kintbury jon Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Roco-63007-DB-Class-420-3-Car-EMU-HO-Scale-Boxed-24770-eBayq-/302322666900?hash=item4663d5cd94:g:MTgAAOSwfpVZH~7S Didn't know that Trains 4u had moved to China! Have let Gareth know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Which item Jon? The link is just to a page of search results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) It's gone already! I did report it to ebay so perhaps they were quick to deal with it. It was a Roco DB Class 420 unit for £22.84 free post - odd to start with! The whole listing had been copied from one of the Trains 4 U listings with contact details etc. The only thing that was different was an ebay seller with a feedback of 0 and the fact that the item was in China. Edited May 20, 2017 by kintbury jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted May 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2017 There seem to be a few of these springing up. There was an Arnold N gauge set for £8.80 (including post) that was a scam picked up on the N gauge forum. As ever, if it looks too good to be true it probably is. Whilst eBay and PayPal will refund lost money in these circumstances the scammers can still get away with your funds, your name, address, email, phone number, eBay user name and PayPal account name. Not good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I think I tried to make a purchase from this seller this morning - a Hornby Clan for £22.83 (warning bells should have been ringing, I know) but fortunately PayPal refused to make the payment and advised me to contact them. I initially thought my PayPal account had been hacked and was unusable but I checked and all seemed fine. Clearly PayPal had my best interests at heart, thankfully. I saw another listing from the same seller this afternoon - a Bachmann 108 for about £23 including free postage from China. If it seems too good to be true, etc, etc...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted May 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2017 Another one here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-F-n-gauge-princess-coronation-class-eBays-/152555788432?hash=item2385089890:g:hjYAAOSwY3BZINiF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEOEng03 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) I had noted a LU Museum Class 66 in Sir Peter Hendry livery for just short of £24... It looked properly out of place. This was followed by a Dynamis Ultima for around £40. I was tempted, but saw it was China and steered well clear. Looks like someone brought both, but they took quite a while to sell - suggesting that people were unsure! Edited May 22, 2017 by GEOEng03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Has anyone reported these scams to eBay, or was it not worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted May 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2017 Another one here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-F-n-gauge-princess-coronation-class-eBays-/152555788432?hash=item2385089890:g:hjYAAOSwY3BZINiF Copy of http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-F-n-gauge-princess-coronation-class-/262951640186?hash=item3d39239c7a%3Ag%3AXicAAOSwRUhY~kVI&nma=true&si=kbQTCfYAZ9t2RPpBqEtXcFvlxwo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Andi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Has anyone reported these scams to eBay, or was it not worth it? I did report the one that I saw to ebay. I did not receive a response from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dickerson Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I don't think you get a response. I've reported a couple - one which was "bought" in the meantime and one that was removed. Within a few hours it was back at a slightly higher price, same (copied) description - unfortunately it may mean someone's trying to find a more plausible price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 If you pay via Paypal then you will get a refund from them if it fails to arrive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted May 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2017 If you pay via Paypal then you will get a refund from them if it fails to arrive Hi True but the scammer now has your details such as real name and address. Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetmorgan Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Another one here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-F-n-gauge-princess-coronation-class-eBays-/152555788432?hash=item2385089890:g:hjYAAOSwY3BZINiF Copy of http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-F-n-gauge-princess-coronation-class-/262951640186?hash=item3d39239c7a%3Ag%3AXicAAOSwRUhY~kVI&nma=true&si=kbQTCfYAZ9t2RPpBqEtXcFvlxwo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Andi Has the scam listing is still on I've reported it to Ebay. Had to list it under fraudulent activities as they don't seem to have anywhere to give information about one listing copying another listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47348scrh Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 have found another its a dc kit class 205 for buy now at £26 it has 10 watching And now another with a Cheltenham model centre limited edition DRS 37038 for £21.13 with free postage!! Even has the friendly text in the description from "Derek" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted May 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2017 Hi True but the scammer now has your details such as real name and address. Cheers Paul Paul that is also true of any seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted May 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) Paul that is also true of any seller. A real seller has a legitimate use for it and should abide by data protection and consumer rights legislation. The same can't be said of a scammer. Edited May 26, 2017 by ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted May 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) Hi True but the scammer now has your details such as real name and address. Cheers Paul A real seller has a legitimate use for it and should abide by data protection and consumer rights legislation. The same can't be said of a scammer. These details can easily be obtained by legitimate means. Slightly OT here but individual "Sellers" aren't bound by the data protection act. Edited May 26, 2017 by chris p bacon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted May 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2017 These details can easily be obtained by legitimate means. Hi Yes they can but why give it to the scammers on a plate so to speak. Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted May 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2017 A scammer could easily sell a low value item which is received by the buyer who is now lined up for a scam later by the "trusted seller" Let's face it for years people worried about keeping their bank account and sort code number private, yet were quite happy to pay by cheque to a complete stranger. Guess what- printed on the cheque are those very details. We can get paranoid about these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted May 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2017 Hi Yes they can but why give it to the scammers on a plate so to speak. Cheers Paul They don't want your setails, they just want your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted May 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) They don't want your setails, they just want your money. Not true. 'Live' details, especially of people who are gullible/greedy are a tradeable commodity on the darker reaches of the web. Mind you, they won't say no to your money either! Edited May 26, 2017 by ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted May 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 29, 2017 Still quite a few of these showing up, even layouts "for collection only" from China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted May 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 29, 2017 Why get stitched up with crazy interest rates for a payday loan when you can flog a non-existent item on ebay and use the buyer's money for a few weeks instead....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devo63 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 The scammers now seem to be listing UK addresses as their location instead of China. Two different new sellers are listing the same identical Triang BoB loco (items 152570416937 & 322541201776) both with an starting price of about £1.50. They give their locations as Kent and Dorset. One of these fake sellers also has a medal listed which has received a couple of bids. Dave R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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