Unusual and interesting coaches on Flickr

[russ p]

16 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

Another Sleeping Car that made it into preservation but has since made it into razor blades or bean cans. ☹️

 

Was that the North Norfolk one? I used to stay in one there was absolutely rancid. Was also full of blue asbestos so had no chance sadly 

[Wickham Green too]

That's the one !

[Flood]

So eight dia 2169 made it into preservation, three have gone in the last two years leaving only one left - but for how long.

 

603 - Scrapped Bluebell 12/2022

612 - Scrapped Butterley by 5/2010

615 - Scrapped 10/1992

617 - Congleton?

621 - Scrapped Ecclesbourne Valley, 11/2021

622 - Scrapped Bo'ness 2006

623 - Scrapped Bluebell 12/2022

624 - Scrapped North Norfolk 1997

[Wickham Green too]

... and, without checking, the twelve-wheelers probably not much better. 

[DOCJACOB]

13 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

... and, without checking, the twelve-wheelers probably not much better. 

One of the 12 wheeler (LMS 380 Sleeper 1st) is heavily modified & static on disconnected rails in a campsite next to Lincolnshire Wolds Ludborough. 
 

No easy access to photograph now. 
 

I recall a rumour that was run up and down line on arrival to ensure no lumps or dust of an unpleasant nature occurred following earlier removal of asbestos. 

Edited August 20, 2023 by DOCJACOB
Extra info

[Wickham Green too]

http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=4 ..... "no immediate importance" ( unless it becomes the only survivor )

[hmrspaul]

4 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=4 ..... "no immediate importance" ( unless it becomes the only survivor )

If you search that site for "Type SLF"  a good number of sleepers come up, but looking at the first couple the heritage railways don't care much for them. Some sad sights. 

 

Paul

[MJI]

18 hours ago, Flood said:

A very subtle one here:

 

 

The second sleeper from the left (3rd coach from the left) isn't a Mk1. It's W624M, an LMS design dia 2169, in it's last year of service. Below is a photo of the same coach before it moved to the Western  Region:

 

Strange there is no model

[russ p]

Has the 12w one from the NYMR been scrapped 

[MJI]

What were the pre mark1 sleepers on the wr?

[BernardTPM]

There was a Hawksworth 12 wheeler at GWS Didcot in the '70s.

[Wickham Green too]

2 hours ago, hmrspaul said:

...  Some sad sights. 

Thought there would be so I chose not to get depressed ..... apart from which there are so many different sleeper types on there it would have taken ages to go through the lot !

[Compound2632]

On 10/07/2023 at 17:34, montyburns56 said:

 

 

 

A couple of interesting wagons too. 

 

The carriage is evidently a retired all first and presumably originally six-wheeled? Looks to me to be of NER origin, an opinion assisted by the van looking very much like a NER G1.

[Wickham Green too]

T'other wagon's of interest ..... looks to have inside diagonals to a four-plank body and a 'P' prefix number.

[Bucoops]

On 10/07/2023 at 17:34, montyburns56 said:

 

 

 

I wonder what the purpose of the box structure is under the coach?

[montyburns56]

ADS 70040 at Haywards Heath 1985 by Freight Frog 

 

 

[Enterprisingwestern]

3 hours ago, Bucoops said:

 

I wonder what the purpose of the box structure is under the coach?

 

The writing seems to suggest an S & T coach, so I would imagine it's for a ladder.

 

Mike.

[billbedford]

2 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

The writing seems to suggest an S & T coach, so I would imagine it's for a ladder.

 

Mike.

 

Oh yer, you can see a little door under the headstock. 

[Wickham Green too]

Is it one long box with the axles rather inconveniently through it - or two/three part-length boxes with the axles between ?

[Compound2632]

11 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

The writing seems to suggest an S & T coach, so I would imagine it's for a ladder.

 

Not easy to extract a ladder, though, if the coach is coupled to wagons at both ends.

[Enterprisingwestern]

1 minute ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Not easy to extract a ladder, though, if the coach is coupled to wagons at both ends.

 

Ignoring the fact that it might not be so constrained on site, have you seen how much bend you can get out of a wooden ladder?

 

Mike.

[DOCJACOB]

Slightly more up to date image of the Perth duo 

 

They have survived (more or less) & one is at GCR as I recall 

 

096056 and 096055 from 9/1/92 

[montyburns56]

Woodford Halse 1963 by Trainsandtravel

 

 

[nightstar.train]

On 20/08/2023 at 11:33, hmrspaul said:

If you search that site for "Type SLF"  a good number of sleepers come up, but looking at the first couple the heritage railways don't care much for them. Some sad sights. 

 

Paul

 

The problem is they're not revenue earning stock for a preserved railway. Most preserved railways operate on very tight funds and have little if any money spare. Unless there's a special fund setup specifically for restoring a sleeper coach they're likely to languish. Unfortunate, but that's the way of things. And they're not 'glamorous' like a steam engine, so don't attract as many people willing to restore them. 

[Enterprisingwestern]

27 minutes ago, nightstar.train said:

 

The problem is they're not revenue earning stock for a preserved railway. Most preserved railways operate on very tight funds and have little if any money spare. Unless there's a special fund setup specifically for restoring a sleeper coach they're likely to languish. Unfortunate, but that's the way of things. And they're not 'glamorous' like a steam engine, so don't attract as many people willing to restore them. 

 

Whilst I'm not saying it's financially viable necessarily, although considering the cost of sleeping equipment it might be a cheaper option, but due to their traditional construction there's a possibility they could be rebuilt internally to a more useful configuration, at least the basics of an old coach would be conserved.

 

Mike.