RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted May 15, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2023 11 hours ago, VXDH92 said: FYI Ben - your website shows the early bird price ending 13th June (on the news page for the announcement of the OO Gauge Cartic order book opening). Got my order in early just in case that's not right. Would also back additional packs with different wagon numbers as per some others have requested. Appreciate that there's 2 x different numbers per version which is a good start 👍 Thanks! No - let me thank you! I have corrected my earlier misinformed post! cheers Ben 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClikC Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Fat Controller said: At that time, I believe there was a train run from Coventry to Linwood on behalf of Rootes Group. Unusually, it was loaded in both directions, carrying Hillman Imps (and derivatives) southbound, and returning with Avengers and Hunters. There was also traffic in components and body pressings in both directions, carried in Rootes' 30' containers. All the Gosford Green - Linwood services I've seen so far seem to be listed a Freightliner services, but I have been concentrating on services routed through the avoiding line, and so might have missed some services through the station for crew change. From Warwickshire Railways Closest I can find is this 1971 image of Brush Type 4 1842 (Later Class 47 47 192), which I guess is a big enough reason for me, 4S32 appears as 16:30 Gosford Green to Johnstone MWTO in the British Railways London Midland Region WTT Mandatory Train Services 07/05/1973 - 05/05/1974 Section Gp2. Regards 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted May 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2023 Ooops! My finger slipped and I seem to have ordered a few sets :) Andi 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc2016 Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 Hi, I have done some research on these wagons and found that the Silcock Versions runned so far as Exeter as was hoping that someone can answer a few questions i got: Is Exeter the Furthest South that Cartic-4s went? Is Silcock Express Cartic-4s the only ones to go to Exeter? How Long was they used on the Speedlink Service? Thanks in Advance, Samuel. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSkipworth Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 10 hours ago, sc2016 said: Hi, I have done some research on these wagons and found that the Silcock Versions runned so far as Exeter as was hoping that someone can answer a few questions i got: Is Exeter the Furthest South that Cartic-4s went? Is Silcock Express Cartic-4s the only ones to go to Exeter? How Long was they used on the Speedlink Service? Thanks in Advance, Samuel. Occasionally if the train got turned enroute it would continue to Plymouth and be turned on the triangle at Laira. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc2016 Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share Posted June 10, 2023 On 23/05/2023 at 09:24, RobSkipworth said: Occasionally if the train got turned enroute it would continue to Plymouth and be turned on the triangle at Laira. Thanks for replying back to me. Interesting that they did came further south. On 22/05/2023 at 22:35, sc2016 said: Hi, I have done some research on these wagons and found that the Silcock Versions runned so far as Exeter as was hoping that someone can answer a few questions i got: Is Silcock Express Cartic-4s the only ones to go to Exeter or beyond? How Long was they used on the Speedlink Service? Thanks in Advance, Samuel. If anybody could help on the two remaining questions i would be grateful. Samuel. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Express Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 On 22/05/2023 at 22:35, sc2016 said: Hi, I have done some research on these wagons and found that the Silcock Versions runned so far as Exeter as was hoping that someone can answer a few questions i got: Is Exeter the Furthest South that Cartic-4s went? Is Silcock Express Cartic-4s the only ones to go to Exeter? How Long was they used on the Speedlink Service? Thanks in Advance, Samuel. They are the only car carrier I ever saw at Exeter when on my holidays. As it was Silcock distribution, expect these were the only wagons they had. There were Motorails that went further, including FGW attempt with converted GUVs. I would have thought until the end, I certainly recall seeing them late on, with 50029 in NSE shunting them on one occasion! The two sidings were both certainly just long enough for one set! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Did these ever reach the northwest pre 68 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted July 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2023 16 hours ago, paul 27 said: Did these ever reach the northwest pre 68 Yes, the first Motorail service was 1966 from Kensington Olympia to Perth. By 68 there were all sorts of Motorail services including a terminal at Newton-le-willows with services to Stirling (N) and Newton Abbot (S). Beyond the Motorail use they were used on car delivery services throughout the 60s eg to Halewood in Liverpool. Cheers Mike 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc2016 Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share Posted July 26, 2023 On 10/06/2023 at 20:39, Torbay Express said: They are the only car carrier I ever saw at Exeter when on my holidays. As it was Silcock distribution, expect these were the only wagons they had. There were Motorails that went further, including FGW attempt with converted GUVs. I would have thought until the end, I certainly recall seeing them late on, with 50029 in NSE shunting them on one occasion! The two sidings were both certainly just long enough for one set! Hi Torbay Express, Thanks for replying, when looking for information it did seem to be just the Silcock Cartic4s that went as far as Exeter. I have seen the images of other motorail services which served locations further south of exeter. Thanks, Samuel. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 On 24/07/2023 at 16:37, Revolution Mike said: Yes, the first Motorail service was 1966 from Kensington Olympia to Perth. By 68 there were all sorts of Motorail services including a terminal at Newton-le-willows with services to Stirling (N) and Newton Abbot (S). Beyond the Motorail use they were used on car delivery services throughout the 60s eg to Halewood in Liverpool. Cheers Mike Thanks Mike, would love to see a picture of these heading to Halewood, only seen Ford trains using the carflats at this time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just found a picture not sure can show on here, the first Ford Car Train Dagenham to Halewood ran on 7/7/66 hauled by Class 47 D1768 with Cartics. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 On 12/11/2021 at 14:16, Revolution Mike said: Our understanding (or at least mine!) is that although the Cartics were developed with BR and Ford the majority weren't in Ford blue even those used on Ford trains (possibly only the prototypes which were slightly different anyway). We've got some of the original paint diagrams and none of them mention Ford blue. Hope that helps. Cheers Mike Mike, which is nearer to the so called Ford blue the Motorail or Mat versions. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted August 5, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 5, 2023 Hi Paul, The MAT versions were closer to Ford blue than BR blue. On the diagrams the colour is referred to as 'Onedin blue' but this reference is not one I have been able to find. We will be showing the deco samples of the N gauge decorated samples at The International N Gauge Show in Warwickshire in just over a month, so that should give people a good chance to assess the variations for themselves. cheers Ben A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Class 08, 08941, shunts a rake of four Silcock Express car carriers at Exeter St David's in 1986 (from 24:45): 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted August 8, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 8, 2023 Nice video - is it a rake of four though? Might it be a rake of one? Steven B 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Farkham Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I don't think my budget will allow me to replicate this working... https://youtu.be/E9tIMIY_6sM sorry i cant seem to embed the video from my phone 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meld Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 47 minutes ago, Lady_Farkham said: I don't think my budget will allow me to replicate this working... https://youtu.be/E9tIMIY_6sM sorry i cant seem to embed the video from my phone Wow!! 10 sets, plus a Queen Mary. Maybe half the prototype rake then Lucy!?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Those trains were regular through Leamington, 40 wagons was the norm. The Queen Mary brake van was apparently carrying BTP officers due to thefts from cars. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Lady_Farkham said: I don't think my budget will allow me to replicate this working... https://youtu.be/E9tIMIY_6sM sorry i cant seem to embed the video from my phone Don't think many of us have a big enough layout even if we had the budget! On most roundy-roundy layouts the train would be coupled to its own rear end before we got the tenth set on it ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted August 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2023 Looks like 4L43 Washwood Heath to Harwich Parkeston Quay. Was often booked for a crew change/swap with the corresponding empty working 4M34 at Reading in the small hours. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Patriot87003 Posted September 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2023 An update on the website has been published today and the EP1 samples look superb! https://revolutiontrains.com/fantastic-4-revolution-cartic-samples-in-00-and-n/?fbclid=IwAR2S_nyHsrGrt1BrYo57Tr8g6TmyTipXxPVzWQ3YRsX2Z_AEal65stgQUWA 6 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2023 Hello all, Patriot beat me to it, but yes there is an update on these on our website, now we have received decorated samples of the N gauge versions and EP1 running samples of them in 00. For those interested there are more images and information on our website News page. We will be closing the pre-order book on the N gauge ones in due course, and the 00 decorated samples may be here by Warley. cheers Ben A. 12 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted September 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2023 @Revolution Ben The video showing the Cartic's being tested doesn't play on either Chrome or Firefox. Can it be posted to YouTube? Or alternatively I'd be more than happy to try the N Gauge ones at at Yorkshire Area Group meeting - address via my Revolution Trains account! 😉 SB. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Steven B said: @Revolution Ben The video showing the Cartic's being tested doesn't play on either Chrome or Firefox. Can it be posted to YouTube? Or alternatively I'd be more than happy to try the N Gauge ones at at Yorkshire Area Group meeting - address via my Revolution Trains account! 😉 SB. Hi Steven That is odd - it works for me on Chrome! And does anyone still use Firefox?? No worries though - it is on YouTube here. For clarity these are the 00 ones though: cheers Ben A. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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