Chuffer Davies Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Frank, I have some spare without the linkage gear as mentioned earlier and I'm sure I'm not going to be using them. They could be a straight replacement for the existing failure with linkage detached and then reattached to the replacement. I am sure your ones arer not all going to fail at the same time. If you want them that can be arranged as I often attend the Shipley Show. Sincerely, Phil Hi Phil, That is a kind offer, but as I previously mentioned we have plenty of spare units it’s just that at almost every exhibition we attend I end up crawling under the baseboards to fix or replace a unit. Sod’s law dictating that it is usually under a board where we have stored numerous stock boxes or stacking units. Thanks for the offer though, Frank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2018 The only snag you might have Tony is actually finding Tortoise point motors for sale. I had lots of trouble late last year and found that they were out of stock in many of the usual places and even those that seemed to have them didn't once I tried to order. I heard it was something to do with the importer from USA. A quick example (most options are out of stock): https://www.coastaldcc.co.uk/products/point-motors/ At the time I eventually got enough via the generosity of members on here, through second hand offers and one USA member sending me a box of 6 bought on my behalf from a shop over there. The situation may have changed so worth having a good look, phone or Google around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmay2002 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 The only snag you might have Tony is actually finding Tortoise point motors for sale. I had lots of trouble late last year and found that they were out of stock in many of the usual places and even those that seemed to have them didn't once I tried to order. I heard it was something to do with the importer from USA. Walthers have them on sale at the moment. https://www.walthers.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=tortoise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2018 Hello Tony I have seven unused new ones cluttering up my train set room. They are yours if you want them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headstock Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Hi Phil, That is a kind offer, but as I previously mentioned we have plenty of spare units it’s just that at almost every exhibition we attend I end up crawling under the baseboards to fix or replace a unit. Sod’s law dictating that it is usually under a board where we have stored numerous stock boxes or stacking units. Thanks for the offer though, Frank Evening Frank, I do like to stack things under the layout in close proximity to a plausible candidate for failure, having first jimmied out the spring of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2018 Hello Tony I have seven unused new ones cluttering up my train set room. They are yours if you want them. In a similar vein, I have three achieving the same aim, and with the same ultimate destination if required. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 In a similar vein, I have three achieving the same aim, and with the same ultimate destination if required. Mike. Thanks Mike (and Clive), Please let me know how much you want for them (and Clive - not how much anyone wants for Clive!). Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2018 Hi Tony A cup of coffee and a biscuit next time I visit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I am only young but I've used Cobalt analog for Brighton Junction, the layouts DCC, however I've kept to the conventional method of wiring point motors. All Cobalt's for the scenic section and a mixture of Peco surface mount, standard Peco point motors and Cobalt's for the fiddle yard. As I said I am still rather young compared to most in the hobby but I have never had a problem with the Cobalts, which I think are practically the same as Tortoises, (did i spell that right?). The only fault would be myself wiring them up. You may have a heart attack when you see my layout Tony when you stay in September, My wiring is not exactly, how can I say, normal. But the trains work so....... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2018 I am only young but I've used Cobalt analog for Brighton Junction, the layouts DCC, however I've kept to the conventional method of wiring point motors. All Cobalt's for the scenic section and a mixture of Peco surface mount, standard Peco point motors and Cobalt's for the fiddle yard. As I said I am still rather young compared to most in the hobby but I have never had a problem with the Cobalts, which I think are practically the same as Tortoises, (did i spell that right?). The only fault would be myself wiring them up. You may have a heart attack when you see my layout Tony when you stay in September, My wiring is not exactly, how can I say, normal. But the trains work so....... I've held back from the conversation in case anyone thinks I'm flying a flag for DCC Concepts - which I'm not, except as a customer - but Jesse makes a good point. The new Cobalts (the ones with iP in the name) are far better than the old ones and have several advantages over Tortoises in my opinion - most notably their smaller physical size and the lack of soldering needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2018 I've held back from the conversation in case anyone thinks I'm flying a flag for DCC Concepts - which I'm not, except as a customer - but Jesse makes a good point. The new Cobalts (the ones with iP in the name) are far better than the old ones and have several advantages over Tortoises in my opinion - most notably their smaller physical size and the lack of soldering needed.I am also a big fan of Cobalt iP’s, but we are talking about Tony here ;-) I get the impression that good old-fashioned soldering will be seen as a plus for the Tortoise... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 I am also a big fan of Cobalt iP’s, but we are talking about Tony here ;-) I get the impression that good old-fashioned soldering will be seen as a plus for the Tortoise... A plus indeed! I can't get on with new-fangled things..................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Hi Tony A cup of coffee and a biscuit next time I visit. Good afternoon Clive, Many thanks. Several cups of coffee and many (chocolate?) biscuits will be provided. Edited June 5, 2018 by Tony Wright 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marlin Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I've held back from the conversation in case anyone thinks I'm flying a flag for DCC Concepts - which I'm not, except as a customer - but Jesse makes a good point. The new Cobalts (the ones with iP in the name) are far better than the old ones and have several advantages over Tortoises in my opinion - most notably their smaller physical size and the lack of soldering needed. Thanks for posting this. I'd been wondering about point motors - never having owned a layout that used any - and, after looking at the Cobalts, they appear to be perfect for my needs. A website to stick in the 'Girtby Sea Shopping List' folder, I think. Cheers! Gavin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marlin Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 A plus indeed! I can't get on with new-fangled things..................... Given that new technology is new-fangled, and previous ways of working are, presumably, old-fangled, does that mean that current technology is simply fangled? "Gavin's layout uses best fangled practice to achieve reliable operation..." 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2018 Given that new technology is new-fangled, and previous ways of working are, presumably, old-fangled, does that mean that current technology is simply fangled? "Gavin's layout uses best fangled practice to achieve reliable operation..." How about contemporary-fangled? A bit of a mouthful though. My own current practice is a mix of new, old and contemporary... so pan-fangled? The word fangled is apparently derived from the now obsolete verb to fang, which meant ‘to grasp. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Isn't it an obsolete word for dress (as in attire)? Newfangled was apparently a derogatory term for those that dressed like fops and embraced whatever new fashion was in vogue. I'm pretty sure it's Shakespearean or from that era. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Isn't it an obsolete word for dress (as in attire)? Newfangled was apparently a derogatory term for those that dressed like fops and embraced whatever new fashion was in vogue. I'm pretty sure it's Shakespearean or from that era. Jason Thanks Jason, I'll never be newfangled (sic) then? I hope not! Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grob1234 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Hello folks, Just a little travel vlog of my recent trip to Bluebell Railway. https://youtu.be/oysAH4OJkhI 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Several things have been on my 'to do' list for some time. At last, some have been done! Though shorter than it should be, the 'Leicester' on the top bit of Little Bytham is the principal train. It has a catering car and travels the longest distance (extended to Birmingham at times). It's been anonymous too long, and I've finally fitted a set of Ian Wilson's Pacific Models destination boards to the carriages. These are excellent and well worth the (little) effort in cutting them out, blackening the edges and fixing them in place (with little dabs of PVA). Ivatt 'Flying Pigs' were synonymous with the M&GNR from their construction, and here's one heading an express to the Norfolk coast from the East Midlands. It has an interesting history......... From what I've been told, it was started (scratch-building) some years ago by a chap who subsequently died. It was willed to a friend of his, who did some more work on it, then he died. The next friend it was willed to was involved in a motor accident (after he'd done some more to it), resulting in disability. He then gave it to one of my friends, who asked me to complete it. He told the story so far, and, since I'm not superstitious, I completed it by finishing off the body and tender, and building a chassis for both. I then painted and numbered/lettered the lot. It would seem that one is safe (according to superstition) as long as one owns it, but doesn't do any work on it, or works on it, but doesn't own it. All the work (apart from weathering) was completed over two years ago and I haven't been zapped yet. I weathered it on Monday - another job done! A good friend popped round last week for a visit, and brought some tiny (but very-powerful) magnets with him. Any uncoupling on LB had been done previously by using (for a very short time!) tension-locks and latterly by using Sprat & Winkle-fitted wagons, uncoupling them by using a stick pressing down on the couplings. All a bit 'hand of God'. These weeny magnets are the answer. They're only just wider than a sleeper and are superglued to the top of one at strategic places. A lick of paint disguises them very well, and Bob's your uncle. Paul Marshall Potter's lovely little shunter marks the position of two of them. Other items mark the position of the others. They work perfectly. Thanks Michael. My friend looks at this thread, so might indicate from where they can be sourced. Another task completed! 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdh1950 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Good afternoon Tony, The magnets were obtained from Magnet Expert Ltd (www.first4magnets.com). They are 10 x 5 x 1mm thick N42 Neodymium Magnets with a pull of 0.6kg (North) - reference no. F1051NA-20. They cost £6.64 for 20 including 1st Class P&P. They are self-adhesive on one side but, as we found, the pull is stronger than the adhesive! I am pleased that you are happy with them. Michael Edited June 5, 2018 by mdh1950 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lecorbusier Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 A good friend popped round last week for a visit, and brought some tiny (but very-powerful) magnets with him. Any uncoupling on LB had been done previously by using (for a very short time!) tension-locks and latterly by using Sprat & Winkle-fitted wagons, uncoupling them by using a stick pressing down on the couplings. All a bit 'hand of God'. These weeny magnets are the answer. They're only just wider than a sleeper and are superglued to the top of one at strategic places. A lick of paint disguises them very well, and Bob's your uncle. Paul Marshall Potter's lovely little shunter marks the position of two of them. Other items mark the position of the others. They work perfectly. Thanks Michael. My friend looks at this thread, so might indicate from where they can be sourced. Another task completed! Do you know if the magnets would be strong enough to activate the decoupling if set at ballast level between the sleepers with a light dusting of ballast sprinkled on top? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2018 Good afternoon Tony, The magnets were obtained from Magnet Expert Ltd (www.first4magnets.com). They are 10 x 5 x 1mm thick N42 Neodymium Magnets with a pull of 0.6kg (North) - reference no. F1051NA-20. They cost £6.64 for 20 including 1st Class P&P. They are self-adhesive on one side but, as we found, the pull is stronger than the adhesive! I am pleased that you are happy with them. Michael I am not familiar with the use of magnets, so may I ask please, do these attract or repel? I'd like to use magnets that repel if such things are avilable. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 5, 2018 The magnets were obtained from Magnet Expert Ltd (www.first4magnets.com). They are 10 x 5 x 1mm thick N42 Neodymium Magnets with a pull of 0.6kg (North) - reference no. F1051NA-20. They cost £6.64 for 20 including 1st Class P&P. They are self-adhesive on one side but, as we found, the pull is stronger than the adhesive! Similar items also available here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20pcs-Rare-Earth-Strong-Magnets-10x5x1mm-N42-NdFeB-Neodymium-DIY-Model-Craft/173135561819?epid=23013729013&hash=item284faf045b:g:d64AAOSwKIdaaipU - not self-adhesive, nor any promise of strength; however a little under two quid must be worth a punt. Delivery would probably take a week or two since they're in China (though not always - I've had items sent from within the UK despite being advertised as coming from China). I've yet to have a non-delivery either. HTH Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted June 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2018 I am not familiar with the use of magnets, so may I ask please, do these attract or repel? I'd like to use magnets that repel if such things are avilable. Phil I would expect them to only repel if the couplings were also magnetic and the correct orientation of the poles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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