Guest Max Stafford Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Strange you should mention the Tyneside version. The sample at DEMU Showcase had the roof guard lookouts in the position as on the Tyneside version. I pointed this out to Backmann.Looks very good in all other respects. Cheers. Well, let's hope it's a portent of things to come. Might look good beside their J27 and Q6... Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold LH&JC Posted June 25, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2010 Well, let's hope it's a portent of things to come. Might look good beside their J27 and Q6... Dave. Your a wicked man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Looks like the standard close-coupling Mk1 configuration to me, Dogmatix. Plenty of plug in close couplers you can use there. If you're not dragging the units with a loco Kadee 19 or 20 will probably do you. Nice model, but not in my area of interest - unless they do the North Tyneside variant!(hint) Dave. Well, let's hope so, Dave, but in the picture it looks very much like the NEM pocket is moulded as part of the bogie frame, just like on the outer ends 4CEP. And this will be a pity, because there is plenty of scope for running 2EPBs in multiple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 24, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2010 Well I got a chance to look at the autoballasters, Stiva car carrier and Cement tank in the flesh today and they look superb. The blue on the autoballasters is going to be corrected as it was done to the specified RAL but naturally the paint shop for Railtracks builder did thier own thing! I think I'm going to need more sidings . . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Thought this might be of interest... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northants PC Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Ive ordered my set (5) already, roll on December?? when they are released. Northants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 Today was an opportunity to grab a few more shots of the 2EPB pre-prod. It was dangerously growing on me by the minute! The LNER steel-siders are belters. Only when I get home and look at the snap in full res can I actually say that the chain is part of the body moulding and not a separately applied part. Very convincing in the flesh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 That EPB is definitely a bit of a mongrel - the body from the main series with the roof detail from the Tyneside units (periscopes further back, with a cable running between them). It looks good though, mainly because it's sitting at the right height on it's bogies rather than several millimetres too high like most RTR coaches do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I'm one of those that can no longer tell the difference, so is the 2EPB 2mm or 4mm scale? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 26, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2010 Strange you should mention the Tyneside version. The sample at DEMU Showcase had the roof guard lookouts in the position as on the Tyneside version. I pointed this out to Backmann.Looks very good in all other respects. Cheers. I think these bogs ran on the South Tyneside section (turn right going out of Newcastle North end) - sorry! (Unless of course your model is of Central Station where they would be seen next to the North Tyneside Units!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Now if they could only do the actual North Tyneside artics that WOULD be cool! Whatever, the model looks really superb and what a boon for 3rd Rail SR bods. 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted July 26, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2010 I'm one of those that can no longer tell the difference, so is the 2EPB 2mm or 4mm scale? Hi 4mm I believe I wish it was 2. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Well, let's hope it's a portent of things to come. Might look good beside their J27 and Q6... With effort I've made with these two classes in the past, I hope they don't produce. Last thing I want is someone looking at a J26 I'm building from a Bradwell kit and ask me if it's a detailed Bachmann model!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Hi 4mm I believe I wish it was 2. Cheers Paul They're doing the 2EPB in 4mm scale so maybe they'll do a 4EPB in 2mm scale! No? I'll just slink back in to my hole then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 All my old Parkside kit opens are getting the treament as they will represent the damaged High Steels that were so frequent a sight. the 2EPB ... dangerously growing on me by the minute!... You and me both then. I am still trying to figure out how the layout plan can incorporate some NLR route running over, so that one of these can slide past periodically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 With effort I've made with these two classes in the past, I hope they don't produce. Last thing I want is someone looking at a J26 I'm building from a Bradwell kit and ask me if it's a detailed Bachmann model!!! I think I can live with your angst mate! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 So could I if it was a J21, or Q6 ... Those new pictures of the wagons look good. Why does one have round marks on the side of the wagon? Does this denote that its used for carrying a certain mineral? In any case, they all look good and will no doubt be popular.... but go on Bachmann you need a ex-NER machine on the front.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 So could I if it was a J21, or Q6 ... Those new pictures of the wagons look good. Why does one have round marks on the side of the wagon? Does this denote that its used for carrying a certain mineral? In any case, they all look good and will no doubt be popular.... but go on Bachmann you need a ex-NER machine on the front.... On the inside of the round marks- 'dimples'- were steel rings intended for use when chaining or tying down a load. There were some of these wagons dedicated to particular mineral traffics. Those for soda ash had an extra bar to secure the doors shut, whilst those for shingle traffic from the New Romney branch had the doors welded shut. They're splendid little models- I think my old Hornby-Dublo SD ones might finally be retired..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 ... Why does one have round marks on the side of the wagon? ... Each dimple accomodated a roping ring inside the body. Operational experience of the early examples without this feature revealed that unlike a wooden body where a nail knocked in provided a roping point, this was a significant lack in a steel bodied vehicle. Ah, FC beat me to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMafia Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 That 2-EPB looks great, what would the options be for a conversion to a 4-EPB? I suppose Bachmann could always have a go? Wasn't thinking of getting one (if they do NSE) as they were much more Kent and Sussex based units I believe, but saw a photograph yesterday of a 4-EPB paired with a CIG/VEP on a Waterloo - Weymouth! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 That 2-EPB looks great, what would the options be for a conversion to a 4-EPB? I suppose Bachmann could always have a go? In very broad terms the 2 car has a driving motor brake and a driving trailer, the 4 car has two driving motor brakes and two non-driving trailers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMafia Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I guess we'll have to wait and see if Bachmann will produce the variant (knowing Bachmann, unlikely) The light unit for the headcode display looks unusual, will be interesting to see what the result is. Working headcode blinds anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 That 2-EPB looks great, what would the options be for a conversion to a 4-EPB? I reckon you'd need 3 sets - the third set would provide compartments and non-driving ends (to replace the cabs on the two other driving trailers to turn them in to trailers) and plain bogie to replace the ones with shoebeam. Hack the interiors to suit, remove the roof cabling and change the underframe equipment to the later 1957 type (using Southern Pride bits) and you'd be there. The remains of the third set plus MJT etched sides would give a MLV to make sure the leftovers don't go to waste Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiff Bluebird Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Bachmann website shows the Autoballasters and Car Carriers as delivery in October. Cant wait! Bluebird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 3, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3, 2010 That EPB is definitely a bit of a mongrel - the body from the main series with the roof detail from the Tyneside units (periscopes further back, with a cable running between them). It looks good though, mainly because it's sitting at the right height on it's bogies rather than several millimetres too high like most RTR coaches do. The EPB does look good, but I do hope it's not too late for Bachmann to correct the roof detail. The periscope in particular is supposed to be above the guard's compartment and it looks very odd where it is. The guards compartment on the Tyneside units was bigger, hence the periscopes being further back on those units. EDIT: Wasn't sure about the two destination board holders between the guards and passenger accomodation either. Whilst all units seem to have been so fitted originally, some had lost them by the time they were in BR Blue or Blue/Grey. Something to watch out for when renumbering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I reckon you'd need 3 sets - the third set would provide compartments and non-driving ends (to replace the cabs on the two other driving trailers to turn them in to trailers) and plain bogie to replace the ones with shoebeam. Hack the interiors to suit, remove the roof cabling and change the underframe equipment to the later 1957 type (using Southern Pride bits) and you'd be there. The remains of the third set plus MJT etched sides would give a MLV to make sure the leftovers don't go to waste That Means I am going to get 2 x sets for normal use and another 3 to make the 4 EPB makng 5 sets in total! assuming one of the powered chassis would be sufficient for the 4 car unit I would be left with 2 powered chassis and I could possibly use the Replica MLV parts then to produce a couple of MLV's. Very interesting proposition. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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