Staffordshire Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I have an obscure question, which I wondered if anyone could answer .... 35013 Blue Funnel, I believe ran in original condition with a Cut down tender. Does anyone know the arrangement of the Vacuum Cylinders on the top rear of the tender - I believe there were variations and differing cover types ?? Thanks in advance, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted July 11, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, Staffordshire said: I have an obscure question, which I wondered if anyone could answer .... 35013 Blue Funnel, I believe ran in original condition with a Cut down tender. Does anyone know the arrangement of the Vacuum Cylinders on the top rear of the tender - I believe there were variations and differing cover types ?? Thanks in advance, Ian Merchant Navy tenders are a bit of a minefield but SREmG group's site has some doumentation here - https://www.sremg.org.uk/steam/mn-ten.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cofga Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 On 05/07/2023 at 12:19, Dunsignalling said: The rebuilt WC was partially retooled several years ago with DCC sound fitting in mind. You'll need to find one with the 4-way plug lead connection between loco and tender. That will give you the socket and a speaker space in the tender. The older sort has the socket in the loco but only room for a speaker in the tender so is likely to need much more work. John I have installed the decoder and a sugar cube speaker in the boiler. There is just enough room for the speaker under the chimney opening. I used a Soundtraxx Econami UK steam sound decoder which has the Southern whistle and is small enough to fit. I am sure you can get an appropriate sized Zimo or LokSound decoder. Try YouChoos for the Zimo and speaker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingleycustom Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 11/07/2023 at 11:34, Staffordshire said: I have an obscure question, which I wondered if anyone could answer .... 35013 Blue Funnel, I believe ran in original condition with a Cut down tender. Does anyone know the arrangement of the Vacuum Cylinders on the top rear of the tender - I believe there were variations and differing cover types ?? Thanks in advance, Ian Information from: Bulleid Power - The 'Merchant Navy' Class by A J Fry (Alan Sutton Publishing, 1990): A large cover, the width of the coal bunker, completely enclosed the vacuum cylinders. Tender No.3124 (running with 35013) was modified this way in December 1952. Tenders 3122 (35012) and 3121 (35011) were modified in the same manner. Regards, Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffordshire Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 8 hours ago, mattingleycustom said: Information from: Bulleid Power - The 'Merchant Navy' Class by A J Fry (Alan Sutton Publishing, 1990): A large cover, the width of the coal bunker, completely enclosed the vacuum cylinders. Tender No.3124 (running with 35013) was modified this way in December 1952. Tenders 3122 (35012) and 3121 (35011) were modified in the same manner. Regards, Glenn Perfect, thank you very much for this information .... Will post a couple of photos when model is complete .. Cheers, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted July 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Does anyone have drawings of a Bulleid Pacific whistle as I want to make one for one of my locos on Exhill - I model in 7/8ths scale... Many thanks in advance Edited July 24, 2023 by John Besley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, John Besley said: Does anyone have drawings of a Bulleid Pacific whistle as I want to make one for one of my locos on Exhill - I model in 7/8ths scale... Many thanks in advance What style of Bulleid pacific are you building? You probably require to get a copy of SR Drawing "E32891 Whistle valve and details" from the NRM as this shows the whistle and its constituent parts as well as the early (pre 1952) type of isolation valve. Edited July 25, 2023 by Graham_Muz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2023 Many thanks Graham I'll dig into that 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, John Besley said: Does anyone have drawings of a Bulleid Pacific whistle as I want to make one for one of my locos on Exhill - I model in 7/8ths scale... Many thanks in advance Good news and bad news, I have on a very ancient Windows computer over 1300 Southern Railway drawings of Bulleid Pacific details including the one you want. The bad news is, I can’t quite work out how to extract them from that computer onto my iMac. I will keep trying, and if I can, I will send you that drawing. Edited July 25, 2023 by PhilH 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2023 19 hours ago, John Besley said: Does anyone have drawings of a Bulleid Pacific whistle as I want to make one for one of my locos on Exhill - I model in 7/8ths scale... Many thanks in advance here you are, hope you can read this ok.You might be able to blow it up and print it out, if not I at least have it on the mac so there might be other options to explore which I, although as tech savvy as a sack of potatoes, might be able to explore 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) It should be noted that these drawings are the IP of the NRM and have been provided to members of The Bulleid Pacific Locomotive Association on the condition that they are not reproduced, shared or published... Edited July 25, 2023 by Graham_Muz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Graham_Muz said: Edited July 25, 2023 by PhilH I can’t seem to delete so have edited my post out as I can’t be bothered to get into a pointless conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted July 30, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2023 And here it is a model of a bulleid whistle in 7/8ths scale... Yes I know it should be slightly longer in the body but it does what I need On another point what whistle did the Q1's have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cofga Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 So I picked up a set of etched Golden Arrows from Fox Transfers and now am contemplating how to mount them on one of my spam cans. I am hesitant to slap on some glue but can’t figure a better way other than contact cement which might leave them removable. This begs the question as to how it was done on the original locos? I have viewed dozens of photos and can’t see any mounting brackets of any kind on the air smoother casings. Any ideas? Thanks—Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted August 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3, 2023 Hi Larry, I used Tony Wrights video https://youtu.be/5a5dwLbFo70 1.30 in. But yes contact adhesive. As for brackets looks likely as on photos but it is recent there is a shadow showing distance off the cladding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted August 3, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Cofga said: So I picked up a set of etched Golden Arrows from Fox Transfers and now am contemplating how to mount them on one of my spam cans. I am hesitant to slap on some glue but can’t figure a better way other than contact cement which might leave them removable. This begs the question as to how it was done on the original locos? I have viewed dozens of photos and can’t see any mounting brackets of any kind on the air smoother casings. Any ideas? Thanks—Larry Original locos that could be scheduled to haul the train had 3 fixing points cut into the cladding. You can just see them here on this picture of 34086. https://railphotoprints.uk/p978695097/e35d422d5 And in happier times - https://railphotoprints.uk/p978695097/e1dd402ee Edited August 3, 2023 by RFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cofga Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Great, you can definitely see the 3 brackets on the side for mounting the arrow. However I think the contact cement approach would be easier to remove at a later date if needed. I used that approach when mounting etched brass nameplates then discovered the flag on East Asiatic was backwards. Since I had used contact cement I was able to slip them off and remount in just a few minutes. Thanks to both of you—Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted August 4, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Cofga said: Great, you can definitely see the 3 brackets on the side for mounting the arrow. However I think the contact cement approach would be easier to remove at a later date if needed. I used that approach when mounting etched brass nameplates then discovered the flag on East Asiatic was backwards. Since I had used contact cement I was able to slip them off and remount in just a few minutes. Thanks to both of you—Larry Although I've not used it myself, I've seen Tacky Wax recommended for things like headboards, route discs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Check the correct positioning for your loco : the arrow was normally between the nameplate and the crest/shield but some locos had the brackets higher up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingleycustom Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 As far as I remember the arrow was above the nameplates on the West Country locos and between nameplate and shield for the Battle of Britain variety of Bulleid Light pacific ... ... btw that is my rendition of 34085 with Golden Arrow regalia on the Fox Transfers website. Glenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stentor Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Can anybody tell me where I can source a chimney for a rebuilt West Country in OO please? I’ve sourced a body but it came without a chimney and when I’ve searched the usual suspects on t’web I can’t find anything, even the wonderful Albert Goodall draws a blank. Any help much appreciated, thanks. //Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffordshire Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 52 minutes ago, Stentor said: Can anybody tell me where I can source a chimney for a rebuilt West Country in OO please? I’ve sourced a body but it came without a chimney and when I’ve searched the usual suspects on t’web I can’t find anything, even the wonderful Albert Goodall draws a blank. Any help much appreciated, thanks. //Simon PDK Models .... perhaps 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 16, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Staffordshire said: PDK Models .... perhaps Paul of PDK is always helpful and I am sure he will be able to help. My only reservation is that he has had some health issues. Kind regards, 30368 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 16, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2023 (edited) On 06/08/2023 at 11:44, mattingleycustom said: As far as I remember the arrow was above the nameplates on the West Country locos and between nameplate and shield for the Battle of Britain variety of Bulleid Light pacific ... ... btw that is my rendition of 34085 with Golden Arrow regalia on the Fox Transfers website. Glenn And the gap between the nameplate and badge was therefore increased on BB locos earmarked for GA duty compared with the usual spacing. Edited September 16, 2023 by Dunsignalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 16, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2023 My heritage Hornby "Spam Can" under construction. Comet Chassis and very very old Hornby body covered in 2 tho brass sheet sections. Kind regards, 30368 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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