anything would have meant building window frames from Plastikard glued to 40thou clear glazing. The intention last January was to have them etched to measurements, but there we are.... It's only a model railway and I won't even notice things are not spot-on once operation starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 For somebody who doesn't like structure modelling that signalbox is very impressive indeed. Incidentally without a doubt the best interior kit for a Western 'box is the Springside one - the 'full one' is a bit pricey at £16.75 but it is at least 100% GWR with even the cupboards and stove being the correct pattern (the stove is correct for use with a masonry chimney) while the lever frame has been accurately modelled from a Reading made 'frame. Thanks for this. I rather suspect I will go for something inexpensive, afterall, I very nearly started sticking sticks in there to represent levers.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted June 6, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2017 Have a look at the Severn Models website, sorry, no link as I am only my tablet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2017 Thanks for this. I rather suspect I will go for something inexpensive, afterall, I very nearly started sticking sticks in there to represent levers.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 While I do not advocate sloppy standards, I do tend to make things as simple as possible and so a super-dooper signal box interior simply wouldn't be seen to any advantage due to reflections within the shed. I always take council from other modellers (while ignoring the blandishments of armchair theorisers), and I noticed Ratio do an interior kit. For once, I consider plastic will do nicely seeing as it will be tucked safely inside its shell. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 While I do not advocate sloppy standards, I do tend to make things as simple as possible and so a super-dooper signal box interior simply wouldn't be seen to any advantage due to reflections within the shed. I always take council from other modellers (while ignoring the blandishments of armchair theorisers), and I noticed Ratio do an interior kit. For once, I consider plastic will do nicely seeing as it will be tucked safely inside its shell. And very few people are going to be examining the interior of your signal box with a magnifying glass for 10 minutes are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted June 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2017 Have you seen this ? http://severnmodels.com/epages/eshop1179816.mobile/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop1179816/Products/D10 A brass signal box interior. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 Have you seen this ? http://severnmodels.com/epages/eshop1179816.mobile/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop1179816/Products/D10 A brass signal box interior. Yes, it is a lovely piece of kit, but I am not inclined to doing a boatload of fine soldering for a signalbox interior.. The Ratio plastic kit will go together in seconds.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I smiled in my perverse way as actually it is not full of detail, but is a shell inside haha. Must pick up a signalbox interior kit this week. A ready-to-plonk station house will arrive today. This lousy weather is the best time for making things indoors and a RTP building wll give me a head start. All I need is some etched window frames... I meant the building and surrounding area was full of detail, such as the non slip blocks by the steps and the lower set of steps too. Great stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted June 6, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2017 Yes, it is a lovely piece of kit, but I am not inclined to doing a boatload of fine soldering for a signalbox interior.. The Ratio plastic kit will go together in seconds.... It's finished now then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 While plotting out where the various station buildings would go, it was obvious the loading bay was too short! This little job took all afternoon.... Ignore the pesky green chair. This area leading to the cattle dock was probably ash in BR days... The signalbox has acquired a lamp... 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 That green chair is there again. You know it is inevitable it will appear on your layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 That green chair is there again. You know it is inevitable it will appear on your layout. Oh no it won't... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Oh no it won't... There is and answer to that reply .......Oh yes -- ---.............but would I dare Brilliant progress Larry very impressive ..... the engineering brick work is so spot on what colours have to used to get that effect please ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 There is and answer to that reply .......Oh yes -- ---.............but would I dare Brilliant progress Larry very impressive ..... the engineering brick work is so spot on what colours have to used to get that effect please ...... The colour is rather elusive and I used Humbrol Matt 112 as a brush over. But the bricks were first sprayed with my own mix in cellulose (on top of plastic primer). The bricks look rather dark in real life; more of a purplish-blue and did a lot of experimenting where it wouldn't show. In the end I left well alone. I used Precision Paints engineering brick blue a couple of years back. Signalbox bricks.... New building in GWR style at Llangollen.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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