davefrk Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) I saw at least 3 16t minerals in the train in the background at just about 51.50 so you can't claim 'NOT a 16 tonner in sight' I'm afraid Duncan. Dave. Edited September 2, 2013 by davefrk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I saw at least 3 16t minerals in the train in the background at just about 51.50 so you can't claim 'NOT a 16 tonner in sight' I'm afraid Duncan. Dave. ...that legitimizes its inclusion then...thanks Dave! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 'Merton Park Studios'- there's a name that resonates- or perhaps not.. I missed the sixteen-tonners, but there was a wonderful selection of 5-plankers. The two SR PMVs shows that they were finished in crud long before the 1970s, and what was that Ferry flat (in the rear left of the final frames? That gun had a big magazine, didn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) ...no wonder nowt ever leaves his work bench ... Sez the Jim McIvor of Railway modelling. How many of your wagons are only painted/lettered/weathered on one side only? Should we be starting a new thread...'NOT 16t mineral'...or is it about time we became a 'special interest' group...just a thought. Go on then... That gun had a big magazine, didn't it? That fella must have been the worst shot in the history of TV baddies. First he accidentally shoots his oppo in the back... then despite having more bullets than Bruce Willis, fails to hit any of the rozzers. Maybe his "piece" fired the slowest bullets ever known? At least we hear him shout the immortal line, "I wouldn't try anything coppers"! If only it had been the perfect, "You'll never take me alive... coppers!" So anyone any Idea of the location of the goods/marshalling yard? Can't have been to many in the London area with overhead tram wires. Porcy Edited September 3, 2013 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Could it have been Hither Green or Bricklayer's Arms? One or two of the wagons, notably the 13t open and the SR Banana van, seemed to be ex-works, perhaps indicating the proximity of New Cross Gate shops. The overhead looks more like the stuff that the Southern Region installed for yard use than anything used for main-line use. I was trying to work out what the loco was, as well- perhaps a 'W' class? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Could it have been Hither Green or Bricklayer's Arms? One or two of the wagons, notably the 13t open and the SR Banana van, seemed to be ex-works, perhaps indicating the proximity of New Cross Gate shops. The overhead looks more like the stuff that the Southern Region installed for yard use than anything used for main-line use. I was trying to work out what the loco was, as well- perhaps a 'W' class? I think you may be right about the general location but not about the motive power; a W was a big 2-6-4 tank! Going on what can be discerned of the tender (straight steps, rear handrail with knobs rather than plain bar), my reckoning is that it's more likely to be an ex-SECR C class. Immedieately before the chap with the gun comes a cropper there is what appears to be a ferry flat, yes; a little before that was a rarity; a 'P' prefixed 5 plank open... Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Can't read any markings on it but that ferry flat looks very French to me, mainly on the strength of the axleboxes. There are a few HMRS photos of that kind of wagon south of London, I'll look them out and see where they were taken. Anyone notice the 5 plank in grey with the 'P' number which he ducked under? That must be fairly unusual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Anyone notice the 5 plank in grey with the 'P' number which he ducked under? That must be fairly unusual. It has gone on the to do list... Over painting of the faded lettering could be a challenge... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 ...a little before that was a rarity; a 'P' prefixed 5 plank open... Adam Er, yes? Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I expect we were typing at the same time - I'm doing several things at once here. Anyway, you'd have been one of the people I'd have put money on to clock that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 3, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3, 2013 I was trying to work out what the loco was, as well- perhaps a 'W' class? Hi Brian I didn't think about a tank loco. I was trying to work out what class of loco had oval buffers on its tender. Strange that it was pretending to be one of them new-fangled diseasels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 March by cabsaab900, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Can't remember seeing this one before. By the inimitable Roy Lambeth. No38 by tanfield.railway, on Flickr Porcy 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 The single 16 tonner near the signalbox is the justification for posting this excellent image!: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96859208@N07/9338635120/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 30586 Wadebridge. 17 July 1962 by ricsrailpics, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Class 20 leaving Bridlington. August 1976 by ricsrailpics, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 30586 Wadebridge. 17 July 1962 by ricsrailpics, on Flickr That first wagon is nice. Standard 108 welded but recently given a general repair and received a pressed end door. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 That first wagon is nice. Standard 108 welded but recently given a general repair and received a pressed end door. Paul I thought it was newly-built until I saw the date. Do you reckon they've enough brake-vans in that train.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Wigan NW top yard in the late 1960's. Tom 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 And a good representation of cars of the era too . I make that two Minis, a brace of BMC 11/1300s (one a Morris), An oldish Hillman Minx/Singer Gazelle, a Super Minx/Vogue of similar era, a 105E Ford Anglia, a Mk1 Cortina late enough to have the 'Aeroflow' vents in the C pillars, a Mk2 Consul which is, I think, pre low-line making it an early example, a Vauxhall Victor FC101 and some flash git has got themselves what must be a near new HB Viva. Not a Morris Minor in sight, although that might be one lurking at the far left, beyond the Anglia and what might be another 1100. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Funny place to park a selection of reasonably tidy cars, next to a load of coal wagons; presumably, the wagons were unloaded elsewhere? On looking again at the first photo, I keep thinking I'm looking at one of Allen Downes's creations.. Edited September 16, 2013 by Fat Controller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Wigan NW top yard in the late 1960's. Has the two box vans had their roofs removed? (Or flat roofs fitted) Looks suspiciously like a waning flash fitted to one. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) I've been seeing a lot of pictures of Class 20s with 16t mineral wagons, not a class I associate with these freight flows and especially not when the 20s are in BR blue with TOPS numbers. A selection below of some of the more atmospheric. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/8259910009/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/8644293327/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7800803070/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/5537902634/ 1979-07-06-005 by Michael Laing, on Flickr 1979-07-06-006 by Michael Laing, on Flickr And this one's included as it shows a double-header 20 with both running nose first: http://www.flickr.com/photos/56249446@N06/7888248740/ Edited September 16, 2013 by BR(S) 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Here are some I've been building/painting/weathering for my next layout. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asa Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 A lovely job Ruston. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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