RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted August 30, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2014 Admission of guilt should bring a lighter sentence.... ? I just cannot pretend remorse, though. Moving swiftly on... The last clean pic of my one... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I will do a full write up in the next few days, but here's a few pics ahead of a trip up the East Coast main line tomorrow that may be of interest. The first one shows the model with the bottom plate off. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 maybe this is how it was .... sort of Moving swiftly on... 2001_rh.jpg The last clean pic of my one... maybe this is something like everyday appearance? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I can just imagine that P2 in BR mixed traffic lined black or even unlined black...........Far more respectable than the gaudy bright green. As to weathering, it was only in original condition for three years and was probably kept clean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Cleaner than BR unlined black and mixed traffic engines anyway.... the photo above suggests a fair degree of grime. On the Edinburgh-Dundee line plenty of opportunities to get grubby in a couple of return trips, Most photos of the P2 are works or publicity or King's Cross where is clean, or clean-ish. Slightly understated weathering is indeed an art, as in the Schools pic I did for your friend, even if digital editing. I won't hesitate to add water and lubrication staining to mine when I receive it, and topside grime, and grime in the nooks and crannies... but I agree pristine or near pristine can look lovely too. Can't wait for toboldlygo's version. (and haven't received mine yet (sob) ) Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I do commit heinous crimes in photo editing things like grime, but in my defence your Honour it is my hobby. Thus the legend is born: (Rob) M.C. Grime - Grime Artist. The Nim. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 My HornbyP2 is currently travelling at over 100mph at the head of a service out of Kings Cross...although as I type this we've had a signal check and are slowing for Stevenage! My P2 must be the one of the first Hornby P2s to have visited Kings Cross, no? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hamblin Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Personally I think LNER garter blue or even the 1950s BR blue would look quite nice on it, but alas, thanks to the rebuilding, we will never know. Regards, Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Well, sure the P2SLC may want to repaint theirs a couple of times when she's done. Midland red anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Dan Hamblin - it's thanks to Gresley actually. If there was any doubt as to the ruthlessness of locomotive engineers and the romanticism of enthusiasts, it is the conveniently forgot fact that Gresley rebuilt 2001 and 2002 to match the four streamlined P2s. The A2/2 rebuilding is therefore irrelevant in the case of 2001: LNER apple green is the only historic livery that can be applied to it in this form, or 2007 when built to 2001s aesthetics. As streamlined locomotives, the P2s also carried variations on LNER wartime black including some "warning panels" in white on a few class members front casing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I don't think I've ever seen a picture of them in black, do you have a link or reference Simon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Cat among pigeons time, This is what I'm planning to do with my Railroad version when I get it!... I won't say watch this space because it probably won't even get going until next year, and take a long while from then, but I've made a start by acquiring a spare V2 shell and plan to use it's front end as well as a set of Bachmann V2 motion and parts. Peter 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 None I can put up at present however Michael Bonavias books on the LNER have, I think, a few pictures. There are definitely shots in the relevant Yeadons and RCTS. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Just acquired the Yeadon volume. What do you want to know ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Cat among pigeons time, This is what I'm planning to do with my Railroad version when I get it!... P2 V2.jpg I won't say watch this space because it probably won't even get going until next year, and take a long while from then, but I've made a start by acquiring a spare V2 shell and plan to use it's front end as well as a set of Bachmann V2 motion and parts. Peter Look forward to seeing the end product when complete. In the real world what would have been the future for the P2 with-out Mr Thompson`s part in the P2 story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Was just intrigued to see what the P2 looked like in all-over black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 The slender drawbar lends itself to this little trick, with careful use of long nosed pliers this is infinitely adjustable. N 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee74clarke Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 My HornbyP2 is currently travelling at over 100mph at the head of a service out of Kings Cross...although as I type this we've had a signal check and are slowing for Stevenage! My P2 must be the one of the first Hornby P2s to have visited Kings Cross, no? Simon Good to meet you today at Tony's. If you post some photo's of your P2 running, would you be kind enough to whack a piccie of my Garratt on as well? Many Thanks Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sway1961 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 My first post and my first proposed 4mm purchase in Australia once they become available. Looking at the two images though the proportions of the firebox are hugely disappointing, the model firebox is way to long and far too close to the rear edge of the 4th driver. Is this correct ? Did these engines receive different sized fireboxes during their working life's ? Cheers, Steven Sydney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Looks ok to me http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/352/4/a/4ad208d5087f8f9d45e3a1b95ebf173a-d56g85m.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Looks fine to me and I believe it has been posted already that it matches with scale drawings. Rhys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 31, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) The comments about the difference (or lack of) between Railroad and "Full" range new Hornby locos is because up until now the Railroad range was made up mainly of "old" locos from Triang/Hornby, Airfix and Lima, many of which have been superceded by locos using new tooling. The latest releases are all new both for Railroad and Full range and I don't see how you could make them much more "different" than they are. Keith EDIT Maybe 5 pole motors and all wheel pickup on Main range and 3 pole and simpler pick up arrangements on Railroad in addition to the decoration level? Edited August 31, 2014 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 43300 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Just idle curiosity here, but have they made the tooling so that they can do the later locos (and the early ones as modified) with the streamlined A4-style front ends? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 My first post and my first proposed 4mm purchase in Australia once they become available. Looking at the two images though the proportions of the firebox are hugely disappointing, the model firebox is way to long and far too close to the rear edge of the 4th driver. Is this correct ? Did these engines receive different sized fireboxes during their working life's ? Cheers, Steven Sydney. It may be just a trick of perspective, the on-shed photo of 2001 is at a slightly oblique angle to the photographer; you can see inside the l/h smoke deflector and the front of the cylinder casing, buffer beam, etc is also visible. If the model were rotated to a similar angle, the apparent proportional differences would probably disappear. As I look at the two pics, I'm more and more impressed at what Hornby have achieved! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Just idle curiosity here, but have they made the tooling so that they can do the later locos (and the early ones as modified) with the streamlined A4-style front ends? Tony Wrights review noted a front slope on the chassis block, so maybe it has been developed with an eye to other members of the class at some point in the future. I personally am waiting for my firemans breakfast with TTS version.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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