RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2022 Well heres my five… My old kit one has stood up well here, dimensionally matches the rtr model. Just a quick question, wasnt the red one supposed to come with Francis nameplates ? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Just a quick question, wasnt the red one supposed to come with Francis nameplates ? it’s not on the spec list and I just had the promised etch works plates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted November 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: Well heres my five… My old kit one has stood up well here, dimensionally matches the rtr model. Just a quick question, wasnt the red one supposed to come with Francis nameplates ? What's the origin of the kit? Edited November 20, 2022 by Captain Kernow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinJames Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 hours ago, PaulRhB said: it’s not on the spec list and I just had the promised etch works plates. Interestingly, Rails has Victory listed as coming with "Etched works plates fret with all 10 works numbers" which may be old/inaccurate information. I plan on ordering a proper numbered works plates from LRS though for the ROD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted November 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Captain Kernow said: What's the origin of the kit? Centre Models IIRC 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Captain Kernow said: What's the origin of the kit? Unfortunately I dont know, this one I bought completed already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted November 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, AustinJames said: Interestingly, Rails has Victory listed as coming with "Etched works plates fret with all 10 works numbers" which may be old/inaccurate information. I plan on ordering a proper numbered works plates from LRS though for the ROD. The original intention was to do a fret of 10 works numbers (as the 7mm Minerva Victory comes with) but after doing some tests we felt the difference wasn't really discernible enough. If anyone would like to try a specific works number drop me a PM and I can sort something out. FRANCIS nameplates are probably best served by the Serif B style from Light Railway Stores and don't forget you have a custom etch discount code in the notes. https://www.lightrailwaystores.co.uk/products/npp-105 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: Unfortunately I dont know, this one I bought completed already. If it's a kit it'll be the CSP/Centre Models one. Edited November 20, 2022 by cornelius 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 My green loco arrived just before we had to go to Anglesey for a Christening, so I didn't have chance for a proper look, but since we got back, wow! An absolutely fantastic model, and such a wonderful canvas for some customisation! The extra tool boxes are a lovely touch (and they won't all find their way onto this loco, but will elsewhere I'm sure!) So, with the tool boxes in mind, I set to work investigating where a couple could go. Using a bit of scrap plasticard, I've fabricated a shelf for the back of the cab, with a couple of toolboxes on, and I dare say a few other items may end up on there. I did however not take into account the handbrake standard, so will have to make a couple of adjustments! A ModelU crew will appear in due course, along with some nameplates, red coupling rods and a bit of light weathering which should finish it off nicely. Very much looking forward to the sound chip arriving in due course, and the worksplates (which were missing from the box) So tempted by a second one for a Lambton conversion! Cheers J 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, cornelius said: The original intention was to do a fret of 10 works numbers (as the 7mm Minerva Victory comes with) but after doing some tests we felt the difference wasn't really discernible enough. If anyone would like to try a specific works number drop me a PM and I can sort something out. FRANCIS nameplates are probably best served by the Serif B style from Light Railway Stores and don't forget you have a custom etch discount code in the notes. https://www.lightrailwaystores.co.uk/products/npp-105 If it's a kit it'll be the CSP/Centre Models one. Thanks, not one for being chastised unjustly ! I decided to re-check my facts, especially as others are piling in… 28th July 2021 09:41 i recieved an email newsletter titled WORKS NOTICE / 015 in it, it stated… No need to apologise if things change, thats ok, I have not recieved a discount code either for the nameplates. its not an issue, but I knew I didnt imagine it. Edited November 21, 2022 by adb968008 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 hours ago, adb968008 said: I have not recieved a discount code either for the nameplates. You'll find this on the bottom left corner of the back of the instruction sheet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 I’ll just leave this here - fresh from prototyping the first test print of the Lambton cut down cab conversion… Come and see it in the flesh at Warley this weekend! Stand A12, opposite Kernow. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted November 23, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, James Hilton said: I’ll just leave this here - fresh from prototyping the first test print of the Lambton cut down cab conversion… Come and see it in the flesh at Warley this weekend! Stand A12, opposite Kernow. gimme 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted November 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, James Hilton said: I’ll just leave this here - fresh from prototyping the first test print of the Lambton cut down cab conversion… Come and see it in the flesh at Warley this weekend! Stand A12, opposite Kernow. Presumably, the chimney and dome will require shortening / replacing to conform to the restricted cab profile. Having been at Sunderland Polytechnic at the relevant period, I can vouch for the confined nature of the tunnel that gave access to the coal loading staithes. CJI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, James Hilton said: I’ll just leave this here - fresh from prototyping the first test print of the Lambton cut down cab conversion… Come and see it in the flesh at Warley this weekend! Stand A12, opposite Kernow. See you Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Presumably, the chimney and dome will require shortening / replacing to conform to the restricted cab profile. Having been at Sunderland Polytechnic at the relevant period, I can vouch for the confined nature of the tunnel that gave access to the coal loading staithes. CJI. Yes a little, from the pics of the original I've seen, both were slightly shorter, but still the tallest feature(s) of the loco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted November 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2022 Yeah they are certainly not significantly shortened - presumably the restriction was in the corners of the loading gauge rather than the overall height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, cornelius said: Yeah they are certainly not significantly shortened - presumably the restriction was in the corners of the loading gauge rather than the overall height. Egg shaped tunnel I believe. 29, 5, and any others I've pictured, still had (relatively) tall chimneys. Would you like me to check the drawings I've got for chimney height vs the cab height and cab curvature? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted November 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Paul_sterling said: Egg shaped tunnel I believe. 29, 5, and any others I've pictured, still had (relatively) tall chimneys. Would you like me to check the drawings I've got for chimney height vs the cab height and cab curvature? https://images.app.goo.gl/eYVehsUe6YhbtpLG8 CJI. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Okay, so from my drawings, no.5 is 155" tall to chimney top, and 140.5" to cab roof top. 29 is 154" to chimney top, and 142" to the top of its cab. The cab is 51.75" radius about the boiler centreline. Victory is 153.75" to top of chimney. According to LLT, victory no. 41 was 12'10 tall, which is 51.33mm in 4mm scale, vs PI victory at 51.25mm, so if it was shortened, it probably werent on the chimney. Dome might have had a chop down mind. It was tall shouldered. 41 was a camera shy sod in comparison to 5 and 29 and the austerities, so difficult to say for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted November 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2022 50 minutes ago, Paul_sterling said: Egg shaped tunnel I believe. 29, 5, and any others I've pictured, still had (relatively) tall chimneys. Would you like me to check the drawings I've got for chimney height vs the cab height and cab curvature? Thanks Paul, any info you can provide will be much appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, cctransuk said: https://images.app.goo.gl/eYVehsUe6YhbtpLG8 CJI. Thanks, I've seen that pic before. It's a great article though David does note he used an Austerity as the profile example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted November 23, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) RCTS have a pretty good photo of 41, the chimney looks about right height-wise to me although it is the tapered rather than straight sided type, think the capuchon is a bit smaller. Edited November 23, 2022 by Corbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, Corbs said: RCTS have a pretty good photo of 41, the chimney looks about right height-wise to me although it is the tapered rather than straight sided type, think the capuchon is a bit smaller. From this pic (and one on RmWeb "60s industrial steam" page 3), I believe that the lambton victory used the same cab methodology as no.29, I.e the cab profile was a radius about the boiler centreline. Thanks. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just bagged this during eBay power hour £88 after various nectar and TopCashback promotions ill Be honest and say I didn’t know anything about this loco until a couple of weeks back when I stumbled on this thread, I really like the look of the red one but I wasn’t going to turn this one down for the price! looking forward to receiving it in due course and running on my heritage line 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hilton Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 Great result! Hope you enjoy it when it arrives, tell all your friends! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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