malc60015 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Hi Al. just done that to my J94s. be careful 12 and13 had the removed when they had the later crest. 6,30,34,79 kept them I think 68 Kept it’s steps but have not seen a clear photo of it to say conclusively.I will try to post some pics later. cheers Malc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Also 68068 retained round buffers and extended bunker which makes it more likely to have kept the steps. Cheers Malc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted February 23, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, malc60015 said: Hi Al. just done that to my J94s. be careful 12 and13 had the removed when they had the later crest. 6,30,34,79 kept them I think 68 Kept it’s steps but have not seen a clear photo of it to say conclusively.I will try to post some pics later. cheers Malc. 1 hour ago, malc60015 said: Also 68068 retained round buffers and extended bunker which makes it more likely to have kept the steps. Cheers Malc Oh that's great Malc, thank you very much for that. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Hi Al pics of my fleet of J94s. Cheers Malc 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Very nice collection there, it also makes me feel much better about having twenty something locos for a single track branch line! 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted February 23, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, malc60015 said: Hi Al pics of my fleet of J94s. Cheers Malc Very nice, looks just like Rowsley Yard on a bad Saturday... I can see the seams on the saddle tank which suggest most of those are Dapol / Hornby bodied, is that right? Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I have to confess that there is a 4F lurking in my collection. For no better reason than I like them. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) The original plan(40 years ago) was to be a retirement project of Rowsley shed 1958-1964 so I started collecting loco’s. 33 years later when retirement came I then realised the size would be prohibitive. So I now have a tail chaser plus sidings, engine shed and station. Then DCC came along and the challenge of converting airfix,mainline,Lima and Hornby stock commenced. I am about 66% through this with only a couple of disasters. It is all based on what I used to see when sat on the gate at South Jct box. Happy days gone but not forgotten. Al sorry for the hi-jack. cheers Malc p.s. All j94 are Dapol purchased when they were first released, there is only 68068 that has the wrong cab backplate (wrong shape rear spectacles) all run very well. Edited February 24, 2022 by malc60015 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, MrWolf said: I have to confess that there is a 4F lurking in my collection. For no better reason than I like them. I have more than a few Airfix 4F,s I fear. malc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) I have a similar problem with the old GWR Dean Goods models. How do you find the 4Fs run? All mine needed was a clean and oiling, it's never going to be the standard of (some) current models, but it generally behaves, it must be about forty years old now. Edited February 24, 2022 by MrWolf 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted February 24, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) On 24/02/2022 at 00:57, malc60015 said: Al sorry for the hi-jack. No problem On 24/02/2022 at 01:44, MrWolf said: How do you find the 4Fs run? All mine needed was a clean and oiling, it's never going to be the standard of (some) current models, but it generally behaves, it must be about forty years old now. I too have a number of the Airfix 4Fs from when I was modelling Bakewell, I found they ran well, if very noisy. Al. Edited February 3, 2023 by Alister_G replaced images 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I didn't want to thread hog, so I posted a picture of my 4F up on the Aston thread, just to show that it exists! Seeing that you have a 4F addiction, I don't feel guilty. Long may they run, even if they do sound like a blender full of masonry nails... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 7 hours ago, MrWolf said: I have a similar problem with the old GWR Dean Goods models. How do you find the 4Fs run? All mine needed was a clean and oiling, it's never going to be the standard of (some) current models, but it generally behaves, it must be about forty years old now. Hi I find with a Zimo mx600 and lais 870007 they run as well as most newer models.some are noisey but can run extremely slowly. You see a lot of comments on the forum from some sources condemning old models, they obviously don’t like a challenge. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2022 My old Airfix 4F has been fitted with a Brassmasters' chassis. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Rowsley17D said: My old Airfix 4F has been fitted with a Brassmasters' chassis. Very nice, good to see 4429 long time resident at Rowsley. All mine are from 1958 onwards so had to re-number them. Thanks for sharing. Cheers Malc 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 52 minutes ago, malc60015 said: Hi I find with a Zimo mx600 and lais 870007 they run as well as most newer models.some are noisey but can run extremely slowly. You see a lot of comments on the forum from some sources condemning old models, they obviously don’t like a challenge. I'm still running DC in deference (mostly to my wallet!) as I have a lot of older locos. I don't worry too much about those who insist that new has to be better, my daily transport is 73 years old this August! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted February 24, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2022 What your legs?! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bogie said: What your legs?! No, this: 11 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, MrWolf said: No, this: Defo my era love it,,,,! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted February 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 hours ago, malc60015 said: Defo my era love it,,,,! With the price of fuel we're all going to need one. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 hours ago, MrWolf said: No, this: I've bleated about this before but we really need someone to start producing 3D prints of these and other bikes of the 40s/50s and 60s. Nothing stunning just bikes typical of the era. Villiers powered lightweights, 350/500 singles, 650 twins. And some suitable sidecars as well though they are of course the devils work............. Rob 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted February 24, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) On 24/02/2022 at 09:20, malc60015 said: You see a lot of comments on the forum from some sources condemning old models, they obviously don’t like a challenge. One of the things that came out of the Doncaster show, (sorry to keep harping on about it) was how many modellers were surprised at the running capabilities of my J94s, nearly all of which are Dapol, I think one is a later Hornby, and one a DJM. They will run slowly, smoothly and quietly, if you treat them right. I have found that using paper shims to slightly adjust the location of the motor and worm-drive in the chassis can make a big difference. The mounting of the motor is not exactly precise - there's just a keeper plate screwed down at each end: Al. Edited February 3, 2023 by Alister_G replaced images 4 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JustinDean Posted February 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, NHY 581 said: I've bleated about this before but we really need someone to start producing 3D prints of these and other bikes of the 40s/50s and 60s. Nothing stunning just bikes typical of the era. Villiers powered lightweights, 350/500 singles, 650 twins. And some suitable sidecars as well though they are of course the devils work............. Rob I nagged Alan (Modelu) about this just a couple of days ago! Jay 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2022 44 minutes ago, JustinDean said: I nagged Alan (Modelu) about this just a couple of days ago! Jay I've also mentioned this to him some time ago. Offered to put him in contact with owners of suitable subjects..... Rob. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, NHY 581 said: I've bleated about this before but we really need someone to start producing 3D prints of these and other bikes of the 40s/50s and 60s. Nothing stunning just bikes typical of the era. Villiers powered lightweights, 350/500 singles, 650 twins. And some suitable sidecars as well though they are of course the devils work............. Rob I've often thought the same thing. What few 4mm scale motorcycles are available are not that great and rather dated models. It would certainly be worthwhile a company making several types, even if they were a little generic, as at this size they do look quite similar. They would also have a broad appeal because many lasted at least three decades in regular service. If we break things down enough, there's three obvious stages in the visual appearance of a motorcycle. c1905 - c1930, the "flat tank". c1929 - c1952, the "saddle tank". c1953 - c1980, the "swinging arm" frame. The lightweight machines, such as the BSA Bantam, James Cadet, Excelsior Consort were generally scaled down versions of whatever style was current. 6 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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