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2 hours ago, Trevor Hammond said:

It is but I have never been able to remove the coal load from my A4 tenders. 

Just because you can’t remove them doesn’t mean they aren’t removable. 

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On 10/08/2022 at 08:45, palmsticks said:

Thank you.  Extra plumbing would be for seperate feed for the injector, I think on RHS on the back of the backhead instead of coming off the central manifold.  No worries on the picture.

Looks like the standard A4 cab backhead to me. 

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The tender tooling will be new for the W1 even though it's the same type as a previous model. It will probably be a replica of the old tooling but specifically for use on the W1

 

I've seen previously that this is to account for if tooling moves between different factories. It means all the tooling for a model stays together. 

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1 hour ago, Pre Grouping fan said:

The tender tooling will be new for the W1 even though it's the same type as a previous model. It will probably be a replica of the old tooling but specifically for use on the W1

 

I've seen previously that this is to account for if tooling moves between different factories. It means all the tooling for a model stays together. 

 

Agree; it is new tooling compared to any of the A4 tenders that I've got.  The lamp irons are different, for example, and also the vacuum standpipe on the rear.

 

The coal load is removable; like a lot of similar models it might be a tight fit but can be levered out by inserting a knife blade down one side (or end) and prising it out.

 

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I have received the late-crest model of 60700 today, excellent service from Kernow Models who made me aware they were receiving some after I had expressed an interest when these were first announced.

The green is a much better colour than the A2/2-3 pacifics, as these photos will hopefully show.

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Please ignore the thumbmark on the tender, my fault, should have worn cotton gloves!

One point to be aware of when handling the model is the very fine shaped wire on the lhs which follows the contour of the running plate. It is very susceptible to detaching if picked up,(ask me how I know).

All in all a good model.

Cheers from Oz,

Peter C.

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On 11/08/2022 at 08:21, Hilux5972 said:

Looks like the standard A4 cab backhead to me. 

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I think the backhead is also new, an A4 for comparison:20220817_223739.jpg.7e30c56d7628bfacccc469b6a4c4d94c.jpg

The W1 backhead has some extra pipework (highlighted below), are these the injectors? The reverser position indicator and mantlepiece also look much finer on the W1.

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On 10/08/2022 at 11:19, Coldgunner said:

I thought the loco had electric headlamps and that they were fixed to the loco?

 

I noticed in the new Sam'sTrains review (just there for the images!) that there seems to be extra detail around the bufferbeam on the double chimney release:

 

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On the prototype there appear to be wires running from this to the lamps, perhaps they actually were electric?

 

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Apologies for triple post - W1 on the brain today!

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8 minutes ago, AdamOrmorod said:

 

I noticed in the new Sam'sTrains review (just there for the images!) that there seems to be extra detail around the bufferbeam on the double chimney release:

 

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On the prototype there appear to be wires running from this to the lamps, perhaps they actually were electric?

 

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(image cropped from Rail Advent)

 

Apologies for triple post - W1 on the brain today!

That rang a bell so I reached for the RCTS Locomotives of the LNER.

 

Indeed 10000 was fitted with a Stone's steam turbo generator, and standard headlights, converted to electric operation, were placed on the existing lamp irons in the usual manner, and then plugged into the appropriate socket, which were provided adjacent to each lamp iron.  The generator was located below the cab floorboards on the fireman's side, and also provided power for cab dial illumination.

 

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11 hours ago, AdamOrmorod said:

Looks like the chimney might need pushing down a bit?

You are/were correct! However, the chimney is not plastic as per the A2/2-3, but a metal casting that has a spigot that passes through the body and is tapped at the end for the body retaining screw. I removed the body from the chassis and managed to separate the chimney casting (and whistle). It appears that a little too much glue had been used which prevented the casting seating properly. A few strokes with a file it now sits flush.

Cheers from Oz,

Peter C.

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FWIW, I was resigned to missing out on the W1 when Hattons cancelled my pre-order, and I couldn't get one anywhere else. Imagine my surprise therefore when a Hornby ad for the W1 appeared on my Facebook feed - I've ordered and received an R3979 double-chimney version.

 

It appears to be fully intact, so it's now being put away as Mrs. ZG's Christmas present to me. She's delighted, normally she has no idea what to get me :-).

 

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3 hours ago, DonnyRailMan said:

20221020_155338.jpg.3348d8b6b593c40b9edecd7ebf85d23a.jpgDose anyone know why W1 Hush Hush as got three different R Numbers R30126 R 3840 R3979

 

 



Trying to milk the tooling greater than the demand that exists. We may see too many made and on the shelves for an age.

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18 minutes ago, adb968008 said:

Trying to milk the tooling greater than the demand that exists. We may see too many made and on the shelves for an age.

 

1 hour ago, Johan DC said:

Not in that order: single chimney, double chimney, smoke deflector/lift 

 Was just wondering what difference would be because there isn't a Railroad version  YET.

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12 hours ago, DonnyRailMan said:

 

 Was just wondering what difference would be because there isn't a Railroad version  YET.

I don't think they'll make a Railroad version. As said above, they made every possible version, and even some fictive ones.

Some are sold out, but I think the last version (with the lifting cowl) and some of the rebuilt versions, will be around a longer time.

So keep an eye out for bargain bins etc.

 

 

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On 21/10/2022 at 19:45, DonnyRailMan said:

Is there a sound chip for W1 yet TTS or any other yet.20221020_155338.jpg.f12ef6e47912f65f9f775067f84f1c80.jpg

 

 

I've got one of the decoders from R&R fitted to my rebuilt one, and it's fantastic. I think it's their own sound file too. Nice and easy to fit into the tender chamber too with the groove for the wires  in the weight now. 

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3 hours ago, D3489gibson said:

 

 

I've got one of the decoders from R&R fitted to my rebuilt one, and it's fantastic. I think it's their own sound file too. Nice and easy to fit into the tender chamber too with the groove for the wires  in the weight now. 

Cheer's for that I use their seeker's I will have a look. And I remember seeing R & Rs video with W1 now you mention it.

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