Andrew P Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Jeff, you are closing in on 300 pages, will you get there by the end of the Month? AND STILL NO GRASS. :no: :no: :no: Bodgit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted June 28, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2013 Come on Jeff, give us the pics, don't be afraid, JUST BE VERY AFRAID, hahahaa Bodgit Jeff, you are closing in on 300 pages, will you get there by the end of the Month? AND STILL NO GRASS. :no: :no: :no: Bodgit Hi Andy. Just got home - so a week without any bunker work. I think there'll be grass by the end of July, but we'll see.... To be honest, I'll be well miffed if there isn't!! Walls, ballasting, grass.... As Mike and Andy have intimated, some of us would really like to see how you go about it with the HBL.... Very pleased to hear about the SMP btw! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted June 28, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2013 I seem to remember the phrase "and lead us not into temptation..." somewhere in the past..... Went into the bunker at 6pm to do a bit of walling - first practical thing for a week. 90 minutes later I hadn't laid a stone - oh dear, running a 9F, 2 Peppercorns, a Jubilee and my new Austerity was far more entertaining. To my credit, I did check a lot of turnout motors and route settings were functioning correctly, running locos in both forward and reverse. So I suppose "I did good (!!!!)" in the end! Jeff 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted June 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2013 I don't think anyone will condemn you for that Jeff, even with your layout as it is now, seeing trains running over that viaduct and through the scenery must be great. Envious apprentice Lune (if I'm allowed) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted June 28, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2013 I don't think anyone will condemn you for that Jeff, even with your layout as it is now, seeing trains running over that viaduct and through the scenery must be great. Envious apprentice Lune (if I'm allowed) Al, with your splendid work on Bakewell, you have passed your Lunester internship with flying colours. Welcome to the ranks of the totally insane (Bodgit), the sensible (!) ...erm, can't think of anybody... and the whole spectrum in-between! Uber-Lune-Fuhrer Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Jeff Good to have you back in the bunker. There's nothing wrong with playing running the locos after a break. Obviously a successful testing session. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) Hi Rob. I'm aware of your allergic reaction to diesels. I quite like them, though I haven't bought any this year (a 37 and 2 40s in the pipeline). As for kettles - more on the way, photos when possible. Btw, there is a beautifully weathered WD on the TMC website. If you search "WD" you'll see the one I mean - "rusty" as hell! Jeff Oh I'm not averse to diesels and one of the most exciting rides I have ever had in my illbegotten life was behind a diesel engine, and that includes many hair-raising fast motorbike rides ( youthful physical abilities in advance of brain development mostly). It (the train ride) was a 52 mile non-stop part of a run with a late Auckland-Wellington summer daytime express, running about 35 mins late, the driver was so keen he was air-braking deep into corners, 10-15 chain radius at worst, with passengers almost gripping the seats, and loose luggage in danger of falling off racks, I think we made about 25 minutes on schedule with an average of a shade over 50mph. The engine was geared for 62mph max. This was akin to lapping the IOM on a 500cc production Triumph twin at 99mph AVERAGE, as was done I think in 1971, with a bike which could barely reach 115mph. That railway ride gave me my first understanding of feathering throttle, braking and sliding a fast road bike on tarmac. But I digress, as ever, Rob Edited June 28, 2013 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted June 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2013 Oh I'm not averse to diesels and one of the most exciting rides I have ever had in my illbegotten life was behind a diesel engine, and that includes many hair-raising fast motorbike rides ( youthful physical abilities in advance of brain development mostly). You know, I misread that completely the first time I read it, and I was wracking my brains to think of a production diesel motorbike you could have ridden in your youth Then I went back and read it properly... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Jeff, yes I have the weathered WDs at TMC poor sad slow clunking machines that they were. Honest as the day was long, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted June 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2013 Al, with your splendid work on Bakewell, you have passed your Lunester internship with flying colours. Welcome to the ranks of the totally insane (Bodgit), the sensible (!) ...erm, can't think of anybody... and the whole spectrum in-between! Uber-Lune-Fuhrer Jeff That is very kind of you, really it is. I still feel like a very junior member in such company. You have some of the best modellers I have ever seen within your ranks. Al (proud-to-be-a-Lune) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I seem to remember the phrase "and lead us not into temptation..." somewhere in the past..... Went into the bunker at 6pm to do a bit of walling - first practical thing for a week. 90 minutes later I hadn't laid a stone - oh dear, running a 9F, 2 Peppercorns, a Jubilee and my new Austerity was far more entertaining. To my credit, I did check a lot of turnout motors and route settings were functioning correctly, running locos in both forward and reverse. So I suppose "I did good (!!!!)" in the end! Jeff Evening Jeff, I hope your WD runs as good as mine, it is so slow you can hardly tell if it is moving, leave it for a few moments and you can see that it has in fact moved about an inch. Nowt wrong wiv palyin traaains lad as you Northerners say. Bodgit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted June 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2013 That is very kind of you, really it is. I still feel like a very junior member in such company. You have some of the best modellers I have ever seen within your ranks. Al (proud-to-be-a-Lune) There are some very good modellers on here, but I fear I might be an apprentice somewhat longer! I don't blame Jeff for having a play testing session, just right to get back into the feel of things. Infact I think I'd have something rumbling round while i was working on it! Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted June 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2013 Well having read through page 39, it would appear that Bogit has three methods The first is to lay it normally and just rough it, The second is to lay it normally and trim it short. The third way is to paint the area as Jeff has done, then lay on another mix of PVA and paint and wait for it to go tacky, once it has gone tacky, lay on the Basket Liner fury side down, and pres it in hard and leave it for a few days to really go off, then pull off the backing. I used all three methods on St Budoc for the field, meadow and rough grass Now is it possible for Baron to elaborate on which method he used for each type of grass please? I had a thought tonight (while SWMBO was giving me the silent treatment) that the little tuffs of grass that you see in wet areas could be made from toothbrush bristles painted green. Is there a better (non static method - I can't afford that route!) way of doing this sort of thing? Andy G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Well having read through page 39, it would appear that Bogit has three methods The first is to lay it normally and just rough it, The second is to lay it normally and trim it short. The third way is to paint the area as Jeff has done, then lay on another mix of PVA and paint and wait for it to go tacky, once it has gone tacky, lay on the Basket Liner fury side down, and pres it in hard and leave it for a few days to really go off, then pull off the backing. I used all three methods on St Budoc for the field, meadow and rough grass Now is it possible for Baron to elaborate on which method he used for each type of grass please? I had a thought tonight (while SWMBO was giving me the silent treatment) that the little tuffs of grass that you see in wet areas could be made from toothbrush bristles painted green. Is there a better (non static method - I can't afford that route!) way of doing this sort of thing? Andy G Hi Andy, I only ever had one bit of grass from the Garden Center and used it in all three ways. Don't forget that with the last method, let it go hard, a week maybe. And don't forget that you can also add to it with Flock, Static, Foliage, Bramble, etc. Bodgit 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted June 29, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2013 Now is it possible for Baron to elaborate on which method he used for each type of grass please? I had a thought tonight (while SWMBO was giving me the silent treatment) that the little tuffs of grass that you see in wet areas could be made from toothbrush bristles painted green. Is there a better (non static method - I can't afford that route!) way of doing this sort of thing? Andy G You can buy clumps of tufty grass in the Silflor range, available from International Models. Very good - but quite pricey. I need to get a few packs! Woodland Scenics do a "Field Grass" product which I think is made from horse hair. The strands can be cut into shorter sections and dipped into a blob of PVA to resemble reeds etc. I've included a pic from a few years back showing a collection of "reeds" in a pond on the old layout. Excuse the trains running on the wrong lines! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted June 29, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2013 Evening Jeff, I hope your WD runs as good as mine, it is so slow you can hardly tell if it is moving, leave it for a few moments and you can see that it has in fact moved about an inch. Nowt wrong wiv palyin traaains lad as you Northerners say. Bodgit Andy, it's an absolute beauty. Ran very well straight out of the box and its slow motion, now it's run-in, is commendable. The WD will be heading to TMC in a few weeks time for a dose of heavy weathering..... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted June 29, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2013 That is very kind of you, really it is. I still feel like a very junior member in such company. You have some of the best modellers I have ever seen within your ranks. Al (proud-to-be-a-Lune) Morning Al. The thing that has surprised me (over the last year or so) is how much fun - and how well it (sometimes) works - if you're prepared to have-a-go and try out different things. The Lunesters, and quite a number of the layout threads on the Forum, are full of ideas and suggestions and it's hard not to pick up new techniques/approaches to problems. I don't think I could be an active member of RMweb if I wasn't actually doing something. Watching people like Bodgit and Jason makes me "itch" to get stuck in and build things! It's definitely addictive!!!! Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Jeff, How can the Bodgit be compared to the likes of you, Jason, George and now Al? Bodge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted June 29, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2013 Jeff, How can the Bodgit be compared to the likes of you, Jason, George and now Al? Bodge Andy - you may not scratchbuild bridges, viaducts, walls etc, but you scratchbuild LAYOUTS - with superb effect, irrespective of the warp speed with which you construct them!! Please don't put yourself down! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Andy - you may not scratchbuild bridges, viaducts, walls etc, but you scratchbuild LAYOUTS - with superb effect, irrespective of the warp speed with which you construct them!! Please don't put yourself down! Jeff Hi Jeff, cheers but I can assure you that Bute Road will be a much slower process, I night even start a thread tomorrow as at Midnight 20 its a bit late/early to start thinking of something sane to say, EVEN ME CAN'T BE THAT CLEVER, hahaaahaaahha Bodgiy the Bodger, Bodgit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted June 30, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2013 Andy - you may not scratchbuild bridges, viaducts, walls etc, but you scratchbuild LAYOUTS - with superb effect, irrespective of the warp speed with which you construct them!! Please don't put yourself down! Jeff Hear, hear! (And no Bodgit, that doesn't mean you're deaf!) We all have different skills, Jeff's are carpentry, plastering and dry-stone walling, Rob's include stunning model photography, (no, not that sort of model, please keep up!) and mine... erm... are apparently sticking bits of plastikard together and copying other people... Yours, however, could fill a book, and probably should. Your painting is awesome, your ability to make a landscape believable, in any scale, is amazing, and you appear to build layouts by waving a magic wand, you do it so quickly and so well. nuff said. Al 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted June 30, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2013 Hi Jeff, cheers but I can assure you that Bute Road will be a much slower process, I night even start a thread tomorrow as at Midnight 20 its a bit late/early to start thinking of something sane to say, EVEN ME CAN'T BE THAT CLEVER, hahaaahaaahha Bodgiy the Bodger, Bodgit That's great news as I'm sure we'll have plenty to discuss. You may need to inspire me to get going again as I'm presently sidelined by being away and working on the patio project (see Lounge for recent pics). For those KL watchers waiting for something new to happen, I think I'll manage a bit of walling and some ballast testing this week..... we will see! Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) Agh Jeff, yes ballast testing, that I am looking forward to watching with great interest as I have only ever done Peco and that's about 3ft deep, but it does cover up all my BAD track laying. I will be popping over to Bacup and having another read of Jasons methods and exploits as well again soon, (NO NOT THAT SOON) First I need a plan. Your brick work inside and outside the Bunker is really impressive and you could come OUT OF RETIREMENT and start a NEW PROFESSION, hahaaa What do you mean, NOT ENOUGH TIME? Bodgit Edited June 30, 2013 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 ... First I need a plan. ... Bodgit That's the voice I hear about 2am most mornings. But I ignore it studiously, being devoted to a life of random events. I do look forward to a new thread involving tracklaying. You get the pain, I get to read about it. Excellent. Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Hi Rob, Whilst Jeff is away lets hi jack the thread and get him to 300 pages of dribble, hahaaaa On a more serious note, it is amazing that when the pics stop coming, then new ideas dry up and it all goes very spookilly quiet on here. Where is the main man? Maybe he is planting the GRASS, AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH :scared: Bodgit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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