JSpencer Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 To war with the WD version of the van. Mixed with other WD/Military wagons and 2 Rapido SECR brake vans.... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 On 08/03/2024 at 13:12, RapidoCorbs said: The GRANO at Didcot has spoked and disc wheels mixed but I think that may be a preservation thing :) If that is a subliminal hint it would be a welcome one! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 On 08/03/2024 at 14:55, Dunsignalling said: ... Back in the day, mixed axleboxes weren't uncommon, either. Impossible to tell from photos but I guess different types on each end of an axle would be rare - however interchangeable they were !!?! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said: Impossible to tell from photos but I guess different types on each end of an axle would be rare - however interchangeable they were !!?! An 1898 specification for 8-ton open wagons for the S&DJR has this to say about fitting wheels to axles: "the Centres to be tightly pressed on the Axles with a hydraulic pressure of 40 tons" - so, once on, on, I think. [Midland Railway Study Centre item 88-1974-58/2] 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Er ......sorry .........er ..... I thought we'd got onto talking about axleboxes !!?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold greatcoleswoodhalt Posted March 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 12 For those more familiar, please can I check that Port of Bristol Authority No 58054 is Diagram O11 (943025) iso Diagram O15? I presume the former as unfitted, however, the description on the product page states "O15 10t unfitted open", as does the sticker on the box! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RapidoCorbs Posted March 13 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, greatcoleswoodhalt said: For those more familiar, please can I check that Port of Bristol Authority No 58054 is Diagram O11 (943025) iso Diagram O15? I presume the former as unfitted, however, the description on the product page states "O15 10t unfitted open", as does the sticker on the box! O11 (unfitted) - error in product description/label. Possibly as it was a higher numbered SKU amongst the O15s, it got lumped in with them by mistake. Edited March 13 by RapidoCorbs 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 PBA would have had no use for vacuum brakes so might have removed the gear from an O15 ??!? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RapidoCorbs Posted March 13 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13 It did have tie bars but I was sure it was an O11. I had the original wagon number somewhere but not to hand right now. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14 Impressed with my one van and two opens, one of which converted to P4 pretty easily this evening. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dube Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) The only problem with these wagons is the couplings leave a BIG gap between wagons made worse by the smaller size of these wagons, anyone tried the Bachman short coupling hooks to reduce the gap Edited March 16 by dube 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RapidoCorbs Posted March 16 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16 11 hours ago, dube said: The only problem with these wagons is the couplings leave a BIG gap between wagons made worse buy the smaller size of these wagons, anyone tried the Bachman short coupling hooks to reduce the gap We've tried on these ones to make the coupling distance shorter than previous models. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenL Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, RapidoCorbs said: We've tried on these ones to make the coupling distance shorter than previous models. What would really help would be to model the coupling on the Bachmann short straight example, which has a shorter ‘base’ behind the fitting for the coupling hook. Fitting the Bachmann version does help noticeably reduce the gap and I swap these in on all my Rapido wagons, but this isn’t cheap! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I don't expect a serious gap problem with the three-links when I get round to them ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RapidoCorbs Posted March 18 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18 On 16/03/2024 at 21:43, BenL said: What would really help would be to model the coupling on the Bachmann short straight example, which has a shorter ‘base’ behind the fitting for the coupling hook. Fitting the Bachmann version does help noticeably reduce the gap and I swap these in on all my Rapido wagons, but this isn’t cheap! Yes we are doing that as well, but bear in mind that what is coming out now was designed over a year ago, sometimes more. We also have to make sure our spare parts in the warranty department will work with both the new and old stock. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 18 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18 On 14/03/2024 at 22:23, Captain Kernow said: Impressed with my one van and two opens, one of which converted to P4 pretty easily this evening. But I did have to replace the plastic tiebars on the open, which were rather bendy, with brass ones, other than that, it's looking great. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 6 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: But I did have to replace the plastic tiebars on the open, which were rather bendy, with brass ones, other than that, it's looking great. Not just bendy - but bent on my O15 ....... did wonder if the plastic packaging had pushed them upwards - but I don't think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenL Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 24 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Not just bendy - but bent on my O15 ....... did wonder if the plastic packaging had pushed them upwards - but I don't think so. Following advice from @Derails Models, they can be straightened by tweaking the ends where they join the axelboxes. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19 13 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Not just bendy - but bent on my O15 ....... did wonder if the plastic packaging had pushed them upwards - but I don't think so. When I say 'bendy', one of mine had a pronounced upward bend, the other starting to bend in a similar fashion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 As round-section tiebars, I'll use wire as I did with my SECR Open vac-fit conversion. ( etched flat tiebars are available from Cambrian ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) Well I received a second van today. A V16 vs V17 that I received before. The body between them are the same but underframe and roof details differ. Edited March 19 by JSpencer 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 'V17' ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 29 minutes ago, Miss Prism said: 'V17' ? Yeah I thought it was odd too... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RapidoCorbs Posted March 19 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19 V17s being V16s fitted with screw couplings for working in France/Belgium. Although the couplings are not modelled, the van is painted as a V17 - converted back to V16 or X6 (later Y4) post-war. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, RapidoCorbs said: V17s being V16s fitted with screw couplings for working in France/Belgium. Although the couplings are not modelled, the van is painted as a V17 - converted back to V16 or X6 (later Y4) post-war. Didn’t they have the buffers packed out a couple of inches because the screw couplings are longer? Other wagons that were fitted with screw couplings during the first world war for working in France definitely did. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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