Darlofan59 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Thanks Dutch_Master correct on the model typo! I've just set up a single track with one isolated section to try to get this to work. LNCV is set to 0. As it's a single short section altogether, I'm just powering from the Z21. That should be enough? I have only plastic rail joiners in the detection section on the same side as the feedback to the 63320. (The feedback to the Z21 is as per the diagram - back to the 'red' terminal. When you say swap do you mean I should have the feedback and connection and the isolated part all changed over or just one part of the wiring? Any idea how do I reset the 63320 back to factory setting? thanks for you help meant to say LNCV = 20. meant to say LNCV = 20. grr LNCV 0 =20 meant to say LNCV = 20. grr LNCV 0 =20 get a grip LNCV 20=0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausroco Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Hello all, I am new on this forum. After having spend a whole frustrating w/end to ge the Z21 (black) working on my test set-up I decided to ask some questions. May be someone could lead me in the right direction. Problem; - First I could connect and control the loco with the Notepad. - After connecting the TPG router to the network with a cable and running maintenance.exe it did not connect! Re-booted, etc did try everything, no luck. - When I did try again on sunday the wireless connection gave me an error on the z21 ... not in range! - Finally I noticed the name of the TPG router had changed! Eventually I managed to log onto the router wit a completely different IP address and reset the IP to 192.168.0.111 and change the name to z21 again - Now, when running maintenance.exe still same message that it can not connect! Ping 192.168.0.111 = OK - Notepad, connection confirmed but still when running wireless symbol red x Many thanks in advance Erwin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 What do you mean with "Notepad"? The Z21 app? Or the Win_OS word processing tool? In case of the latter, it's definitely not gonna work! Key thing is to start from scratch and not to skip steps or do stuff differently due to your local network setup/needs/wisdom. First, disconnect the whole Z21 setup from your local network. Then, perform a factory reset of both Z21 and the router coming with it. Connect both using the supplied cable, then switch them on. Now fire up the Z21 app on your mobile, after establishing contact with the Z21 WiFi router. It should connect, if not, check if you really are connected to the Z21 router, not something else! Report back on your experiences. What he said. DO NOT connect the Z21 router to your home network, the Z21 is designed to work on its own Wifi network. Connecting to your home network is for super advanced networking people. Regards, John P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete22 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Hi all, Is there any way that the Z21 can work with a Windows tablet ? to control locos & points etc .., the operating system in my tablet is Windows 10. Many thanks, Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Hi all, Is there any way that the Z21 can work with a Windows tablet ? to control locos & points etc .., the operating system in my tablet is Windows 10. Many thanks, Pete That probably "depends". If its the windows-mobile software (ie. tablet running same software as phone) then only option is browser control - which may work. If the tablet is running full Windows-10 (some of the most recent ones do this, as do many of the "convertible" laptops), then the control is the same as through any Windows-PC. There is no specific Windows App for Windows mobile devices. - Nigel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete22 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 That probably "depends". If its the windows-mobile software (ie. tablet running same software as phone) then only option is browser control - which may work. If the tablet is running full Windows-10 (some of the most recent ones do this, as do many of the "convertible" laptops), then the control is the same as through any Windows-PC. There is no specific Windows App for Windows mobile devices. - Nigel Hi, I think my tablet just uses standard Windows 10, so from what you say above - I guess it won't work. Thanks, Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darlofan59 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 meant to say LNCV = 20. grr LNCV 0 =20 get a grip LNCV 20=0 Just in case anyone is interested. I set the whole thing up using my iPad and everything worked first time, no issues with multiple sections. I was using an iPod initially and having tried again setting up the same way ,the iPod just won't work. I suspect it's because on the iPod, to move from the train control to view the track, the screen switches and maybe this causes the Uhlenbrock to think it's disconnected. On the iPad of course it's all one screen. Can't think of any other difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 The Roco WLAN controller (item 10813) is now showing available from week 49 (week starting 5/12). A full-page advertisement has appeared on the back page of the November Eisenbahn Kurier; this also says that the controller will be available from December. It also mentions a few features (including the power source: 3xAAA batteries, dry or rechargeable - but doesn't says if recharging can be in situ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete22 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) That probably "depends". If its the windows-mobile software (ie. tablet running same software as phone) then only option is browser control - which may work. If the tablet is running full Windows-10 (some of the most recent ones do this, as do many of the "convertible" laptops), then the control is the same as through any Windows-PC. There is no specific Windows App for Windows mobile devices. - Nigel Hi, sorry to bring this up again - but :- I am keen to buy a Z21 black, I will probably use it with PC software (RocRail) to run my layout fro m my windows computer - i.e. change points/signals on a touch screen monitor & maybe control loco's too. I would also buy 1 or 2 Roco MultiMaus hand held controllers or similar (probably wired) for normal loco running control. The Z21 web site - under FAQ's -says :- Can you connect the Z21 with a normal PC or a notebook ? Yes, that is possible. The connection is established via the LAN interface (network port) on your computer. What operating system is required on a PC, so that Z21 can be connected? To update the firmware and for the advanced settings on the Z21-Maintenance Tool (see download area), Windows is recommended. Z21-Maintenance can also be used with the support of WINE with MacOS and Linux. Alternatively, the firmware update can be carried out via the "Z21 updater" app on Android. If you want to use a PC controller for the automation of your model railway layout, you can use the following programs: TrainController (Windows) iTrain (Windows, MacOS, Linux) Rocrail (Windows, MacOS, Linux) ModellStw (Windows) I take this to mean that I could have my whole layout on large PC touchscreen monitor (showing RocRail), and use it to change points & signals. I also see information supporting this on page 13 of the User Manual (pdf). Can anyone see any issues with what I hope to do above ? Many thanks, Pete.. Edited October 25, 2016 by Pete22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete22 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Hi Thanks for quick reply. But - just thinking - If I go the PC / windows route, I guess I will miss out on all the nice graphics for setting up cv's, points , etc (not to mention the drivers cab), everything really ! , as all these are presumably contained in the Android App ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy1975 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hi has anyone used liffinski (LDT) turnout modules with the Z21??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Yes, I have. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy1975 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Hi all, Got my Z21 up and running today I have a few questions. Does the Z21 have a buzzing sound under load? My does it it's not shorting so I assume it is okay?? How much voltage drop is everyone getting with the supplied transformer? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 No buzzing on mine under any conditions. The transformer is a Switched Mode Power supply, 240V AC in, 18V DC @ 4A out. If this isn't providing 18V and it's buzzing then get it replaced. Regards, John P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy1975 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Hmmm mine is a 16 volt 2.8amp power supply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy1975 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 My buzz is in the Z21 itself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Sounds like its the wrong power supply, from memory the Z21 can do track voltages up to 18V, if it's only getting 16V then that's a problem Is it a Z21 Black or White? Regards, John P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy1975 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 It's the black version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy1975 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Hi Dutch! I don't have caps attached to the track! I'm using LDT block occupancy modules along with LDT and DIgikeijs turnout decoders It does do it if no track buss is connect to the output Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy1975 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Hi Dutch! I don't have caps attached to the track! I'm using LDT block occupancy modules along with LDT and DIgikeijs turnout decoders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy1975 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Dutch I'm assuming it there was a wiring issue eg short the z21s internal circuit breaker would trip?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ic125 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Dear all, sorry for bothering this issue for a "commercial request". Could anyone be so kind to give me a hint where I could order a Z21 (black) for a good price? With my company computer it seems I am a victim of google´s geo blocking features when I lookup from abroad. Thank You Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Kettlewell Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Try here: The Ipswich Model Rail Centre (or 'Scograil') http://www.scograil.co.uk/roco-10820--z21-digital-control-system-2365-p.asp On sale at £259.95 Cheers .. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichO Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Hi all Have been reading this topic with interest for some time ,but not sure if this has been covered before. I really want to use my own router with the Z21, so that I have full access to my network on the pc I am using for Traincontroller. My router is a BT Home Hub 3. I think my terminology is correct in saying it is on a different subnet to the TP-Link one. To access the Home Hub 3 you put 192.168.1.254 into the browser. (I don't want to replace the "1" with a zero and muck up my existing network) Any help on if this can be achieved and the correct order of doing things would be appreciated. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Dread Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 There's one (NEW) on E-Bay at the moment, £82.46 + £15.13 P & P. from Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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