Covid - coming out of Lockdown 3 - no politics, less opinion and more facts and information.

[APOLLO]

The next variant is pi, it is bound to mutate in Wigan, perhaps gravy will be an effective vaccine. I'm buying shares in Bisto in't morning  !!!!

 

 

The syringe looks both tasty & painfull. 

 

Next slide please, Here's the full Greek alphabet, so you can be ahead of the naming game. 

alpha,
beta,
gamma,
delta,
epsilon,
zeta,
eta,
theta,
iota,
kappa,
la(m)bda,
mu,
nu,
xi,
omicron,
pi,
rho,
sigma,
tau,
upsilon,
phi,
chi,
psi,
omega

 

Brit15

[PenrithBeacon]

https://www.who.int/emergencies/emergency-health-kits/trauma-emergency-surgery-kit-who-tesk-2019/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants

Might be of interest. 

[Hroth]

40 minutes ago, APOLLO said:

The next variant is pi, it is bound to mutate in Wigan, perhaps gravy will be an effective vaccine. I'm buying shares in Bisto in't morning  !!!!

 

 

The syringe looks both tasty & painfull. 

 

Next slide please, Here's the full Greek alphabet, so you can be ahead of the naming game. 

alpha,
beta,
gamma,
delta,
epsilon,
zeta,
eta,
theta,
iota,
kappa,
la(m)bda,
mu,
nu,
xi,
omicron,
pi,
rho,
sigma,
tau,
upsilon,
phi,
chi,
psi,
omega

 

Brit15

Or, as they print on Oxbridge dining society menus

 

Eta Beta Pi

 

Allegedly....

 

[MarkC]

They overlooked Xi, apparently for fear of offending the head honcho of the CCP.

 

Given where it all started, I thought it would have been quite apposite...

[Hroth]

6 minutes ago, MarkC said:

They overlooked Xi, apparently for fear of offending the head honcho of the CCP.

 

Given where it all started, I thought it would have been quite apposite...

Also, it'd be all Greek to them.... 

[Ron Ron Ron]

10 hours ago, APOLLO said:

 

......Next slide please, Here's the full Greek alphabet, so you can be ahead of the naming game. 

alpha,
beta,
gamma,
delta,
epsilon,
zeta,
eta,
theta,
iota,
kappa,
la(m)bda,
mu,
nu,
xi,
omicron,
pi,
rho,
sigma,
tau,
upsilon,
phi,
chi,
psi,
omega

 

 

 

It's when we get to Psi  we know the pressure really will be on.

 

 

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[beast66606]

Anyone noticed that omicron is an anagram of moronic - just saying.

[Zero Gravitas]

14 minutes ago, beast66606 said:

Anyone noticed that omicron is an anagram of moronic - just saying.

 

As in: “In the current situation, it would be moronic not to wear a mask in any crowded or indoor public spaces”?

[PenrithBeacon]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/28/what-does-appearance-of-omicron-mean-for-the-double-jabbed

[adb968008]

R number of 13 in enclosed spaces ?

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/portugal-13-omicron-coronavirus-cases-football-club-belenenses/

 

must be highly transmissive for 13 players to catch it from 1 individual.

I recall SA saying many of the cases were from a single cluster in school.
 

If there was 13 on those two flights, it would be interesting to see what state the rest of the passengers are in a few days / weeks.

[John M Upton]

Six cases in Scotland now.  Seems obvious to me that this thing landed here a lot longer than just a couple of days ago, we just weren't scanning for it.

[woodenhead]

35 minutes ago, John M Upton said:

Six cases in Scotland now.  Seems obvious to me that this thing landed here a lot longer than just a couple of days ago, we just weren't scanning for it.

Apparently with no travel link, so they have been infected within the UK

[beast66606]

There's no evidence to suggest Omicron is more severe than Delta BUT more research needed to confirm / deny.

 

 

[Dunsignalling]

11 minutes ago, beast66606 said:

There's no evidence to suggest Omicron is more severe than Delta BUT more research needed to confirm / deny.

 

 

Or any concrete evidence that it's not.

 

So, until we can be sure it's not more dangerous, it's prudent to assume the worst and act/plan accordingly.

 

John

Edited November 29, 2021 by Dunsignalling

[Dunsignalling]

9 minutes ago, woodenhead said:

Apparently with no travel link, so they have been infected within the UK

According to scientist on The World at One (R4) probably up to 2 weeks ago, because at least one that's caught it hadn't been in direct contact with anyone who had come in from anywhere in southern Africa.

Edited November 29, 2021 by Dunsignalling

[John M Upton]

The problem is, most will focus on the "it's not more dangerous" bit.  The trouble all along has been selective reading by those who only look for key bits, often out of context to justify their point of view and/or adherence or ignoring of the rules.

[Dunsignalling]

1 minute ago, John M Upton said:

The problem is, most will focus on the "it's not more dangerous" bit.  The trouble all along has been selective reading by those who only look for key bits, often out of context to justify their point of view and/or adherence or ignoring of the rules.

So far it only seems to be "we don't think it is".

 

Anything more definite (either way) is a fortnight away.

[John M Upton]

"We don't think it is..." a.k.a. We don't know but we had better say something I suppose....

[Chrisr40]

 

Very apt I thought.

[beast66606]

8 minutes ago, John M Upton said:

"We don't think it is..." a.k.a. We don't know but we had better say something I suppose....

 

a.k.a if they hadn't said anything I'd have moaned about that too

[John M Upton]

The Unions are starting to thump the tubs...

https://www.therailwayhub.co.uk/61794/train-drivers-will-be-left-with-angry-customers-who-will-not-wear-masks/

 

Apparently all we need to do is recruit 20,000 new BTP officers, get them trained and out enforcing by tomorrow morning...

[Andy Hayter]

As said above the it is dangerous to rely on it's no more dangerous than delta.  That is one piece of information.

 

If as being suggested it is significantly more transmissible than delta, then we will have a big problem.

 

So yes the percentage of people being infected that need hospitalisation will not change but with higher transmissibility they will hit the hospitals in a much bigger wave.

[Nearholmer]

Indeed.

 

In fact, it’s possible to conceive of a variant that is less deadly, but actually results in 

more deaths, if it transmits so easily that health systems are completely swamped in short order, and can’t save people who they otherwise would.

 

So far, we are ignorant. I’m not sure it’s bliss, though.

[APOLLO]

Ahh well - Covid,

 

The only thing ever manufactured in China that comes with a lifetime guarantee.

 

Stay safe & mask up.

 

Brit15

 

 

[adb968008]

1 hour ago, Andy Hayter said:

As said above the it is dangerous to rely on it's no more dangerous than delta.  That is one piece of information.

 

If as being suggested it is significantly more transmissible than delta, then we will have a big problem.

 

So yes the percentage of people being infected that need hospitalisation will not change but with higher transmissibility they will hit the hospitals in a much bigger wave.

Whilst South Africas testing data is way too small to get an accurate picture, you cannot ignore the number of folk ending up in hospital…

 

Yesterday 18 admissions, (2232 in hospital)

27th 30 / 2229

26th 60/ 2211

25th 98 / 2172

24th 53 / 2106

23rd not published.

22nd 37 / 2715

…

17th 48 / 3517

 

 

The trend over the past month has been a reduction in hospital admissions.

https://www.nicd.ac.za/media/alerts/
 

Given the variants spread todate across Africa, its safe to assume Omnicron is more than a few weeks old.