Peterborough North

[great northern]

Almost identical shot in #4361.  Either the W1 is new (surely not?) or you've bedded in the canopy support leg?  The surface doesn't look much different and I can't see anything else you might have fiddled with.

 

When are these wagons you've been working on due through, then?

 

Tha's a clever b***** you are Jonathan.

 

It may be alleged by some unkind persons that I am on record as saying that I would never have this beast. I entirely refute this malicious suggestion, safe, I hope, in the knowledge that none of you are going to trawl back through 174 pages in the hope of finding allegedly incriminating evidence.   Anyway, I finally subscribed to the argument that as it was a regular sight it ought to be on my layout, so another Hornby A4 has been "Timmed". I hope you remember the verb to "Tim", meaning to make seamless alterations which transform something into something rather different. As you can see, he has triumphed again, and I must say that I'm now very glad that I asked him, as it has a real presence about it. I'll leave Tim to describe on his thread how it was done, and thank him for managing to keep the project quiet for so long, and for achieving the look I remember it had most of the time - not filthy, but not very clean either.

 

The effects on the tender by the way are as usual tricks played by the strong light which I cannot prevent from getting in, even with blinds drawn.

[will5210]

Beautiful! The mucky sheen is done to perfection

Edited August 27, 2013 by will5210

[Mallard60022]

That is a lovely beast IMO.

Imagine that passing through PN as the Caprotti was going the other way. Spotters would have been overwhelmed with emotion at seeing such beautiful beasts within seconds. However one would have been gazed at in disbelief and the other showered with howls of "scrap it"  

P 

[Richard E]

Ah, it was said it was not high on the list of wants though. Nice, I'm always one for taking advantage of the unusual, especially if folk will say "that never ran there" or "that never happened". It is nice to show them they are wrong. That's me!

 

I like it!

[Mallard60022]

May I draw readers attention to post 403 on 'Wright Writes' where Tony gives information on Pullman Cars appropriate for the era of Gilbert's layout.

To be honest I think I should have posted it here!

Thanks,

P

[coachmann]

The 4-8-4 with its trailing wheelset looks like something Thompson should have rebuilt....

Edited August 27, 2013 by coachmann

[Brass0four]

The 4-8-4 with its trailing wheelset looks like something Thompson should have rebuilt....

I was going to agree with your edit! lol

Edited August 27, 2013 by Brass0four

[davidw]

Gilbert I remeber you well saying no W1. Locoholism rules over Peterborough North!

 

A1/1 next ?????  

[Theakerr]

Nothing like the fact to confuse the memory.  If the 15:00 Cleethorpes/Grimsby train didn't get into Kings Cross until 22:00, then it would have to be a pretty late dinner for that fish.  I must admit that I always thought the journey from Grimsby to KX was about 5 hours.  Anyway the facts beg the question, why bother at all with the vans on the rear.  By the way, in my last post Mallard (now corrected) should have read Mayflower.  Gilbert will understand.

[James]

so another Hornby A4 has been "Timmed". I hope you remember the verb to "Tim", meaning to make seamless alterations which transform something into something rather different.

As someone who's known Tim for quite sometime I'm sure there must be more than one definition of the verb 'to tim'!

[The Stationmaster]

Tha's a clever b***** you are Jonathan. W1 2.jpgW1 3.jpgW1 4.jpg

 

It may be alleged by some unkind persons that I am on record as saying that I would never have this beast. I entirely refute this malicious suggestion, safe, I hope, in the knowledge that none of you are going to trawl back through 174 pages in the hope of finding allegedly incriminating evidence.   Anyway, I finally subscribed to the argument that as it was a regular sight it ought to be on my layout, so another Hornby A4 has been "Timmed". I hope you remember the verb to "Tim", meaning to make seamless alterations which transform something into something rather different. As you can see, he has triumphed again, and I must say that I'm now very glad that I asked him, as it has a real presence about it. I'll leave Tim to describe on his thread how it was done, and thank him for managing to keep the project quiet for so long, and for achieving the look I remember it had most of the time - not filthy, but not very clean either.

 

The effects on the tender by the way are as usual tricks played by the strong light which I cannot prevent from getting in, even with blinds drawn.

Just how I remember her - I travelled behind her just the once on a return trip from York with my parents, and I cabbed her on arrival at the 'Cross.  And that was sort of full circle as my dad had cabbed her, as a young chap, when she was on one its tours round the LNER although back then she had looked very different of course.  So whatever anyone else might say I'm glad she's finally appeared at Peterborough and I hope she remains a regular visitor to the pages of RMweb.

[Mallard60022]

Here is something I initially omitted from my posting of Mr Wright's notes on Pullman Cars in the 'Wright writes' thread. He indeed had meant me to post that item here but I'm daft and forgot his instruction.

There are ten other pictures of beautiful cars on the 'other post'. I believe all but the Golden Age cars are Wright conversions and Rathbone paint work. Worth a quick look.

P

Edited August 28, 2013 by Mallard60022

[jwealleans]

Tha's a clever b*****

I'd love to say it was the position of the trailing axle relative to the firebox or the number of washout plugs which gave it away, but if you'd found a way to cover up the lack of nameplate better you'd have foxed me as well.

 

I meant to ask - 75 holes doesn't divide by 18.  So were you in a thrilling playoff over three holes for a major title, did you lose count somewhere, or were the clubs heaved into a water hazard and you retreated to your bench to do some therapeutic wagon modelling?

[Richard E]

I'd love to say it was the position of the trailing axle relative to the firebox or the number of washout plugs which gave it away, but if you'd found a way to cover up the lack of nameplate better you'd have foxed me as well.

 

I meant to ask - 75 holes doesn't divide by 18.  So were you in a thrilling playoff over three holes for a major title, did you lose count somewhere, or were the clubs heaved into a water hazard and you retreated to your bench to do some therapeutic wagon modelling?

There is always the visit to the nineteenth hole to take into account so really it is one short ....

[great northern]

Nothing like the fact to confuse the memory.  If the 15:00 Cleethorpes/Grimsby train didn't get into Kings Cross until 22:00, then it would have to be a pretty late dinner for that fish.  I must admit that I always thought the journey from Grimsby to KX was about 5 hours.  Anyway the facts beg the question, why bother at all with the vans on the rear.  By the way, in my last post Mallard (now corrected) should have read Mayflower.  Gilbert will understand.

I was a bit puzzled by the reference to Mallard, Jim, but all now becomes clear. I have also now found two articles in TI May and June 1958, entitled Day trip to Grimsby. Geoffrey Freeman Allen refers to fish vans tacked on to the rear of passenger trains, and says " Stations along the route to Sheffield can get their fish early on a van that is tacked on to the rear of the 1129am from Cleethorpes at Grimsby Docks station, while another on the Lincoln line is backed onto the following 1143 from Cleethorpes; the 2.22pm Cleethorpes - Sheffield picks up vans for as far afield as Aberystwyth and Holyhead....... He doesn't say anything about vans attached on to KX trains, but he does mention the fact that since his visit the two trains to KX had been combined into one leaving at 5.30pm, "presumably because of declining business". The whole article predicted gloomily and correctly the slump in fish traffic which would see its end in the near future.

[great northern]

I'd love to say it was the position of the trailing axle relative to the firebox or the number of washout plugs which gave it away, but if you'd found a way to cover up the lack of nameplate better you'd have foxed me as well.

 

I meant to ask - 75 holes doesn't divide by 18.  So were you in a thrilling playoff over three holes for a major title, did you lose count somewhere, or were the clubs heaved into a water hazard and you retreated to your bench to do some therapeutic wagon modelling?

12 holes on Tuesday, 9 on Wednesday,and 18 each on Thursday Friday and Saturday. It all adds up you know.  Nett 69 in a competition on Friday, but didn't win, and a small matter of 24 shots worse on Saturday, by which time I was well and truly over golfed.

 

As to the W1, I didn't want to make it too difficult, so the lack of nameplate was what I intended to give it away, and it did, very quickly. The wagons are still being allocated to the appropriate cassettes by the way.

[great northern]

Gilbert I remeber you well saying no W1. Locoholism rules over Peterborough North!

 

A1/1 next ?????  

You may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

[davidw]

I'm hoping my A1/1 will be with me in the next month or so.

[great northern]

I'm hoping my A1/1 will be with me in the next month or so.

Well, that's that then. It can't be in two places at once, can it?

[davidw]

I think when you see the job Morgan's done on it you'll be as stunned as I.

Edited August 30, 2013 by davidw

[great northern]

Time I did some more photos, I thought. So I did. However, when I came to activate Paint.Net I got an urgent update message, and guess what? Update failed, and message from AVG to say threats detected. So, no way of shopping stuff for the time being, and it is back to the bad old days. I'll find out tomorrow if I have virus problems.

 

Anyway, here is the one that I shopped before everything went pear shaped. Having said that though, the light was so strong that the right hand side of the shot has melted. Its a nice clean A3 folks.

 

I now have working signals at this end, and so can show the rather strange placement of the signals for the Down Main. This is what the driver of the A3 would see as he got the road.

For the sake of clarity, this shows the third signal involved, which is partly hidden in the previous shot.

 

And the A3 pulls away, passing a 9F waiting for the road to take coal empties into New England yard. All of which leaves just one question. Which A3 is it?

 

 

This one. On trial after a general, and must have failed at KX, because it is being very gently run in on the 0640 to Grantham. Hot box probably.

[Dr Gerbil-Fritters]

60090 is a stunner - howdya get the superb gloss paint on metal finish?  Is it klear over a standard Hornby paint job?  Or the hand of a master?

[LNER4479]

I would like to know the answer to the same question (if that's a bog standard Hornby item then it's an impressive finish).

 

I do like the iconic post (#) nos we're going through at the moment. Must find something to comment about in six post's time....

[great northern]

60090 is a stunner - howdya get the superb gloss paint on metal finish?  Is it klear over a standard Hornby paint job?  Or the hand of a master?

 

I would like to know the answer to the same question (if that's a bog standard Hornby item then it's an impressive finish).

 

I do like the iconic post (#) nos we're going through at the moment. Must find something to comment about in six post's time....

It is a standard Hornby A3, but I asked John Houlden to use Klear and I think T Cut to achieve a "straight out of the paint shop" finish, which is how I saw 60090 at Retford in early August 1958. He hadn't tried it before, but you can see that he did an excellent job.

 

I'd noticed these post numbers too, and very appropriate they are. I doubt very much that we shall ever get to the BR equivalents though.

[Worsdell forever]

Yes, it looks 'out of the box' new but certainly not plasticy.

 

(Flying Fox)