RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2022 19 hours ago, VXDH92 said: Does anyone know if the cartic 4s in STVA would ever operate in combination with IPA wagons (such as those already made by Revolution)? There was definitely some overlap though the IPAs eventually largely replaced the Cartics. Here's a mixed (empty) car train going North on the WCML through Carlisle with a complete mix of car flats and then some cartic-4s (11:22 is the relevant part if it doesn't link correctly!): I'm sure Brian's (Fat Controller above) info is also right! Cheers Mike 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 The clearance between that train and the platfrom edge is remarkably tight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXDH92 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Revolution Mike said: There was definitely some overlap though the IPAs eventually largely replaced the Cartics. Here's a mixed (empty) car train going North on the WCML through Carlisle with a complete mix of car flats and then some cartic-4s (11:22 is the relevant part if it doesn't link correctly!): I'm sure Brian's (Fat Controller above) info is also right! Cheers Mike Cheers Mike, that's a great clip! Clearly did / could operate together then. Are those first wagons the modified single-deck cartic 4s? I couldn't clearly tell. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 14, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) Hello all, While browsing You Tube I came across this clip, which shows a single STVA Cartic-4 followed by sets of the flat twin IPAs already produced by Revolution (and, for those that did not pre-order, arriving at retailers in the next week or so.) The action is from 4:48 if it doesn't link correctly... cheers Ben A. Edited November 14, 2022 by Revolution Ben 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Revolution Ben said: Hello all, While browsing You Tube I came across this clip, which shows a single STVA Cartic-4 followed by sets of the flat twin IPAs already produced by Revolution (and arriving at retailers for those that didn't pre-order in the next week or so.) The action is from 4:48 if it doesn't link correctly... cheers Ben A. That's the outbound Longbridge/ Lonato 'Rover ' train; no Land-Rovers for the 'Gardia Finanzia' 'Dogna' or 'Vigile de Fuoco'' as far as I can see on this one. I saw one working, composed of STVA 4-wagon units, fully laden with camouflaged Defenders. The Land-Rover traffic was sufficiently important that some Cartic-4s had the upper deck, and the side pillars, removed to give extra capacity for taller vehicles. ( https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/P-Tops-codes/PJA-STVA-Cartic-4-single-level/ ) The Cartics weren't universally popular on the 'Italian Job'. Two-level ramps had to be used for loading and unloading, whereas the GEFCO/ STVA/MAT wagons had hinged upper decks which could be dropped to form ramps. This was important when attempts to back-load with Fiats were trialled. Also, they were restricted to 100 kph on the continent, against the 120 kph of the other types. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Express Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Some nice footage Ben, which no doubt will be invaluable to anyone deciding which set(s) to buy. If early bird is tempting enough, I may require an 'extra' set now - Stva Grey to go with my Grey IPAs...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXDH92 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) Hi Revolution guys, Not sure if I've misremembered this, but I seem to recall reading one of your recent updates saying that the order book should open by the end of this month for the OO cartics. Is that still hopefully the case? The projects section of the website still says 'order book expected to open when CAD complete' so I might have got my wires crossed! Would have spoken to you at Warley, but I was unable to attend this year. All the best (and thanks in advance)! Edited November 29, 2022 by VXDH92 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2022 6 hours ago, VXDH92 said: Hi Revolution guys, ...I seem to recall reading one of your recent updates saying that the order book should open by the end of this month for the OO cartics. Is that still hopefully the case? The projects section of the website still says 'order book expected to open when CAD complete' so I might have got my wires crossed! Would have spoken to you at Warley, but I was unable to attend this year. All the best (and thanks in advance)! Hi there, The Projects Page is correct. The CAD isn't completed yet; we will open the order book when it is. cheers Ben A. 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Beginning to look like we're not going to see the order book opening this year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 15, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: Beginning to look like we're not going to see the order book opening this year. Personally I'd rather it be right and late. Mike. 2 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXDH92 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Hi Revolution guys - are the order books near to opening for these yet? I remember you saying you had CAD changes to review a while back. Thanks in advance :) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted April 28, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2023 Hi there, Yes, it should be opening very soon. cheers Ben A. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troublesome Trucks Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Hello Ben & Mike,Can you advise on the length of a set please 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Patriot87003 Posted May 3, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2023 Looks like the order book is now open … https://revolutiontrains.com/product-category/pre-order/oogauge/cartic-4-oo-4mm/?fbclid=IwAR09wNqB5_UKsC7iYgEL4OT_TjbCXP6mOsz3X_HOziXI-R2dHikaYekNs28 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClikC Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Excellent, and now for some inspiration! 40132 Stafford 1974, from Andy Hoare Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted May 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Patriot87003 said: Looks like the order book is now open … https://revolutiontrains.com/product-category/pre-order/oogauge/cartic-4-oo-4mm/?fbclid=IwAR09wNqB5_UKsC7iYgEL4OT_TjbCXP6mOsz3X_HOziXI-R2dHikaYekNs28 Oooh 110 quid, that's quite a lot of train for your money, pleasantly surprised by that, I'm seriously tempted now. Edited May 3, 2023 by spamcan61 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 12 hours ago, Troublesome Trucks said: Hello Ben & Mike,Can you advise on the length of a set please 200' o/a; 800mm in 4 mm scale. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted May 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2023 Yeah , pleasantly surprised by price . Was going to go for one . Question is should I go for two now ! Suppose you have to figure in the cars for the load 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Legend said: Yeah , pleasantly surprised by price . Was going to go for one . Question is should I go for two now ! Suppose you have to figure in the cars for the load If they are on motorail duty, you would expect cars in both directions, perhaps only partly loaded, but if they are new cars for delivery, you would expect them to run fully loaded one way, empty the other. The choice of cars would be a motley collection on motorail but a lot all the same (perhaps differing by colour) for a shipment of new cars. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted May 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2023 Well I must say I've been very naughty this morning! The prices are ever so reasonable considering the amount of vehicle for your money. When these arrive my Didcot Parkway layout will be suitably well populated with the right level of automotive traffic! Keep up the great work lads! 👍 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Davidjsmith Posted May 3, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2023 I need 4mm Talbot/Chrysler Sunbeams in lots of colours!!Doubt I will get that don’t think the vSunbeam has been done? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted May 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, Davidjsmith said: I need 4mm Talbot/Chrysler Sunbeams in lots of colours!!Doubt I will get that don’t think the vSunbeam has been done? I remember seeing one at Elderslie , near the Chrysler Factory in Linwood (used to be Rootes, and Pressed Steel before that). It would have been Hillman Imps, Hunters and possibly Avengers back then ! Thats why I want one . I think it was a 37 pulling it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: The choice of cars would be a motley collection on motorail but a lot all the same (perhaps differing by colour) for a shipment of new cars. Certainly the same make, but it would depend on place and period. For example in the '70s Dagenham produced several Ford models. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 3, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2023 Well, I've ordered A & B, enough to be going on with until C & D come out! Mike. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Mixture of Silcock Express wagons with and without roof in same consist: 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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