RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted October 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: If you let me know which Coach and what year (approximately, I'll gladly search my info for you. PM me if you'd rather. Phil Thanks. It's the BR(S) 2-set, a diag 2123 BSK and diag 2405 BCK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: Typical discount price for a pair of these is coming in around £130, including carriage, .... I'd hope to get TWO carriages for that price ! 🤭 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted October 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Wickham Green too said: I'd hope to get TWO carriages for that price ! 🤭 A pair is two AFAIK. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteN92 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 More froth for people to pour over. Red seats Blue for first Look at that underframe. Cheers Pete 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Phatbob said: Thanks. It's the BR(S) 2-set, a diag 2123 BSK and diag 2405 BCK. I'll see if I can find out, however there are others far more knowledgeable than myself such as Mr Muzz and Dunsignalling (John). Is it the Green Pair I assume Bob? Just confirm exactly what you need to know please? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: I'd hope to get TWO carriages for that price ! 🤭 It is getting quite expensive isn't it. However, that is going to be the future I am afraid. I feel sorry for (say) Student and younger Modellers that don't have much income, or someone with a lot more outgoings due to the present financial situation. I am really lucky to have had a full working life of nearly 50 years and benefitted (?) from lower wage careers in Public Service most of the time, but with a reasonably good Pension. Something that many more recent employees no longer receive. Phil 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted October 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: It is getting quite expensive isn't it. However, that is going to be the future I am afraid. I feel sorry for (say) Student and younger Modellers that don't have much income, or someone with a lot more outgoings due to the present financial situation. I am really lucky to have had a full working life of nearly 50 years and benefitted (?) from lower wage careers in Public Service most of the time, but with a reasonably good Pension. Something that many more recent employees no longer receive. Phil Though the good thing about modelling the ex-LSWR lines in the West Country is that if you set your layout far enough along the Withered Arm, one of these 2-sets, a Hornby 59' Bulleid 3-set, or a LW Maunsell "Torrington Set"; coupled to an air-smoothed WC, or maybe a Bachmann N, can be your Atlantic Coast Express. Where else could you accurately model a crack named train so economically? John Edited October 21, 2022 by Dunsignalling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted October 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: I'll see if I can find out, however there are others far more knowledgeable than myself such as Mr Muzz and Dunsignalling (John). Is it the Green Pair I assume Bob? Just confirm exactly what you need to know please? Phil Yep. The BR(S) green pair. The detail pack comes with a second vacuum reservoir. Do I need to glue it on, or just leave it in the goody bag? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 If you can see it in any of the photos in your collection fit it ...... if you can't don't bother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) My order arrived this morning and the first thing I've done is check the couplings and all looks fine to me. First picture is using Hunt Ultra Close magnetic couplings Although I now use these in preference to the Roco couplings, here's another picture using these. Very slight gap here though Edited October 22, 2022 by RFS 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Phatbob said: Yep. The BR(S) green pair. The detail pack comes with a second vacuum reservoir. Do I need to glue it on, or just leave it in the goody bag? On checking my Mr. King, Southern Coaches, the later/modified Underframes (which I am sure these coaches had at this time), had two Vacuum Cylinders fitted. One each side almost opposite the Brake Vacuum Actuator, between that and the inside Bogie Axle (but on the opposite side remember). It also says/shows that there were Battery Boxes each side but the Position Varies. Unless you have a picture of the actual Coach to check then Baccy should have got that correct, or as far as they could from their research. I hope that helps and as you can only really see one side of the Coach at any one time then I'd not lose sleep over it personally, but it is nice to think you have it correct isn't it? If you can find the instruction Sheet for a Comet Models (now Wizard) for this Coach it shows the positions for fitting. All the best matey; I've just ordered mine before they get sold out and despite being a wee bit expensive, with Accurascale Banana Vans being nearly £30 each, I think they are bargains before China implodes and we get nothing from there again. Phil P.S. I now wait for someone to tell me King is incorrect for this Coach! Waaaaa, who cares! Edited October 22, 2022 by Mallard60022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2022 Thanks Rails: Looks lIke Baccy have left the Prestell Single Tank in place (this side). There is a smaller Tank this end, opposite side. I'll check other pics on their site. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Cylinders, tanks, actuators .......... AAAAAGH !!?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2022 Thanks Baccy. Ummmm! That stuffs KIng's Diagram then? Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: All the best matey; I've just ordered mine before they get sold out and despite being a wee bit expensive, with Accurascale Banana Vans being nearly £40 each, I think they are bargains before China implodes and we get nothing from there again. Phil 28 sheets each Ducky.😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Wickham Green too said: Cylinders, tanks, actuators .......... AAAAAGH !!?! I have no idea if those are the correct terms, I just made them up as I've not taken my Meds yet.🤪 Also it now shows how poor the original Baccy, Bulleid UFs were for detail and how I've done nothing about them for about 18 years plus! Yuch. P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, gwrrob said: 28 sheets each Ducky.😉 Oh yes so it is.. my bad! Adjusted and that now puts these Coaches into a bit more perspective; small = far away etc. P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) If you're in to automation and require resistor wheelsets, it's a doddle with these coaches (as with the Birdcage ones too). Just add resistor using the supplied screws! Edited October 22, 2022 by RFS 1 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Please could someone advise what the 2-car R sets would be marshalled in with when part of longer trains? The blood and custard pages are a really good resource but I've not managed to find the information I'm looking for. I've seen lots of references to how they can represent a branch-line portion of mainline trains. Would they be seen tagged onto the end of H or L sets? Or even in combination with 59' 3-car sets or formations of Maunsells/Mk1s? Ideally I'd prefer a H set in BR Green, but as with those waiting for maroon Thompsons, who knows if and when we will see that, and who knows what the price of a single carriage will be by the time they appear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2022 I've just ordered the two BR(S) green ones on Rails where they are now (21:00, 22/10/2022) showing stock available, so it looks like they're here 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Torn-on-the-platform said: Please could someone advise what the 2-car R sets would be marshalled in with when part of longer trains? The blood and custard pages are a really good resource but I've not managed to find the information I'm looking for. I've seen lots of references to how they can represent a branch-line portion of mainline trains. Would they be seen tagged onto the end of H or L sets? Or even in combination with 59' 3-car sets or formations of Maunsells/Mk1s? Ideally I'd prefer a H set in BR Green, but as with those waiting for maroon Thompsons, who knows if and when we will see that, and who knows what the price of a single carriage will be by the time they appear. What dates approx? Basically they could be put with anything in any order. I've got WTTs for 1958 then through 1960/1/2, mainly Summer Timetables. I have decent Train Formations if you'd like them Summer SO mainly but some for Weekdays and Sundays. Phil Edited October 22, 2022 by Mallard60022 Add some info. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ian J. said: I've just ordered the two BR(S) green ones on Rails where they are now (21:00, 22/10/2022) showing stock available, so it looks like they're here 🙂 Yup, ordered mine today as well. Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 33 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: What dates approx? Basically they could be put with anything in any order. I've got WTTs for 1958 then through 1960/1/2, mainly Summer Timetables. I have decent Train Formations if you'd like them Summer SO mainly but some for Weekdays and Sundays. Phil Thanks Phil! My layout is BR(s) but I'm pretty much one of those rule one people. I do like my trains to at least 'look right' though. So what I'm really asking is what could set 69 (or identical sets) in BR(s) green realistically be coupled to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2022 I'm presuming, and I could be wrong here, that this set 69 could be in any formation that went to the West of England, most likely beyond Exeter. In terms of actual other sets likely to be in such formations, I'd need to consult the Excel list as per https://sremg.org.uk/coach/sets.html, and Mike King's book on Southern Coaches. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Might be worth consulting Mr.Gould's Bullied Coaches volume, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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