RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted April 19, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2011 'Normal' Wessex (W&W) would do for me Charlie. I'll go with the flow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 'Normal' Wessex (W&W) would do for me Charlie. I'll go with the flow! At the Bristol Show you can touch one! And the Class 144 too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Class 143 Samples arrived this morning as arranged, 144 to follow! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 And another! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Charlie WOW! Looks a very impressive model. To look at you who would have thought youd have this in you! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted April 20, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2011 Ooohhhhh - pretty! That really does make the Hornby 142 look - well, like a toy (I'm being nice here). Very impressive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Charlie WOW! Looks a very impressive model. To look at you who would have thought youd have this in you! Ian We are trying to get it right! I am sure certain things will not please some people but the cost is 'Lots', but I like it and we have, based on the sample, various minor mods to do. The 143 is quite different in minor details to a 144 and some compromise here is required without doing a 100% completely different bodyshell. The differences we ARE doing are: Correct bufferbeams & front footsteps (Both different on the 143 to a 144) Different seating layout on both classes. Correct underfloor & battery box detailing. Different dampers on axleboxes. Radio roofpod modifications for 144. As you cannot see! both cars have different roofs, one with toilets & removeable panels and one with the old 'cab to shore' radio equipment fitted, including additional curved strengthening panel. Both cabs come with fire extinguisher & telephone consol, the carriage interior has seating and NO visible motor, working bi-directional lighting and will have our 'unique'constant dc interior lights. We have put alot of effort into our 'First' dmu, as we have to make an impression in todays market, cut out all the hype, but thats not cheap, our profit levels on this are low and at £100.00 we think that a 'Cracking Price', look at Heljans 'Waggon & Macheninbau' railbus. And it not to the 'REALTRACK' specification. Our second DMU, which is being worked on now will be equally as impressive, and hopefully not very much more! Please support us, as we need to do odd ball things st stay clear of the Big Boys. Charlie. PPS The new wagon will be good too! And less than 18 months away. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Mmm, I think I'll have to incure some penalty points on my modellers licence to find a way to get one of these for my layout which is well out of their operating sphere! Can you be persuaded to do an EMU? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Mmm, I think I'll have to incure some penalty points on my modellers licence to find a way to get one of these for my layout which is well out of their operating sphere! Can you be persuaded to do an EMU? NO! but you can offer suggestions? use: customerservices@realtrackmodels.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Flynn Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Wow looking good Hopefully my red/cream metro rail destination Leeds/Knottingley will be here shortly? Well i can only keep asking. Hugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Looks very impressive, might have to stretch to 2 rather than 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Looks very impressive, might have to stretch to 2 rather than 1. We have numbered them in periods: IE 2 X Northern Night Blue as operating today as 2008-2012 era 2 X Northern (Blue & Red & Silver Metro) as mid to late 2000-2010 era 2 X Arriva/Northern Red & Silver Metro) as early to mid 2000-2010 era Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I'll take 'em both in Night Blue =) some compromise here is required Any chance of highlighting the compromises? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncy Bouncy Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Looks very impressive, might have to stretch to 2 rather than 1. Couldn't agree more. The samples look absolutley fantastic, and can't wait to see the finished product! Not to mention let one loose on my layout to bounce around! Elliott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Now the sun shines on the Class 143 samples! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryHN Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 That model is looking so nice, Can't wait to have one on its way to Australia!!!!! Keep up the great work and looking forward to the next model! Have you thought of selling some unpainted for people to paint in there own colours??? Gary in Tas! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
59004 ( was Shedcombe....) Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Charlie / Arran, Have you thought about supplying a coupling bar, mimicing two coupled BSI's, that can be used in exchange of the standard BSI's, in case of running in multiple ? Would be a shame to need to do away with the BSI's, and find another, but obviously visible, solution. One could permanently alter two BSI's so they can be glued together, perhaps ? Regards, Michel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Unless the dummy BSI is mounted in a floating socket Michel, I think there might be some issues on corners with that setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Charlie WOW! Looks a very impressive model. To look at you who would have thought youd have this in you! Ian HI Ian Your right he didnt !!!!! but i did. Regards Arran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWJ Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Just seen this model in the flesh at York, and it looks great. Highlights for me are the seperately-fitted dampers (many recent RTR diesel locos still have these moulded as part of the bogie) and the seating (again, other RTR models often have a generic seat-shaped blob). With such attention to detail this model deserves to do really well. Mind-boggling that the mechanism can be hidden away on such a small vehicle, yet a much bigger, more established company had to fill a whole carriage with the power unit on their (longer) DMU! I'll add another request for the 3-car Class 144, if you're still looking into this, preferably in Metro red & cream (any variant). Cheers, Will PS. Realtrack must win the 2011 'Model Which is Far More Popular than the Real Thing' award. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I would definitely take a 3 car and a 2 car in original Metro red and cream. The pre-production models look fantastic. ROB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Very nice indded (even from the angles I'm used to seeing them at) I'm especially impressed to se the tca ariels and tanks modelled (roll on c4 over time work next month) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Both 144 & 143 in Regional is easy, but on the 144 which regional railways! BR or Arriva. On the West Yorkshire PTE Red & Cream, again easy but which era! Metro Train, Regional Railways, Arriva! You tell us! As for Provincial or Tyne & Wear PTE, thats a 143 issue only. Can we sell enough of the Tyne & Wear ones! Possibly not. Limited Edition (Another term for 'Rip off' normally). But to do 600 Tyne & Wear PTE ones in my opinion is far too many, as for provincial thats better but how are Trains 4U provincial 150s going! We have to be carefull here. I understand you being careful with regards to the different liveries that are out there. I think that small changes such as the lettering used for Regional Railways, Arriva, is a small change but its big enough when it affects the time era for the model in such a way. I would think that standard regional railways engines are the easiest to go for, as I dont think people would specifically model the area in a deliberate time period for Arriva Trains Northern opperation, when its just one TOC running at the time. The liveries of other units youd buy would overlap and so I dont think people would be that fussy generally. With regards the two ideas for a northern 143. Well... these are the earliest liveries to do, and so I guess would be people returning to the hobby or those wanting to specifically model that area and time. Id fall into the second group. The provincial and Tyne and Wear 143s were allocated to the North East branches such as the Tyne Valley, Durham Coast, Bishop to Saltburn, Darlington/Boro to Whitby and Newcastle to Morpeth/Alnwick. That makes scope of opperation all the more restricted as they arent exactly top billing for layouts of the time - but Ive always held the view if the companies make them then people model the areas the trains run. The Tyne and Wear one would be select but a great one to do - the added bonus is that if Regional and Arriva are two seperate liveries then you can have two for Tyne and wear as they did change the Tyne PTE logo when they were done. The provincial one would be perhaps the most smartest 143 to do but both would be a while as more pressing and recent units need to be done to get sales in for your company. So that leaves a 144 - and with a 3 car to come? ... Id add my name to that list as Id love one of them too. The model looks fantastic and is setting the standard by which all other new DMUs should be made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I understand you being careful with regards to the different liveries that are out there. I think that small changes such as the lettering used for Regional Railways, Arriva, is a small change but its big enough when it affects the time era for the model in such a way. I would think that standard regional railways engines are the easiest to go for, as I dont think people would specifically model the area in a deliberate time period for Arriva Trains Northern opperation, when its just one TOC running at the time. The liveries of other units youd buy would overlap and so I dont think people would be that fussy generally. With regards the two ideas for a northern 143. Well... these are the earliest liveries to do, and so I guess would be people returning to the hobby or those wanting to specifically model that area and time. Id fall into the second group. The provincial and Tyne and Wear 143s were allocated to the North East branches such as the Tyne Valley, Durham Coast, Bishop to Saltburn, Darlington/Boro to Whitby and Newcastle to Morpeth/Alnwick. That makes scope of opperation all the more restricted as they arent exactly top billing for layouts of the time - but Ive always held the view if the companies make them then people model the areas the trains run. The Tyne and Wear one would be select but a great one to do - the added bonus is that if Regional and Arriva are two seperate liveries then you can have two for Tyne and wear as they did change the Tyne PTE logo when they were done. The provincial one would be perhaps the most smartest 143 to do but both would be a while as more pressing and recent units need to be done to get sales in for your company. Thanks for that: The odd new picture for you! So that leaves a 144 - and with a 3 car to come? ... Id add my name to that list as Id love one of them too. The model looks fantastic and is setting the standard by which all other new DMUs should be made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted April 29, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2011 I'd like a 3 car 144 too. Very useful as often seen on York - Harrogate - Leeds services. Looks like a real treat of a model. Just wish one of the manufacturers would produce a working coupler which could be passed of as a representation of the BSI. The Tomix couple Dapol uses on there 156/153 DMU and the forthcoming 142 looks fine and works well too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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