RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) I think rail travel increased through economic success. Roads were becoming too busy, as second car ownership increased. Rail was an alternative. cities were becoming more productive with economic investment post Maastricht as global companies took advantage of English langugage and law to host their dealings with Europe in the UK, which provided employment, prospects and supported service industries. Privatisation hasnt made a difference, imo its made it worse. Post covid customers have shown no loyalty to railways regardless who owns them, and Brexit has seen an unknown volume exodus of people, as has business relocated to the continent… the overall demand has decreased. Paris, Dublin and Amsterdam are struggling under their new found weight of record success last year. Bringing railways back in public control isnt going to change the demand, but its the costs that now need focus and some painful decisions are going to be needed at some point to resize the system to what it can afford. The economy, pound and interest rates are already doing this, housing, employment and salaries will follow in declines. Its is also fallacy imo to think domestic tourism will compensate for loss of commuter & business travel. The system doesnt have that product appeal, and for a few days a week it will never make economic sense. The country and the railways might be going back to the 1955 plan, but the passenger is still going to the Sunny climates for their holidays, and will trade a half dozen weekend in the UK trips for 2 weeks on a hot sunny beach. How does this fit the badger… it got a second lease of life with GNER, due to that demand, that didnt justify expenditure on new stock, as did hiring in various locos at the turn of the century and some of which persisted until Covid. It will be popular in its 3rd lease of life, day trip category, but this is enthusiasts, isnt really going to be a hugely financial success, running a few trips a year and is a long way from the dft’s “leisure” railway. If you look at leisure trips in other countries, some things are very apparent.. table seats, big windows & fresh air… The only train that has fresh air now is the Penzance sleeper, and most of our trains have airline seats that barely align to a window. Edited December 11, 2022 by adb968008 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 08:47, No Decorum said: Like all the best questions, that’s tricky to answer. I have no rose-tinted glasses about BR. There were good things done and some absolute howlers. The HST was a superb product and it was well publicised. Using Saville was a mistake but only with hindsight. We know that passenger numbers rose after privatisation. My recollection from looking years ago was that the passenger numbers started on the way up just prior to privatisation and thus likely it was more driven by external issues. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 30, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2023 Well that's the last instalment on my 89 - apparently I have completed a challenge and earned nil point! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Express Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Hi Fran, do you know when the likely cut off date will be for Class 89 orders direct with yourselves? Few other bits to sort first but would sooner purchase from yourselves and get a few points! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted February 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Torbay Express said: Hi Fran, do you know when the likely cut off date will be for Class 89 orders direct with yourselves? Few other bits to sort first but would sooner purchase from yourselves and get a few points! There won't be a cut off unless we sell out completely. Hope that helps! 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ERIC ALLTORQUE Posted February 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2023 On 30/01/2023 at 13:07, Bucoops said: earned nil point! Irelands far more successful at Eurovision than us on the big rock 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR 802006 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 @Accurascale Fran @McC I just went on your website for the Projects Status page and is the 89 model now coming in Q1 2024? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted February 10, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, GWR 802006 said: @Accurascale Fran @McC I just went on your website for the Projects Status page and is the 89 model now coming in Q1 2024? Hi there! Fat fingers on our part, still Q3 2023. Apologies for confusion, we will get the website updated. Cheers! Fran 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham108 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 10/02/2023 at 19:28, Accurascale Fran said: Fat fingers ... ... to go round your fat wallets perhaps. Although just a TIC comment, I hope it's true as the fatter your wallets the more likely you'll continue to produce the goods for us to buy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Express Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Just out of interest, and most probably a very stupid question, when you look at history....... What is the likelihood of your GNER Blue, matching that of another companies the recent Mk4's? Must admit, it does appear to vary considerably based on weather conditions, blue sky or cloud! Taking it that in the GNER period it never worked with MK3's thinking Darker Lima colour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Torbay Express said: Just out of interest, and most probably a very stupid question, when you look at history....... What is the likelihood of your GNER Blue, matching that of another companies the recent Mk4's? Must admit, it does appear to vary considerably based on weather conditions, blue sky or cloud! Taking it that in the GNER period it never worked with MK3's thinking Darker Lima colour. interesting point, but Hornby managed to get their new GNER mk4’s pretty much mapping to their 20 year old mk4’s. just a pity they replicated the bubble window frames from that 1990’s tooling, when it should be flat. Edited March 2, 2023 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Express Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 hours ago, adb968008 said: interesting point, but Hornby managed to get their new GNER mk4’s pretty much mapping to their 20 year old mk4’s. just a pity they replicated the bubble window frames from that 1990’s tooling, when it should be flat. Yes, and if you look at some websites they look a really deep blue, and other times like a really dark ocean blue! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 What’s the current eta for the 89? Just working out the monthly budget and only buying one. Not one in each livery,nor 50 so I can have an imaginary fleet😂 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nightstar.train Posted April 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Wolf27 said: What’s the current eta for the 89? Just working out the monthly budget and only buying one. Not one in each livery,nor 50 so I can have an imaginary fleet😂 Hopefully Fran or McC can give us a better update. But the page https://www.accurascale.com/pages/project-status lists them as Q3 2023. However it also says they haven’t entered production. So I’m thinking that date will have slipped a bit, but hopefully still be this year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted April 28, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2023 8 hours ago, nightstar.train said: Hopefully Fran or McC can give us a better update. But the page https://www.accurascale.com/pages/project-status lists them as Q3 2023. However it also says they haven’t entered production. So I’m thinking that date will have slipped a bit, but hopefully still be this year. Right now broadly on schedule with decorated samples under review, we'll update in details once we have a more concrete plan, but for now the schedule is unchanged. 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Just made my Final Payment on this magnificent looking Model. Looking forward Immensely to receiving this . Thanks to all involved for taking the Risk in Making what I consider one of the best looking Loco's to ever grace the Rails. Cheers Trailrage PS unsure if its been asked before but is there any plans to release the Pantographs as an Accessory? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted May 16, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2023 Hi @TRAILRAGE, No plans to release them as a separate item at this moment but that may change in the future. In other news decorated samples are on the way to us for assessment. Look out for their reveal in a couple of weeks and a production update from there. Having seen a sneak peak they may well break the internet, but then again I’m a tad biased I guess! Cheers! Fran 15 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Commence Dribbling in anticipation!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold StuAllen Posted May 16, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2023 I’ll leave this here, taken at Barrowhill Roundhouse last summer. Shame the badger is hiding behind a shed. Looking forward to seeing the decorated samples. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 16 hours ago, StuAllen said: I’ll leave this here, taken at Barrowhill Roundhouse last summer. Shame the badger is hiding behind a shed. Looking forward to seeing the decorated samples. First sign of a human and the first thing a badger does is go and scurry behind the shed for safety 😉 1 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted May 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Ed-farms said: First sign of a human and the first thing a badger does is go and scurry behind the shed for safety 😉 Quite, and off shot is another shed about to run it over... Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR 802006 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 @Accurascale Fran @Accurascale @McC any news of when you be showing off the decorated samples of the Class 89? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 2, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2023 Hi @GWR 802006, To be honest we haven't stopped drooling over them since they arrived. They're having their snaps taken next week, so look out for those really soon after. We're biased, but we gasped in amazement when we saw them painted up. I'll say no more... Cheers! Fran 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR 802006 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 So can't wait and I think I would be the same when I see the GNER gold lettering one 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted June 3, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2023 17 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi @GWR 802006, To be honest we haven't stopped drooling over them since they arrived. They're having their snaps taken next week, so look out for those really soon after. We're biased, but we gasped in amazement when we saw them painted up. I'll say no more... Cheers! Fran Careful there Fran, or you will begin to sound like KR Models lol 😁 Seriously though, I am looking forward to seeing those snaps. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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