Dapol Class 121 and 122 in OO gauge

[keefer]

'rolling stock recognition 3: DMUs' (marsden/ ian allan, 1st. ed. 1981) has a pic on p.68 of blue/grey DTS W56286 leading the white/blue DMBS

 

a pic on p.70 has blue/grey DMBS W55022 with a white/blue cl.117 TCL and DMS

 

if you want to go overboard, there was a pic in the morrison DMU book of 4 cl.121 DMBS with a cl.117 TCL in the middle - all in NSE!

(can't find the book to check the details)

[muddys-blues]

Any target date for these yet Dave ?

[robf]

The first post states " we have a slot in production for the 3^rd quarter of 2013" (July / August / September).

 

Has this been achieved as things have gone very quite!

[BR(S)]

The first post states " we have a slot in production for the 3^rd quarter of 2013" (July / August / September).

 

Has this been achieved as things have gone very quite!

 

Now that DapolDave is now DJM Dave, we may not get an answer soon.

[Gwiwer]

"Expected during 2013" is the average of what the major retailers are suggesting.  Not very definite but it ties in with a production slot about now.

[BR(S)]

While we're waiting, a picture for people who like livery embellishments:

 

Class 121: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47500cdb/7392928508/

Edited September 26, 2013 by BR(S)

[Taigatrommel]

While we're waiting, a couple of pictures for people who like livery embellishments:

 

Class 121: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47500cdb/7392928508/

 

Class 122: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47500cdb/7657787112/

The "122" is a 116.  Very similar front end, but of course the driving car only has one cab!

[BR(S)]

The "122" is a 116.  Very similar front end, but of course the driving car only has one cab!

 

Whoops, just looked at the small headcode box and assumed   Original post edited.

[BR(S)]

Good close-up picture of 55022 in original NSE: http://www.trackbasher-photos.co.uk/1988/i-Xf7vVkD

[Fairburn]

Good close-up picture of 55022 in original NSE: http://www.trackbasher-photos.co.uk/1988/i-Xf7vVkD

Just had a panic attack that 'Royal Scots Grey' had been subjected to a makeover.

[BR(S)]

Interesting consist:

 

Class 121 and 117 vehicles at Paddington by 74009, on Flickr

 

 

[Xerces Fobe2]

Interesting consist:

 

Class 121 and 117 vehicles at Paddington by 74009, on Flickr

Quite a common occurance in the late 80's/ early 90's

[NickL2008]

Before the introduction of the 165s, you would commonly see a mixture of the 101s/117s/121s in mixed formations because of failures etc, cant remember where I saw it but there's a picture of a Class 101 DMS and 117 DMBS together!

 

NL

[Gwiwer]

Agreed.  Towards the end almost anything which was fit for service would be coupled and used.  Two bubblecars flanking a trailer was unusual but by no means unheard of and that goes for b/g days as well.  One bubblecar replacing a "normal" class 117 driving vehicle was almost an hourly occurrence on the Thames Valley with one or two sets semi-permanently so formed at times.

 

The 2-car class 104 sets which migrated south and gained NSE livery were however kept as pairs and not mixed with other stock though when shortages arose they would be taken off their rostered Gospel Oak - Barking duties and used to replace a 3-car 117 (often on a Slough stopper as that kept them near London and with familiar crews) while a bubblecar (which was woefully inadequate alone as cover for a 3-car roster) was sent to cover the Barking duty or - as often as not - it was cancelled altogether.

[sparks]

While we're waiting, a picture for people who like livery embellishments:

 

Class 121: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47500cdb/7392928508/

 

Ah, Tren y Cwm. That takes me back to my childhood in the valleys! I've always thought that the Valley Lines 143s would have looked good with the red speed whisker and ddraig goch.

[southernelectric]

Glad they've clarified the NSE liveries.  I've changed to the original one as it will definitely fit into my era. 

 

There don't seem to be that many pictures of 121s in the original NSE.  Here's two I've found, both 55022 that Dapol/Hatton's will be doing:

 

http://martianphotography.smugmug.com/RecentImages/1980s-New-Scans/27070783_Z2pBhR#!i=2284858538&k=qs8dgvP

 

BR Class 121 "Bubble Car" W55022, in NSE colours, near Acton on 16th. May 1988. by Crewcastrian, on Flickr

 

Can someone clarify...the two different NSE liveries...I don't recall seeing any EMUs in the 'revised' livery. Is that the case? I only recall the original 'upswept' one on EMUs. So when did the revised NSE livery first appear? And was it only applied to diesel locos and DMUs?

[Taigatrommel]

On EMUs the revision was to add a radius to the upsweep and change the blue to a darker shade.  There's a good illustration on this page: http://www.networksoutheast.net/emu-ac.html

  Just over halfway down, or ctrl+f "2 versions of Network lines."

[BR(S)]

Network SouthEast as first applied consisted of the upswept stripes livery with a light blue.  From late 1987, the blue was made darker as the light blue looked washed out; locos were given the revised livery which eliminated the upswept stripes.  Most DMUs and EMUs retained the upswept stripe livery (but changed from light blue to dark blue), originally being applied with a sharp angle and then changed to a curve.  The 121s received the revised livery without upswept stripes and I can't think of any other DMU that did.

 

Comparsion here with upswept stripes and revised:

 

121xxx Reading 91 by jonf45, on Flickr

 

Curved upsweep:

 

Network SouthEast lives! by Elsie esq., on Flickr

 

Angular upsweep:

 

Two EMU Liveries at Cannon Street (1) - 23 August 1986 by John Oram, on Flickr

 

For one final variation, some locos received the revised style livery but initially retained the light blue, one being 50027 "Lion":

 

50027 "Lion" by GB56134, on Flickr

Edited October 19, 2013 by BR(S)

[southernelectric]

Thanks for the replies everyone...explains things perfectly!

[robf]

Still no news I guess?

 

I wonder if this will ever arrive????

[Kevin Aldridge]

Have just received Email from Dapol, 121/122 Bubble cars are "some way off" and will not now be released until sometime in 2014

Edited November 25, 2013 by Kevin Aldridge

[Xerces Fobe2]

Have just received Email from Dapol, 121/122 Bubble cars are "some way off" and will not now be released until sometime in 2014

Not a big surprise given the recent changes both in staff and business strategy at Dapol.

 

XF

[darren01]

HO Poo!, A bit more of a wait then.

[johnpeter3]

Hattons have updated their website to say that these are not expected until April 2015.  More time to save up!

[Bert Cheese]

It would have been a nice bous item if produced as announced, but I'm not that bothered about it and so have cancelled my pre-order today.

 

I'm sure there will still be some spare available on release if I still want one, without the bother of just over a ton randomly disappearing from my bank account for something I may have forgotten I'd ordered 3 or 4 years previously...

Edited August 9, 2014 by Bert Cheese