2E Sub Shed Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 31 minutes ago, Hroth said: New Old Stock, perhaps. But the power cable looks anachronistic... Very old stock - plug has no sleeves on live and neutral pins. BS:1363 was modified in 1984 to require sleeved live and neutral pins. From https://www.pat-testing-training.net/articles/non-sleeved-plugs.php "Non-sleeved plugs must be replaced on equipment that is hired out, second-hand equipment offered for sale, or appliances that are included in rental accommodation. This equipment is covered by the Plug & Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994. These regulations apply to all electrical equipment supplied during the course of a business". 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I was going by the cable colour, my Duette has grey cable, I associate black with more "modern" equipment. Thanks for pointing out the plug, must admit I've still got lamps that have white bakelite plugs on them... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 hours ago, Paul H Vigor said: I guess Hell will freeze over before it reaches 99p!? If you peruse Dante's Inferno, Cantos 32 to 34, you will see that Hell has already frozen over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, 2E Sub Shed said: Very old stock - plug has no sleeves on live and neutral pins. BS:1363 was modified in 1984 to require sleeved live and neutral pins. From https://www.pat-testing-training.net/articles/non-sleeved-plugs.php "Non-sleeved plugs must be replaced on equipment that is hired out, second-hand equipment offered for sale, or appliances that are included in rental accommodation. This equipment is covered by the Plug & Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994. These regulations apply to all electrical equipment supplied during the course of a business". But he is a private seller, or at least he purports to be - which maybe means he doesnt plan on declaring his profit to the Revenue. They probably included that caveat in the regs because they didn't like the idea of Joe Public replacing 13A plugs on old appliances he was flogging at a car boot sale or on Ebay. Edited April 25 by Michael Hodgson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25 4 hours ago, kevinlms said: A NEW H&M Duette? I don't think so. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126348440406?itmmeta=01HWAYZ911FPQPZVQH324P7WWA&hash=item1d6af43356:g:ATYAAOSwrhFl23Mx "Only used to test. Very nice unit when in a mint un used condition." Which this one obviously isn't, so therefore it's not a very nice unit? Mike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I rather like scary old electrical items, like this one which lurks in our living room. Rewired, cleaned and tested by my brother in law, a former aircraft engineer, it's absolutely fine. The components are so heavy duty, you'd have to look inside a modern military radio to find anything similar. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjcm Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I have 3 of those duettes, one I use every day for testing. Hasn't blown up yet, touch wood, but I wouldn't pay 100 quid for one, or sell one. One of my favorite YouTube channels is a guy who gets working pre-70s televisions and radios.. When I say gets working, he doesn't repair or restore them because they are too far gone, but finds them dumped by the side of the road or down mines and does just enough to get them working so no replacement of leaky capacitors etc.. He's basically fearless of high voltage from being an ex repairman so half the fun is watching what will catch fire when he turns on a tv he's just jetwashed to get the mud out of 😲. He's actually very safety orientated and these are 1+ hour long serious tutorials,but every now and then he has a bit of fun - wired this microwave into one of those retro 2000's Crossley record player stereos and the resulting smoke and fire had the neighbours phoning him up thinking his house was on fire. "No, I'm having a barbecue"😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/386961611883?itmmeta=01HWEERCFN7XBBBTMW56DM0BED&hash=item5a18b59c6b:g:HGUAAOSwRjlmLAr0&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0C3XcIAZ1eT9fsmWU74xXQb%2Fd8UwDYalarTb8TCE26wvon%2BOx4r21pwq4aKmeFjyLWHE%2BArcbIMLRA7YvbTkLFQL%2BLQGMZ9QMzPztLrJX%2B7IV6CEo8vSJ9TE8KD4twbGpRa0paxHnzTtmvP4gSffAzEENYSi6USJNjPbe2Io%2BSUHmOWoWF7sCI7URXufpvplf8UduQweEIxltYo6sNKP31g%2BYUszRXK6V7i3PHIlSPHYwpUKgLvcHYUlpWBf3caWW4YoXXZKzQ8%2FvdNVPiONAYw%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_LH4c7jYw "Kit Built Metal Loco"?? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 5 hours ago, Paul H Vigor said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/386961611883?itmmeta=01HWEERCFN7XBBBTMW56DM0BED&hash=item5a18b59c6b:g:HGUAAOSwRjlmLAr0&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0C3XcIAZ1eT9fsmWU74xXQb%2Fd8UwDYalarTb8TCE26wvon%2BOx4r21pwq4aKmeFjyLWHE%2BArcbIMLRA7YvbTkLFQL%2BLQGMZ9QMzPztLrJX%2B7IV6CEo8vSJ9TE8KD4twbGpRa0paxHnzTtmvP4gSffAzEENYSi6USJNjPbe2Io%2BSUHmOWoWF7sCI7URXufpvplf8UduQweEIxltYo6sNKP31g%2BYUszRXK6V7i3PHIlSPHYwpUKgLvcHYUlpWBf3caWW4YoXXZKzQ8%2FvdNVPiONAYw%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_LH4c7jYw "Kit Built Metal Loco"?? Well. Whoever assembled it in China worked from a kit of parts, and it must contain SOME metal, but yes, I know what you mean! 🤪 Going Cheap? At least they have the courtesy to start the listing at under the original selling price... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27 Yeah, but a series of photos that do not show the loco outside the box and from other angles shouts 'chiseller getting rid of faulty item' pretty loud to my ears! I'd be very wary of this item. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133903900608?itmmeta=01HWGGNTCMD5T3VX3HDQZVHYTS&hash=item1f2d4b5fc0:g:F6oAAOSwLQphaAgt&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwL58dc2SRfA2lD4FfF2jN8ibAsHGaBx%2BgU7ADuKcKTVpW%2Bwz1TumV5gmGG5g27NsouOjKobBNb3dg3Di9lxc4kgUDqi8O%2BELnsgcdtUYLKe2%2B41jNxh7GCgnwNB9qXhmguK85XlsfUdpZrXlFIDaNKK77Gevg9%2FpG%2BHoOr0R%2BHR8BwMzSc9DXXXomMCARPmVmFiXm4RHVtwocB%2FIyQi60k7tjVVqqx0S%2FJFUYCxjQFWA2Y3zYavT4koF8yPdy9DIuQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR7Sm15DkYw Just a wee bit rough for £174.50?? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 A bit bent! 🤪 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 29 minutes ago, Hroth said: A bit bent! 🤪 Oh, I say! 😎 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 A bit of fixing up and removal of the black paint (Dulux applied using next door's cat as a brush?) and it would actually look pretty good. Not £175 good though. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 12 hours ago, Paul H Vigor said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133903900608?itmmeta=01HWGGNTCMD5T3VX3HDQZVHYTS&hash=item1f2d4b5fc0:g:F6oAAOSwLQphaAgt&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwL58dc2SRfA2lD4FfF2jN8ibAsHGaBx%2BgU7ADuKcKTVpW%2Bwz1TumV5gmGG5g27NsouOjKobBNb3dg3Di9lxc4kgUDqi8O%2BELnsgcdtUYLKe2%2B41jNxh7GCgnwNB9qXhmguK85XlsfUdpZrXlFIDaNKK77Gevg9%2FpG%2BHoOr0R%2BHR8BwMzSc9DXXXomMCARPmVmFiXm4RHVtwocB%2FIyQi60k7tjVVqqx0S%2FJFUYCxjQFWA2Y3zYavT4koF8yPdy9DIuQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR7Sm15DkYw Just a wee bit rough for £174.50?? I wonder how Bachmann would feel having their name attached to it? I mean, it’s either kit built or Bachmann - and that ain’t Bachmann! 🤔 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 22 minutes ago, SteveyDee68 said: I wonder how Bachmann would feel having their name attached to it? I mean, it’s either kit built or Bachmann - and that ain’t Bachmann! 🤔 Mr G's creative writing?? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Just now, Paul H Vigor said: Mr G's creative writing?? Thanks for the reminder - I’ve been busy of late and so did not recognise his alter ego selling name - of course this is just par for the course for He Who Shall Not Be Paid … HOURS OF FUN! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted April 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28 10 hours ago, Hroth said: A bit bent! 🤪 Ar you referring to the item or the seller???? 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 35 minutes ago, Paul H Vigor said: Mr G's creative writing?? He really should be in the running for a Goldsmith's Prize for fiction writing. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 57 minutes ago, MrWolf said: He really should be in the running for a Goldsmith's Prize for fiction writing. Gothic horror!? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, Paul H Vigor said: Mr G's creative writing?? 1 hour ago, MrWolf said: He really should be in the running for a Goldsmith's Prize for fiction writing. 47 minutes ago, Paul H Vigor said: Gothic horror!? Perhaps his nom-de-plume for this item should have been "The Little Antique Toy Shop of Horrors"... 🤔 🤪 2 hours ago, rab said: Ar you referring to the item or the seller???? Welllll..... 🤪 Edited April 28 by Hroth missed out a word 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberValleyRailway Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226100192583? So many questions... It's not even a Hornby wagon in the thumbnail! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28 15 minutes ago, TimberValleyRailway said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226100192583? So many questions... It's not even a Hornby wagon in the thumbnail! Must be trying to outdo Gostude, he's got nine up for sale all identical and all at £90 plus £8 postage, dream on. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 But an R3220 is an old model B12.... 🤔 And even that ain't worth £90! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crantock Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 A Facebook advert suggests this for me. Ugly was my first thought. Then the price. Be careful not to press buy!! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226062321151?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=isIpBFAbT7a&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=MmpE2CE-Rj-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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