Horsetan Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) How is it even possible to get a model not long out into such a mess: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-class-85-/251561307164?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item3a9238ec1c Another way of looking at it is that you are paying 45 quid for a CKD P4 model. And it really is completely knocked down. I'd be tempted to say it was ****ed, wouldn't you? Edited June 16, 2014 by Horsetan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Blimey - I paid £55 for a brand new one within the last year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Blimey - I paid £55 for a brand new one within the last year! It's gone down to 40 quid now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2014 How is it even possible to get a model not long out into such a mess: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-class-85-/251561307164?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item3a9238ec1c . And it really is completely knocked down. Knocked down? More like knocked off - it is from Merseyside after all........................... (Apologies to offended scousers) Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted June 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2014 Not model railways I know but "Please see pic for what you will receive". Now I know Lego do translucent bricks but really?!? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lego-28-/121364752153?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item1c41e72719 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted June 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2014 Not model railways I know but "Please see pic for what you will receive". Now I know Lego do translucent bricks but really?!? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lego-28-/121364752153?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item1c41e72719 He's got 30 items all the same! Perhaps they're just placeholders, and when he's got something to sell he'll change the picture, and possibly the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted June 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2014 How is it even possible to get a model not long out into such a mess: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-class-85-/251561307164?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item3a9238ec1c The seller will place in padded bag & blame the postal service! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted June 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2014 Ebay should have a option add to bag instead of basket so no bits are lost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted June 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2014 He's got 30 items all the same! Perhaps they're just placeholders, and when he's got something to sell he'll change the picture, and possibly the price. Waverley Deltic or whatever non-de-plume he uses these days used to use the same tactic to take advantage of free listing days. I used to report him to Ebay regularly but these days Ebay 1) no longer offer the option to report the specific offence of blank listings and 2) they don't seem to care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted June 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2014 but these days Ebay 1) ...... 2) they don't seem to care. I agree John. That's why I don't care to report anything to Ebay anymore. They don't seem to care and if I contact the seller I usually get either a smart alec answer, or an abusive one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR lives on Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 It looks a nice build and not something you get built very often, but the price? ? ? ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OO-GAUGE-KIT-BUILT-LNWR-CORNWALL-AND-WEBB-COUPE-/131217587701?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item1e8d2d7df5#ht_5351wt_1399 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 It looks a nice build and not something you get built very often, but the price? ? ? ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OO-GAUGE-KIT-BUILT-LNWR-CORNWALL-AND-WEBB-COUPE-/131217587701?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item1e8d2d7df5#ht_5351wt_1399 Rails have a very optimistic buy-it-now policy for kit built stuff, it'll come around again for less I'm sure... Paul A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Road Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 It looks a nice build and not something you get built very often, but the price? ? ? ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OO-GAUGE-KIT-BUILT-LNWR-CORNWALL-AND-WEBB-COUPE-/131217587701?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item1e8d2d7df5#ht_5351wt_1399 Wow that looks a very posh ride . Nice price as well . Mike b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) I agree John. That's why I don't care to report anything to Ebay anymore. They don't seem to care and if I contact the seller I usually get either a smart alec answer, or an abusive one. Colin. At least you got a reply from the sellers. I have contacted the traders who persistently describe RTR items as kit built and have never had a single reply. Andy. Edited June 17, 2014 by andytrains Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 ...the traders who persistently describe RTR items as kit blt .... There is only one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted June 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2014 He might try to sell you a reply. In kit form of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'd expect a slightly clearer description in the title/main photo from such a respected seller. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heljan-OO-4611-CLASS-47-826-SPRINGBURN-INTERCITY-DIESEL-LOCOMOTIVE-/131212504398?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item1e8cdfed4e Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'd expect a slightly clearer description in the title/main photo from such a respected seller. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heljan-OO-4611-CLASS-47-826-SPRINGBURN-INTERCITY-DIESEL-LOCOMOTIVE-/131212504398?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item1e8cdfed4e What's missing? "Knackered Class 47"? Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 'One careful owner' And several rotten ones......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted June 18, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'd expect a slightly clearer description in the title/main photo from such a respected seller. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heljan-OO-4611-CLASS-47-826-SPRINGBURN-INTERCITY-DIESEL-LOCOMOTIVE-/131212504398?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item1e8cdfed4e Haha I'm laughing at the description but the buyer will be crying, there is nothing salvagable once the Heljan 47 does that beyond the mechanism there!! I had one that went 'pop' - opened the box one day to find the metal had twisted and expanded by almost half an inch over the course of a few years, wouldn't even sit on the track! £70's expensive for some bogies and a motor! Rails of Sheffield used to be my chosen stock supplier and always appeared pretty respectable 'back in the day' but having seen many of their eBay auctions over the last 5 years, they're losing my trust even as a new RTR seller (will it really be new?) - just got to hope the likes of Hattons don't follow the same path! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 And, although it mentions broken cab, see photos, the one photo does its best not to show the damage! And they imply its a restoration project, needing to obtain a new chassis and body there's not much point buying this as well. I would expect a reputable dealer to send items with a clear manufacturing defect back to the manufacturer to be fixed before selling it on, even if they were caught by the one who sold it to them. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2014 Eh? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heljan-OO-Gauge-3502-Class-35-Diesel-Locomotive-Hymek-D7036-in-BR-Blue-/201013373198 Ah well at least you get a two month warranty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Eh? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heljan-OO-Gauge-3502-Class-35-Diesel-Locomotive-Hymek-D7036-in-BR-Blue-/201013373198 Ah well at least you get a two month warranty. That guy "UKPartsdeal" comes up from time to time with silly prices. With a name like that you'd not expect him to be based in Hamburg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Eh? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heljan-OO-Gauge-3502-Class-35-Diesel-Locomotive-Hymek-D7036-in-BR-Blue-/201013373198 Ah well at least you get a two month warranty. Both of mine cost about 40 quid each!! That guy "UKPartsdeal" comes up from time to time with silly prices. With a name like that you'd not expect him to be based in Hamburg. ...with a business accommodation address in the US. The words "dodgy", "long" and "bargepole" spring to mind... Edited June 18, 2014 by Horsetan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted June 18, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2014 That guy "UKPartsdeal" comes up from time to time with silly prices. With a name like that you'd not expect him to be based in Hamburg. The seller apears to be either based in New Jersey or uses a New Jersey address as post box, They ship from various countries including China and deal in a range of poducts, not just models. I think they may be a business rather than an individual seller and at times they appear to have more than one ebay ID. Their VAT registration is prefixed US. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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