RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2020 15 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: There was the boiler tank and fuel tank with boiler tanks later getting replaced by long range fuel tanks etc, so some variations. As we previously said, we're going all out on these. They will attach with a screw. As you can see removable weights are in the tanks for better traction. Cheers! Fran IIRC all 37s were built with fuel and boiler water tanks ... even those that were originally Built as NB locos. Wasn’t the intent to fit boilers in all .... but then they were deemed to be a higher priority for Brush 4s and got transferred to that production line? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroborus Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 When you come to do 37026, Shapfell, is it possible to double check the colour of the headcode boxes at either end? Shapfell ended her days at Wigan and there is a lot of media of her here. As far as I can determine, Shapfell had black indicator boxes at one end and yellow at the other. Seems odd, but I can't find footage of her in grey livery without these mismatched boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Walker Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 08:15, Roy Langridge said: To save you having to do that modelling, I could sell you an Accurascale one for £169.99 Roy Problem is Roy, I have one on order from Accurascale and so do not want two. Plus, once I have the one from Accurascale I can do a bit of modelling make one or two myself. Thanks for the offer though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted December 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tony Walker said: Problem is Roy, I have one on order from Accurascale and so do not want two. Plus, once I have the one from Accurascale I can do a bit of modelling make one or two myself. Thanks for the offer though! I meant just the radar unit (was jesting) Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Ouroborus said: When you come to do 37026, Shapfell, is it possible to double check the colour of the headcode boxes at either end? Shapfell ended her days at Wigan and there is a lot of media of her here. As far as I can determine, Shapfell had black indicator boxes at one end and yellow at the other. Seems odd, but I can't find footage of her in grey livery without these mismatched boxes. Seemed to lose them in 1992. Black boxes were at the fan end, but are yellow in these (non-fan end also shown in same year): Then on both ends in 1995: 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, BR(S) said: Seemed to lose them in 1992. Black boxes were at the fan end, but are yellow in these (non-fan end also shown in same year): Then on both ends in 1995: All the above photos show 37026 with square HI headlights fitted, which later replaced the original round ScR Car type headlights. Can't find any photos of it with Black head code boxes (at either end) with Round type headlights fitted (in R/F Dist livery) The forthcoming Accurascale model would appear to be correct in this respect. Edited December 12, 2020 by tractor_37260 amend text 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroborus Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Many thanks to both of you for this helpful information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 What would the model of 37 have been in the Middlesbrough area in the early seventies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Paul Cram said: What would the model of 37 have been in the Middlesbrough area in the early seventies? Of those as built models currently on offer D6704 is the latest.... GSYP but does have data panel unlike D6702. But that is probably stretching it a bit.... and TOPs numbers started to appear 73/74 ..... If you added a data panel to D6702 and removed the D that would be later.... Edited December 12, 2020 by Phil Bullock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, Phil Bullock said: Of those as built models currently on offer D6704 is the latest.... GSYP but does have data panel unlike D6702. But that is probably stretching it a bit.... and TOPs numbers started to appear 73/74 ..... If you added a data panel to D6702 and removed the D that would be later.... Thanks for the reply but I an still non the wisser. Is D6704 one of the propsed Accurascale models? What is the data panel? GSYP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2020 36 minutes ago, Paul Cram said: Thanks for the reply but I an still non the wisser. Is D6704 one of the propsed Accurascale models? What is the data panel? GSYP? Sorry Paul. Yes it is . A data panel is the small blue panel which appears under the number on the accurascale D6702 ... carries data such as loco class, brake force, weight etc. And GSYP is a livery annotation - Green Small Yellow Pane. GFYE - Green Full Yellow End Hope that helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted December 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 14:36, Accurascale Fran said: We are thinking of doing it like those magazines. 2000 issues for just 5.99 to build your own 37.... DCC sound extra....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Phil Bullock said: Sorry Paul. Yes it is . A data panel is the small blue panel which appears under the number on the accurascale D6702 ... carries data such as loco class, brake force, weight etc. And GSYP is a livery annotation - Green Small Yellow Pane. GFYE - Green Full Yellow End Hope that helps Ah yes but my recollection is that they were blue not green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2020 In which case you want 37003 .... TOPs number displaying headcodes, 73 to 76. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Ouroborus said: When you come to do 37026, Shapfell, is it possible to double check the colour of the headcode boxes at either end? Shapfell ended her days at Wigan and there is a lot of media of her here. As far as I can determine, Shapfell had black indicator boxes at one end and yellow at the other. Seems odd, but I can't find footage of her in grey livery without these mismatched boxes. Better still could you consider selling packs of different style headcode boxes so we can customise them ? For the earlier ones, making it easy to change the headcode reporting numbers would be appreciated. Edited December 13, 2020 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted December 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2020 Little packs of numbers will be supplied with relevant models just like Deltic. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 All the above detail is looking absolutely amazing and I cannot wait to receive my 3 that I have on preorder - but, I can’t help but think about the lighting. In the respect of colour and intensity. I’ll add a photo below but mentioning a certain class 66, the detail is superb yet let down by the lighting (on all variants) in colour and intensity. It amazes me that manufacturers go through so much time and effort to produce so much body detail yet to me let down by a simple but such important part such as the lights. For me, it just ruins the entire look of the loco. Looks very realistic all detailed and weathered up sat in a siding or goods shed then as soon as you switch on the lighting, it instantly looks like a toy train (yes I know that’s what they are but we are all looking for that extra realism nowadays) So, what I’m asking and looking for is weather your 37’s will blow us away with the most prototypical lighting we’ve ever seen! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, Shoey said: All the above detail is looking absolutely amazing and I cannot wait to receive my 3 that I have on preorder - but, I can’t help but think about the lighting. In the respect of colour and intensity. I’ll add a photo below but mentioning a certain class 66, the detail is superb yet let down by the lighting (on all variants) in colour and intensity. I agree completely, and whilst we haven’t seen what AS have to offer, you’re right in that the aforementioned 66 model, and virtually all of the diesels released by the 'Red Team' (also beginning with H) didn’t get it right. It’s a tricky subject because it’s mainly governed by the LEDs used, which in today's models are surface mount diodes (SMD). These are available in cool white (think Hornby), warm white or yellow. Bachmann went some way to doing it 'right' on their 37s/47s etc using yellow and white LEDs/SMDs, but the colour tone was still dubious. I imagine it'd be difficult to find a solution for a manufacturer that's easy to implement and not costly - could a dye in the plastic used to mould the light guides be an option? Often manufacturers use red/pink for tail light guides and just clear for any white lights, but a subtle yellow hue might help give the correct shade. Just a thought! In any case, most models use chassis-mounted LEDs and body-mounted light guides, or body-mounted lights as well as guides with pickups (plunger or sprung) to the chassis, so there's always room to add a wash of yellow paint or a small square of masking tape (in white or yellow and varying thickness/layers) to the light guides to achieve a better hue. If you get it right the results speak for themselves, and (especially masking tape) is easy to remove/redo should you want to. Of course, for the price point of current locos this may seem daunting for some, but a little m*delling can be done by the consumer to sort the issue. Jack. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted December 13, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, Shoey said: All the above detail is looking absolutely amazing and I cannot wait to receive my 3 that I have on preorder - but, I can’t help but think about the lighting. In the respect of colour and intensity. I’ll add a photo below but mentioning a certain class 66, the detail is superb yet let down by the lighting (on all variants) in colour and intensity. It amazes me that manufacturers go through so much time and effort to produce so much body detail yet to me let down by a simple but such important part such as the lights. For me, it just ruins the entire look of the loco. Looks very realistic all detailed and weathered up sat in a siding or goods shed then as soon as you switch on the lighting, it instantly looks like a toy train (yes I know that’s what they are but we are all looking for that extra realism nowadays) So, what I’m asking and looking for is weather your 37’s will blow us away with the most prototypical lighting we’ve ever seen! Hi @Shoey, As I explained on the Class 92 thread regarding lighting we are putting a lot of effort in this area on our locos including the Class 37 too. Cheers! Fran 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi @Shoey, As I explained on the Class 92 thread regarding lighting we are putting a lot of effort in this area on our locos including the Class 37 too. Cheers! Fran Thank you for your reply Fran, brilliant! Say no more. I have every confidence in all at Accurascale that you will be raising the bar at the highest we have seen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted December 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) Hi Fran, Do you have an approximate arrival date of when the first batch will hopefully start to appear? As mine is nearly paid for, just starting to drool at the thought of getting my grubby mitts on it Edited December 14, 2020 by jools1959 Typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted December 14, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, jools1959 said: Hi Fran, Do you have an approximate arrival date of when the first batch will hopefully start to appear? As mine is nearly paid for, just starting to drool at the thought of getting my grubby mitts on it Hi Jools, As per our last update it's Q2 2021 https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/class-37-project-update We post project updates under the "What's New" tab which gives delivery dates of every in progress project, so always worth a look! Though we do have some new 37 news coming very soon! Cheers, Fran 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2020 45 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi Jools, As per our last update it's Q2 2021 https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/class-37-project-update We post project updates under the "What's New" tab which gives delivery dates of every in progress project, so always worth a look! Though we do have some new 37 news coming very soon! Cheers, Fran Is that the thrash of a pair of D66xx on the Waterston - Albion tanks I hear in the distance? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Accurascale Fran Posted December 15, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 Hi everyone, Welcome to Tractor Tuesday, where we reveal the first tooling sample of our Class 37! We received a bundle of parts from the factory recently for inspection and cobbled together a first sample to show you here. Of course, there are still plenty of parts missing, and overall fit and finish will be improved on production models, but so far, so tasty! For more pics and more info, check out our latest blog! https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/a-first-look-at-our-class-37 Cheers! Fran 38 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi everyone, Welcome to Tractor Tuesday, where we reveal the first tooling sample of our Class 37! We received a bundle of parts from the factory recently for inspection and cobbled together a first sample to show you here. Of course, there are still plenty of parts missing, and overall fit and finish will be improved on production models, but so far, so tasty! For more pics and more info, check out our latest blog! https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/a-first-look-at-our-class-37 Cheers! Fran Very first impression: it has more of a "presence" than the Bachmann model and nice to see there's no large gap between bogies and body. 3 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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