georgeT Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 Hello Duncan, Yes you had better wait until its dry before spraying, the hair dryer trick wont work as well if its damp, so you better wait, wont be long before with are back in the days of endless sunshine hahaha George.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
51E Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Hi George Really like the K class. Have to admit I have a bit of a soft spot for these loco's. I've built a few, all in 4mm. Are you planning to line it in Mixed traffic livery? If so i'm affraid you got the wrong cab on the loco. They were rebuilt I think by the Southern before BR got hold of them and i've not seen a picture of one in BR livery with the early cab style. There's quite a few differences and they vary from loco to loco. Hope this helps and i don't mean to be a party pooper. It's a lovely build all the same and i'd love to build one myself in 7mm. Cheers 51E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 Hello 51E, Not a party pooper at all, l didn't realise when l bought the kit from ACE that it was indeed the southern one, further searching found that as you rightly say were ALL altered by the SR with the N / U Class type cab, l guess l should have asked ACE if they could sell me the corret cab, So l guess it will have to be a southern loco in plain black with 2347 and southern on the tender, The first kit l ever built was in fact a (Kays) K Class in white metal in the late 70s, oh well live and learn, Thank's for the input anyway.. George.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
51E Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 No problem George. You need to check what number you do as another difference between loco's is the number of boiler bands. Some had 3, others had 4. Not sure why. Cheers 51E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 l guess l should have asked ACE if they could sell me the corret cab, Hi George, just before Christmas I bought a C1 Altlantic from Ace and William supplied me with a Cab from the their A3 kit so that I can build a model of 4419 which had a booster engine fitted to the rear wheels and so had it's cab altered to accommodate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 Hi Rob / 51E, Will have a chat to William at ACE tomorrow, to see if l can buy the correct cab for my 'K'class, if not l don't think it would be to difficult to build one from scratch, seems to be similar to the Fowler 4f cab l built a while ago, as l would really like to have her in BR mixed traffic livery, thanks again. George.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 George I think it would look great in BR mixed traffic livery. Hopefuly you can get one from ACE, if not I would love to see a step by step scratch build of the cab. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 Hello Duncan, Sratchbuilding a cab for my 'K' would be pretty straight forward as you could do it in one piece and carefully bend it to shape, as l did when l made my 4f, they look similar.. George.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Thanks George. Looks like I have a hell of a lot to learn about 'real' locos before I think about starting my next layout. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Hi George, I have just caught up on here and see you are getting to grips with your little dilema, I hope you can sorce a cab, if not as you say with your skills you can soon fabricate one. Will you use Brass or Nickle this time? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
51E Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Hi George You might be better doing it as a late Southern one as you'd need to change the Dome to a flattened one, a shorter chimney and 2 safety valves instead of the 4. Cheers 51E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 According to a post by Geoff on 29 Nov 2012 on the G0G members forum (Geoff Holt's New Book thread) Part 2 is all written and with Wild Swan. Final proofs were expected by Geoff in mid-Feb and then the book would go to print. Wild Swan seems to be a computer-free zone so things move at a rather ponderous pace - particularly when a book is eagerly awaited! Dave The latest edition of MRJ (221) has an advert for part 2 but no availability date yet. Alan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 Hi, Have had a re-think on my Billington 'K' Class, l just went ahead making the kit without thinking about the end product, now its all finished l have found out with the help of 51E and others that is wrong for the BR version, so l will make the correct cab, change the dome, and get different safety valves, also there is some different pipework on both sides of the loco to alter too, l have found two good photos for reference to copy 32345, hopefully l will have the correct 'K' Class in the end, Thanks for all your help.. George.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 George It will be interesting to see the changes you're making Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Good Luck with the changes mate. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Hi Andy, Thanks l need it, put some fox transfers on the A1x, still lots to do on her, bufferbeams, cab roof, and touch up all round, but its a start ? George.. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY NORWOOD Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Hi George The A1x looks fantastic. Was it scratchbuilt or a kit. RAY70B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hello Ray, The 'A1X' is an ACE kit, with a JPL chassis, George. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boeing757 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hi George, There are a number of folk, especially in the GOG who are very quick to dismiss the Ace kits. You have shown that they can be finished to a very satisfactory level, nice work. I have a J69 and an N7 to do when time permits and your Terrier has just pushed them to the top of the roundtuits pile! All the Best, Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hello Bob, l found the Ace kits a big challenge, l learned from many people in the hobby that they were indeed hard work, and they were not wrong, the big problem l found was nothing was really square, and the tabs did not marry up with whatever they should have done, But in the end for £99 what else did l expect, after all l was going to scratch build an A1x anyway, then l would have had to search for all the castings l would have needed, l thought get the kit and go for it, as an aid to scratch building, with all that taken on board it was good fun to build even though its not 100% correct. had to change the chassis, l managed to get one from JPL with the coupling rods and plungers.. The 'K' Class from Ace is just the same, hard work, but fun, and cheap, thanks for dropping in.. Regards George.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I have a J69 and an N7 to do when time permits and your Terrier has just pushed them to the top of the roundtuits pile! All the Best, Bob Hi Bob, I hope that you are going to share the builds with us? I now have 3 Ace kits in the pile so it would be nice to share our experiences Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Looking good mate, what sort of pick up arrangement are you going for, plunger or wipers? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I agree with George, the Ace kits build into lovely models, you as a modeller have to put a little more into them. For me I would rather have for my own use 2 or 3 Ace kits with my input than a shake the box kit. My A1 was from them was built as one of the versions not in the kit. I was very pleased with the way it turned out. If you don't want to put anything into your models they wont be for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 A kit is only as good as your own confidence, (quoting George Tait, 2013) :locomotive: Andy :sungum: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 Changed the lining on the 'Terrier' a little and added the correct emblem, didn't like the early one, there is still plenty to do like paint the bufferbeam red and the dics white, brake details on the chassis etc, but shes almost ready for service on 'Abbot's Bridge' to do a bit of shunting ? George.. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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