RMweb Premium Barry O Posted January 20, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 20, 2014 Larry I have just checked and I have one of these in my "To build" pile .... when it gets built ( and I mean when) it won't be anywhere near as good as the one you have just built - they are different and I can't see them being provided by the RTR or cut and shut teams for a while (if ever) Barry O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip-griffiths Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 LMS D1916 and D1946 open brake third 6-window design was a high capacity design for excursion use. WEB D1916 & D1946 open 3rd.jpg Two were marshalled into one of the Tredegar sets. regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Larry, I am going to ask a very naive question. If you have covered it before then I apologise. When having to paint droplights that are a different colour than the main bodywork, can you offer any advice on the best way of getting a neat finish. I am assuming in this instance that the droplights are already fixed in place. Presumably using cellulose as the main coach colour helps. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Brilliant, would not have thought of using a bow pen. Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Larry, I'm intrigued by the large lavatory windows on these Period II coaches. It's not quite so evident in that last photo, but on some of the others, the window, or at least the frosting, seems to be in three vertical panels? How were they arranged? Whatever, they are an exceptionally attractive design, probably my favourite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Thanks Larry, that explains it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieS Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 An update on the LMS presige D1719 semi-open first's.............I have just completed one in BR blood & custard livery for a change. This livery on such obscure coaches brings back memories of similar vehicles lined up in sidings either awaiting withdrawal or the call of summer duty when the search was on for anything that would carry people. It is doubtful the limited-seating first class coaches would see excursion use however, hence their appearance in sidings and early withdrawal... WEB D1719 6.jpg I decided to etch the characteristic beading below the waist for a change. These models also break my etched-in droplight rule as it is impossible on Period II coaches with raised panelling..... WEB D1719 5.jpg A bit cheeky, this one Coach! Could you run through your cleaning and painting proceedure for brass coaches. It's obviously been refined over the years and as you have built more coaches than anyone else on the planet must be better than mine!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 May I ask where you source your gangway connections? Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibateg Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Such neat work, that grey panel is perfect! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Your history is a bit off.... These 12- wheeler were built as motor drivers and were originally powered by class 12AT 2-40Ts, using a wire control system. As the locos were withdrawn the p&p services fell out of use. In the early thirties they were fitted with vacuum control gear, and were powered by F1 2-4-2Ts and later C13s and N5s. In 1935 one set was in Manchester used on the Glossop-Dinting and the Guide Bridge-Oldham shuttles with one of the ex-railmotor sets; one was at Aylesbury working to Verney Junction, Quainton Road and High Wycombe; the other at Woodford and worked to Banbury and Byfield. By 1945 they were reduce to working just the two Manchester shuttles and by 1954 when the Glossop branch was electrified only the Guide Bridge-Oldham was left. As the push and pull workings were withdrawn from the GC the sets were transferred to the NER area and these 12 wheelers are known to have worked on the Ilkley branch and Selby-Goole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Strewth! Impressive and unique Larry. Wonderful as ever mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 In the mid-fifties the RCTS ran a railtour over the CLC with a 4-4-2T and two coaches. I've got photos in books and prints (Roger Carpenter) somewhere but was one of the coaches one of these? Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2014 Possibly this train? http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/50s/531017rc.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 This looks good. There's a couple of things about the underframe, though. First it had a prominent single queen post and the v hangers were close to the centre as in this photo of another GC 60' coach: Also the Davenport photo shows that the driver trailer had what appear to be gas tanks as well as battery boxes, though I don't understand why. Any information about what was under the solebars would be gratefully received. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Possibly this train? http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/50s/531017rc.htmlYes, that is the train but it doesn't seem to have the coach that Larry's modelling; shame! Never mind. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibateg Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Wonderful work Larry - I remember years ago a group of us had a layout based on the GC Mansfield line. One of the guys turned up with a 12 wheeler 'GC push pull coach' We were most impressed, until on closer examination we found the model was a cut up GW autocoach! Well, I suppose it had the right number of wheels, that was about the most accurate feature really.. Best Regards Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterR Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Hi, The shops called 'The Works' have re-vamped their paint brushes to have a soft section in the handle, and much more important now sell individual 'comb' brushes in their range - as used for graining on teak coaches. I think they are 2 for £1.99; they are not yet on the website (www.theworks.co.uk) Yours Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 No, but I may have an unwanted 5522 kit for a pair somewhere in the stores. Jol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benachie Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Larry, Peters Spares are doing the 6-wheel bogies at £4-37 - just plastic wheels, though. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 For those with an interest in coaching stock, I started to build this LMS D1700 non-corridor third last night while her indoors watched Corrie. Having done a stock check I realised I had sold too many of my own coaches and was short of suburbans. Having no operational layout has left my coaches wrapped as new in drawers and my arm is easily twisted! This coach is an attempt to capture the appearance of LMS panelled stock after wartime/postwar panel replacement. All that below waist level is removed..... WEB D1700 suburban 3rd B.jpg While in the process of mopping up old stock, the interior was built from one of my etched units. It is not light but this coach wont be in anything longer than a 3-coach set.... WEB D1700 suburban 3rd A.jpg Detailed and awaiting painting in LMS maroon with BR insignia..... WEB D1700 suburban 3rd C.jpg Coach Brilliant work - I wish I could build coaches as fast and as well as you. A few questions, if you don't mind. Do you sell your etched seating units / interiors to the public? If so, what is the price and how do I order, please? I see you've got etched vents above the doors - where do you get these, please? What do you use to replicate the alarm gear etc. on the end?. Thanks Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Good to see the partial plated and simplified panelling style, something that was quite common in later years but rarely modelled. Virtually all of the steam stock on the Isle of Wight exhibited wide variations of this type in the last years, some coaches ending up practically panelling-free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Sorry Phil but it would impractical to sell parts separately, as they would have to be put onto new sheets and would end up with the tail wagging the dog. The louvres above the doors are my design (again not for sale), but something similar is available (I think) from 247 Develpments. Train alarm 'gear' is sometimes etched and sometimes fabricated from .45" wire. Nothing goes to waste here and an etched 'handrail knob' that went wrong is being used to make train alarm gear. Thanks for the reply, Coach. Personally, I think it's a shame your interior is not available as a kit somewhere - the idea of the spine along the bottom that the partition dividers and seats attach to (from the pictures I'm assuming that's how you've made them) looks a very good idea. Thanks also for the tip about 247 developments - after looking at their website, they do indeed provide door louvers and they're at Expo EM and Railex, at least one of which I'll get to. The finished coach in unlined LMS postwar maroon with BR M prefix number. Bogies are Dapol. The gloss cellulose had matting agent added instead of varnishing matt resulting in a Hornby-like finish.... WEB D1700 suburban 3rd D.jpg The same paint with matting agent added and without........... WEB D1700 suburban 3rd F.jpg Would you mind letting us know which matting agent you use? I've not come across this technique before but from the pictures, I want to know more! Thanks again and best wishes Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Thanks, Coach. I had an idea and checked our friend Google. Lo and behold, Precision Paints supply a matting agent, so I know who to go to for it now. Who say's inspiration doesn't strike an old brain! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted May 8, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 8, 2014 Thanks, Coach. I had an idea and checked our friend Google. Lo and behold, Precision Paints supply a matting agent, so I know who to go to for it now. Who say's inspiration doesn't strike an old brain! Phil http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acrylic-Mini-X-21-Flat-Base/dp/B000BWZU1G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399567349&sr=8-1&keywords=tamiya+flat+base Works well for me - just add it to acrylic paint, or add to Klear for a satin or matt varnish. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2014 Coach nice work as always... worries me that the time it takes for me to build and paint a coach I could be "doing" my box of coach kits for life..... especially as you seem to be building coaches similar to the ones in my pile of bits... Keep them coming! Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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