Hornby 2023 - Diesel & Electric locomotives/units

[scouse889]

18 hours ago, scottrains29 said:

They subsequently released more appropriate destination stickers after the Norwich bound Scotrail 156 for people to retro fit. 

I missed that, will have to try to get hold of some!

[JDW]

Apologies if it's already been mentioned elsewhere, I've just spotted this on the Hatton's website: https://www.hattons.co.uk/880996/hornby_r30203_class_121_single_car_dmu_in_coca_cola_livery_railroad_range/stockdetail

I have to admit, I've always found the whole Coca Cola range a bit odd, bit I quite like it. I think I'd be tempted to extend the swoosh to end at a more natural finishing point somewhere around each cab door, probably add a set of mini snow ploughs as well, a nice alternative for a Christmas train set layout. 

[Geep7]

On 19/03/2023 at 14:39, JDW said:

Apologies if it's already been mentioned elsewhere, I've just spotted this on the Hatton's website: https://www.hattons.co.uk/880996/hornby_r30203_class_121_single_car_dmu_in_coca_cola_livery_railroad_range/stockdetail

I have to admit, I've always found the whole Coca Cola range a bit odd, bit I quite like it. I think I'd be tempted to extend the swoosh to end at a more natural finishing point somewhere around each cab door, probably add a set of mini snow ploughs as well, a nice alternative for a Christmas train set layout. 

Might be tempting, just to replace the chassis under my detailed and corrected Lima Class 117......

[Legend]

41 minutes ago, Geep7 said:

Might be tempting, just to replace the chassis under my detailed and corrected Lima Class 117......

 

Wait for it to become discounted . Likewise I'm waiting to see if I could use chassis on a dmu project . 

[surfsup]

On 16/03/2023 at 19:23, scouse889 said:

R3575 153379 was an ex CT liveried unit with EMT branding, Derby to Matlock service, so indeed it seems likely they used one of these as a base with a vinyl on the side for this preproduction sample. Quite how they do the production version remains to be seen, but they do seem keen on transfers recently…..

It too is unfortunately one of the reasons why I've cancelled my order until I see the model in the flesh. Sadly I fear it'll be wrapped in large waterslide transfers than printed. 

[rob D2]

On 19/03/2023 at 14:39, JDW said:

Apologies if it's already been mentioned elsewhere, I've just spotted this on the Hatton's website: https://www.hattons.co.uk/880996/hornby_r30203_class_121_single_car_dmu_in_coca_cola_livery_railroad_range/stockdetail

I have to admit, I've always found the whole Coca Cola range a bit odd, bit I quite like it. I think I'd be tempted to extend the swoosh to end at a more natural finishing point somewhere around each cab door, probably add a set of mini snow ploughs as well, a nice alternative for a Christmas train set layout. 

Another quality bit of marketing . I might buy into it if it was Pepsi max…

The sort of quality decisions that see Poor old Simon and Montana standing in front a truckload of sTeampunk crap trying to sell it at the Dorset steam fair on the TV show this week ,

 

I truly hope TT is a better thought out idea 

[PeterStiles]

10 hours ago, rob D2 said:

quality bit of marketing

Well, the coca cola stuff has been selling well for -years- now, including in some of Hornby's continental brands, so I think you'll find they consider it so.

[Johan DC]

Just now, PeterStiles said:

Well, the coca cola stuff has been selling well for -years- now, including in some of Hornby's continental brands, so I think you'll find they consider it so.

It's often, together with the Santa's express, the only pieces of Hornby you'll find in most (online) toy shops in mainland Europe. 

Maybe not so much fuzz online like TT and HM-DCC, that's true. 

[HExpressD]

11 hours ago, rob D2 said:

Another quality bit of marketing . I might buy into it if it was Pepsi max…

The sort of quality decisions that see Poor old Simon and Montana standing in front a truckload of sTeampunk crap trying to sell it at the Dorset steam fair on the TV show this week ,

 

I truly hope TT is a better thought out idea 

Granted you/I/some/people of this here parish may not like it that much (the Coca-Cola stuff that is) but I would assume that Hornby's core market is still mum/dad with kids who do it for the trains, and I think it must resonate quite well with them. Previous Coca-Cola stuff must have sold alright else they'd knock it on the head you'd imagine. 

[rob D2]

I guess so…it’s just irritating when they can’t get things like the 3 greys of 3TTG correct, but spend  a lot of time pumping this stuff out,

I guess I’m not the target market for them really 

[Johan DC]

53 minutes ago, rob D2 said:

 but spend  a lot of time pumping this stuff out,

 

Yes, Coca-cola products really are their core business. 

[PeterStiles]

3 hours ago, Johan DC said:

ot of time pumping this stuff out

I think you'll find most coca cola is delivered in bottles, not on tap.

[JDW]

4 hours ago, rob D2 said:

I guess so…it’s just irritating when they can’t get things like the 3 greys of 3TTG correct, but spend  a lot of time pumping this stuff out,

I guess I’m not the target market for them really 

 

Has anyone checked that it is the correct shade of Coca Cola red...? Shouldn't the roof be a darker grey? And blue seats? Shouldn't they be maroon LT-style moquette? Hmmm... 

[adb968008]

You wait a decade for some AC Electrics and two arrive at once….

its been some time since I had a Hornby box delivered….

 

Both are excellant… right up to the standard you’d expect..

 

 

 

 

 

interestingly the 91 runs fast but uses 0.3 amps of power !!! Where as the 87 uses a more normal 0.1amp.. but both run fine.. but the 91 will run your electric bill more :-)

 

 

 

 

 

the 91 paint job is a transfer (you can see where they rubbed down into the vent along the roof), but its a good job..
 

 

Close up on the 87…

The loco is modelled in the AC disconnected position…

 

I maybe wrong but 91110 looks sold out at Hornby, so maybe dont wait around.

 

Edited March 24, 2023 by adb968008

[rob D2]

9 hours ago, Johan DC said:

Yes, Coca-cola products really are their core business. 

In general, fringe ideas and products detract from the proper stuff I would think .

[zoomer1979]

I might have missed the exact details from earlier batches, but has anyone noticed that the body tooling of the early Class 31 (Class 30 with Mirrlees engines) have actually been done correctly with different exhaust ports and no grill on the engine door. Has this been the case before? If not then it's a point to Hornby!

Neil.

[Johan DC]

12 hours ago, rob D2 said:

In general, fringe ideas and products detract from the proper stuff I would think .

Depends. If it's steampunk and such, yes. But none of the CC models are more than just a very simple fictive version of existing models, Railroad at that. So why not? They aren't the only one, and there are quite a few CC-collectors. If they would make totally new models, like SP, then I agree. 

[Ron Ron Ron]

On 24/03/2023 at 20:14, adb968008 said:

 

.................Both are excellant… right up to the standard you’d expect..

 

 

 

 

It looks like that 87 has been to Specsavers.

 

Why is it wearing glasses?

 

 

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[Ron Ron Ron]

On 24/03/2023 at 08:01, HExpressD said:

.......I would assume that Hornby's core market is still mum/dad with kids who do it for the trains,.....

 

I'm curious.

I wonder where they'd even see them, let alone buy them?

Independent toy shops are relatively rare across the country.

The chains are few in number and only one stocks a small selection of Hornby train sets and no add-ons or accessories.

Argos, who only list a couple of Christmas clearance train sets, have closed the vast majority of their stores and are mainly online with Sainsbury's collection points, or small outlets in certain Sainsbury's stores.

John Lewis dept store, toy departments, don't do this sort of toy.....

So where are all these mums and dads snapping up all these Hornby toy trains from?

 

 

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[rob D2]

43 minutes ago, Ron Ron Ron said:

 

I'm curious.

I wonder where they'd even see them, let alone buy them?

Independent toy shops are relatively rare across the country.

The chains are few in number and only one stocks a small selection of Hornby train sets and no add-ons or accessories.

Argos, who only list a couple of Christmas clearance train sets, have closed the vast majority of their stores and are mainly online with Sainsbury's collection points, or small outlets in certain Sainsbury's stores.

John Lewis dept store, toy departments, don't do this sort of toy.....

So where are all these mums and dads snapping up all these Hornby toy trains from?

 

 

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Where are they ? 1980.

[MikeParkin65]

On 24/03/2023 at 21:53, zoomer1979 said:

I might have missed the exact details from earlier batches, but has anyone noticed that the body tooling of the early Class 31 (Class 30 with Mirrlees engines) have actually been done correctly with different exhaust ports and no grill on the engine door. Has this been the case before? If not then it's a point to Hornby!

Neil.

Pretty sure this was the same with the first batch. Biggest difference is price tho, I paid £49.99 for my D5511 from Modelzone!

[PhilJ W]

2 hours ago, Ron Ron Ron said:

I'm curious.

I wonder where they'd even see them, let alone buy them?

Independent toy shops are relatively rare across the country.

The chains are few in number and only one stocks a small selection of Hornby train sets and no add-ons or accessories.

Argos, who only list a couple of Christmas clearance train sets, have closed the vast majority of their stores and are mainly online with Sainsbury's collection points, or small outlets in certain Sainsbury's stores.

John Lewis dept store, toy departments, don't do this sort of toy.....

So where are all these mums and dads snapping up all these Hornby toy trains from?

They appear in Asda's just before Christmas but mot are bought on line.

[HExpressD]

12 hours ago, Ron Ron Ron said:

 

I'm curious.

I wonder where they'd even see them, let alone buy them?

Independent toy shops are relatively rare across the country.

The chains are few in number and only one stocks a small selection of Hornby train sets and no add-ons or accessories.

Argos, who only list a couple of Christmas clearance train sets, have closed the vast majority of their stores and are mainly online with Sainsbury's collection points, or small outlets in certain Sainsbury's stores.

John Lewis dept store, toy departments, don't do this sort of toy.....

So where are all these mums and dads snapping up all these Hornby toy trains from?

 

 

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Hornby website/Amazon/Hattons/eBay would be my guesses.

 

They used to sell quite well through Argos, I used to work in one (and it wasn't a big one!)

[Ron Ron Ron]

1 hour ago, HExpressD said:

Hornby website/Amazon/Hattons/eBay would be my guesses.……

So, you’d have to go out if your way to find them, or hunt them down?

 

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[HExpressD]

14 minutes ago, Ron Ron Ron said:

So, you’d have to go out if your way to find them, or hunt them down?

 

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I suppose that depends on how you look at it. In that case do I have to go out of my way to find or hunt down my food shopping because I have to go to a specific shop for it as it doesn't fall out of the sky?