RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 19, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) One of the things that ensures a good return for the RTR guys is a uniformity of work. As soon as you start doing more of one thing than everything else it creates disruption to the smooth flow of the primary product. Old bogies like the ones Bachmann sell as spares are one-piece mouldings, those made to current RTR standards are usually more complex. They certainly aren't going to be a fiver a pair! There's a big difference between accumulating a bin full of assorted spares at the end of the production line, and turning out things like pairs of bogies to be retailed separately. The latter involves an extra packaging process at the very least. There is also an unspoken assumption that spare (assembled) RTR bogies would be cheaper than metal bogie kits; if it didn't turn out that way, would that change their desirability? There are several sources of GWR coach bogie kits (many included with the kit). Those should fit a lot more conveniently to a metal coach than ones designed for a plastic model which may well need modification to steps etc. which will have been made to suit the RTR model. In any case, when it comes to constructing coach kits, assembling the bogies has always been one of the easier stages in my experience. Looking at it in the longer term, though, kit-build coaches weigh (on average) at least double what their RTR counterparts do. Putting that load through bogies that aren't designed to handle it would inevitably limit their durability. John Edited February 21, 2022 by Dunsignalling removal of excess word 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinT Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 18/12/2021 at 16:59, The Stationmaster said: They don't appear in either the summer or winter 1941 programme which suggests to me that they were probably only booked to run when needed by Notice. The 'Rabbiter' does appear in the 1943 summer WTT (dated May 3rd UFN). It is indeed marked RR & runs empty: Taunton dep 3.20pm, arr South Molton 4.40. Dep SM 5.45, arr Taunton 8.05. It stops at all stations, typically for about 8 mins except Dulverton where 19 mins are allowed, & East Anstey where 20 mins are allowed - but this does not I think indicate massive quantities of rabbits to be loaded at EA but more the need to wait the arrival of the 5.35 from Taunton! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinT Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 18/12/2021 at 15:11, Pteremy said: The 'Rabbiter' ran on the Barnstaple -Taunton line between 1940 and 1954 (Huxtable v3, p593), initially from Barnstaple Victoria but by the mid 1940's from South Molton. No-one seems to have photographed the train but it is described as normally comprising 'two bogie parcels vans', thought to be Siphons. The train picked up hampers/crates of rabbits at most stations on route. These were then sent on to Birmingham and London from Taunton. You're right about the lack of photos of this train I'm afraid - it is one of my 'holy grail' Barnstaple line photos that I've been hoping to discover for decades! In 2009 I wrote to Roger Venning, the doyen of Taunton photographers of the 1940s, asking if he had ever photographed it. Sadly he hadn't - in the 1940s he was a teenager & had to be home by 7pm to do his homework! He actually asserts that 'seeing anything of the South Molton rabbit traffic was far & few between & no photos of the train were ever taken by any of us spotters at that time'. He did send me a photo by his friend the late Pursey Short (whose photos he'd inherited) of a parcels van (something like a K40 I think) being loaded with crates of rabbits at Temple Meads on 5th November 1950. It was taken at 5.40pm so is an evening shot. The caption on the back reads: 'Loading rabbits into a luggage van, bound for London market'. Roger said that Pursey surmised that they had arrived from Taunton on the train he had travelled on - he was on his way back to Portsmouth (where he worked) after a w/e with his parents in Taunton. 5/11/1950 was a Sunday so they couldn't have come from a Barnstaple line train. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted April 17, 2022 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2022 With the loss of RMweb last week I didn't get chance to post my photos from Ally Pally last month. Here's a few shots of the very nicely detailed underframe. Sorry for the quality but you'll get an idea of what's coming. 19 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMitchell Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 All that detail on the bogies isn’t going to make rewheeling to EM or P4 straightforward. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted April 17, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, ChrisMitchell said: All that detail on the bogies isn’t going to make rewheeling to EM or P4 straightforward. Chris And yet, they’ve been engineered so that the opportunity is there for you, should you so wish Chris. After all, if it’s straightforward, is it really modelling? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 17, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, Islesy said: And yet, they’ve been engineered so that the opportunity is there for you, should you so wish Chris. After all, if it’s straightforward, is it really modelling? Hopefully we've got 14mm wheels and 26mm axles? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) One quick question: I have a Collett K42 BG and a GW design P24 Monster which will both require accurate Pressed Steel parcels stock bogies that would also be fitted under M.34, O.33 and O.62 siphons (shorter spring length than on passenger stock). Would you be willing to make your bogies available as a separate item? BTW I will be replacing my Lima siphons with your offering. Edited April 17, 2022 by Flood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted April 19, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 17/04/2022 at 15:44, Enterprisingwestern said: Hopefully we've got 14mm wheels and 26mm axles? Mike. Hi Mike, Cheers! Fran 15 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 17/04/2022 at 15:44, Enterprisingwestern said: Hopefully we've got 14mm wheels and 26mm axles? Mike. 14.33mm for 3’7”😀 Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Excellent. I don't think anyone can tell the difference between 3'6" and 3'7" wheels - 14mm wheels can help a bit in preventing bumping against the floor underside with OO flanges. (The important datum is a conformant buffer height.) 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted April 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2022 23 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi Mike, Cheers! Fran That will be a Yes then... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 19/04/2022 at 11:05, Accurascale Fran said: Hi Mike, Cheers! Fran Round of applause well deserved from a wheel PITA! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Accurascale Fran Posted July 5, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2022 New Accurascale Exclusive Announcement - Enparts Siphon G Van Our Siphon G bogie vans are progressing well through development, with tooling amendments from feedback on the first sample now complete and decorated samples are beginning to arrive from the factory. The first decorated sample to arrive from the factory is our new "Accurascale Exclusive" announcement, ADB975784 (ex-1006) in the classic "ENPARTS" livery! (Look out for the revealing of the rest of the decorated Siphon G vans in the coming weeks. They're looking pretty special...) Converted for Enparts use in 1978, ADB975784 was one of a squadron of at least 24 Siphon G vans used by the Western Region for transporting spare parts for locomotives and rolling stock from Swindon to the larger Motive Power Depots. They soldered on in service until 1985, making them a favourite pre-nationalisation favourite of the corporate blue era. Our latest "Accurascale Exclusive" covers the Siphon in this condition, suitably modified and decorated for this traffic, including blocking off of the gangways and vents as well as receiving the Enparts livery of green with suitable markings. A firm favourite with enthusiasts of this era, it seemed the perfect addition to our "Accurascale Exclusives" range of limited edition models available only direct via the Accurascale website. Delivery is slated for late Q4 2022/Q1 2023 and can be ordered below for a price of £54.95 inc. postage and packaging to the UK and Ireland, with 10% off when you buy two or more. Early pre-ordering is advised to avoid disappointment! Pre-order your Enparts Siphon by clicking here! (Please note that this decorated model is still a pre-production model, so fit, finish and printing will all be further improved/enhanced before production.) 22 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 Now your need a Denparts wagon to go with it (but WR pattern please) - https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/denpartzrv 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 ADB975784 looking smart https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/departmental975700/efe5359d and more care worn https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/departmental975700/e16bb3766 Paul 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 13:31, The Stationmaster said: Now your need a Denparts wagon to go with it (but WR pattern please) - https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/denpartzrv I see we've been given a start by @mudmagnet See his thread hereabouts. Mike. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2022 17 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: I see we've been given a start by @mudmagnet See his thread hereabouts. Mike. Agree although we don't yet know which pattern of Denparts box(es?) he will be doing. But I'm sure he'll be letting us know very soon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Looking at the underframe I don't see how the brakes will work with this linkage rod, I am sure its not there on the prototype, as each vacuum cylinder and lever only works on one bogie linking them with this rod would cause one lot of brakes to go on and the other end to come off. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted July 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, David Bigcheeseplant said: Looking at the underframe I don't see how the brakes will work with this linkage rod, I am sure its not there on the prototype, as each vacuum cylinder and lever only works on one bogie linking them with this rod would cause one lot of brakes to go on and the other end to come off. You are quite correct David, and it was one of the tooling changes we fed back to the factory at the time we received the Engineering Samples. One of those occasions which only come to light once the EPs have been received which, after all, is the whole point of having those samples. The final samples will have this error corrected (though not the decorated samples, because many of the parts from the first EP are used to create the decoration samples). Fortunately it was an easy fix. Best wishes, Paul. Edited July 7, 2022 by Islesy 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted July 21, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2022 SPECIAL DELIVERY - SIPHON G DECORATED SAMPLES AND UPDATE! Hi everyone, Following on from our Enparts Accurascale Exclusives announcement a couple of weeks ago, we can reveal the rest of our Siphon G decorated samples. Tooling improvements, colour tweaks and further corrections, as well as a delivery update and more can be found in our latest blog update: https://www.accurascale.com/blogs/news/special-delivery-decorated-siphon-g-bogie-van-samples-arrive Pre-order yours via your local stockist, or direct £54.95 each with 10% off when you buy two or more with free UK and Ireland P&P and our easy payment terms at no extra cost: https://www.accurascale.com/collections/siphon-g Cheers! Fran 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HExpressD Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 These look cracking, if I can find an excuse to get one I definitely will! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: SPECIAL DELIVERY - SIPHON G DECORATED SAMPLES AND UPDATE! Hi everyone, Following on from our Enparts Accurascale Exclusives announcement a couple of weeks ago, we can reveal the rest of our Siphon G decorated samples. Tooling improvements, colour tweaks and further corrections, as well as a delivery update and more can be found in our latest blog update: https://www.accurascale.com/blogs/news/special-delivery-decorated-siphon-g-bogie-van-samples-arrive Pre-order yours via your local stockist, or direct £54.95 each with 10% off when you buy two or more with free UK and Ireland P&P and our easy payment terms at no extra cost: https://www.accurascale.com/collections/siphon-g Cheers! Fran One issue that jumps out to me is the tie bar/axle box retainers which look to be too low. I have raised the issue of the pipe position along the solebar earlier in the thread so there is no need to repeat that discussion. Otherwise looking stunning! Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted July 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mark said: One issue that jumps out to me is the tie bar/axle box retainers which look to be too low. Genuine question, where do you think they should be then Mark? Do you have measurements or photographs that might show where we are wrong, as according to my measurements and drawings, they look good to me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted July 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2022 Shouldn't the ends be black on the steam era models, in the same way as passenger coaches were at the time? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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