lofty1966 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I think you need to 'enlarge' your collection Mr Karhedron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I think you need to 'enlarge' your collection Mr Karhedron. The last time I did that we needed an extra bedroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandc_au Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I don't think he meant "THAT" collection! Khris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 57 foot Colletts - Very nice! Two questions :- 1. Which GWR livery? (several possibilities here) 2. where do I find £240 for the set? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP99 Posted May 16, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2015 57 foot Colletts - Very nice! Two questions :- 1. Which GWR livery? (several possibilities here) 2. where do I find £240 for the set? When you find the answer to question 2, please let me know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 So as Hornby are working backwards from Hawksworth to Collett, what comes next? Some Deans with real mouldings would be very nice, including some convertibles that could be converted to broad gauge. Going back even further would be even better, but maybe wishing for too much! Forget the Toplights, as they're boring in comparison!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 When you find the answer to question 2, please let me know! I suspect that's 'if' rather than 'when'....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 No one has to buy the lot. One would be lucky to find a whole train of 57' bow-enders at any period in railway history. The GW was known for its untidy train consists.....Only collectors, it seems, want tidy non prototypical trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 No one has to buy the lot. One would be lucky to find a whole train of 57' bow-enders at any period in railway history. The GW was known for its untidy train consists.....Only collectors, it seems, want tidy non prototypical trains. I totally agree. When researching the Great Western In the 1930's books, the authors found just ONE train out of the many hundreds of images that contained only 57ft stock. A Hall, siphon G, then five 57ft Collett's. This was so unusual that the image was used in the books. Out of my personal collection of 1930's GWR trains I have no images at all containing just 1925 stock. Hornby are producing just three types. There were also three compartment brakes, brake compos, full brakes etc that do appear with the numerous all thirds seen so frequently. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted May 17, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2015 I totally agree. When researching the Great Western In the 1930's books, the authors found just ONE train out of the many hundreds of images that contained only 57ft stock. A Hall, siphon G, then five 57ft Collett's. This was so unusual that the image was used in the books. Out of my personal collection of 1930's GWR trains I have no images at all containing just 1925 stock. Hornby are producing just three types. There were also three compartment brakes, brake compos, full brakes etc that do appear with the numerous all thirds seen so frequently. Mike Wiltshire Small or large tendered Hall? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Small or large tendered Hall? yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwinian Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Wow, the pre-production smaple looks quite good. Methinks a few of these might make it into the valleys in 1929 on a rugby match special (wioth the odd clerestory thrown in for good measure). Especially if they do the fully panelled out livery (please Mr Hornby). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted May 17, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2015 57 foot Colletts - Very nice! Two questions :- 1. Which GWR livery? (several possibilities here) 2. where do I find £240 for the set? 1a. Which BR livery? (some possibilities here also) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Small or large tendered Hall? Large tender Hall, roundel on the tender, laterer batch with fireiron tunnel 5921 onwards, followed by outside framed Siphon G, D95 R/H, E127 L/H, E127 R/H. C54, D95 L/H. The entire train can be made from Hornby next year. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted May 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2015 I tried to buy a C54 many years ago but could not raise the money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Hi Can anyone kindly confirm the bogie's for the K38 are they the 9' pressed steel type??. Built with 7ft bogies as per the other Colletts in the series. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I am glad that Hornby is doing these coaches........They'll have good bogies. This is an area where Bachmann has let itself and modellers down after years of producing very good ex-Mainline bogies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 One word... beautiful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 The second coach is apparently a Churchward GWR "Nondescript*" Saloon Carriage Definition - *lacking distinctive or interesting features or characteristics Not sure about that...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 One word... beautiful Both available as Kit / sides if you want a go yourself. Note the top coach, a C32, is actually steel sided and the paneling is painted on. Personally I am a total coward and went for simple livery. C32 available from Worsley works and can be fitted to a shortend Bachmann Collett with glue assembly bogies from David Geen. Anorak moment - unlikely the coach would have been fitted with the short end steps to the bogie when painted in this livery in GW days. Mike Wiltshire Edit - I believe 'Nonedescript' was a Great Western coaching term for no class. It was a private hire vehicle and was not classified as either first or third class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I am intrigued by the photos of the real coaches and presume they on the Severn Valley Ryl.? I ask because I remember the nondescript in GWR 1912-22 full panelled maroon but I wasn't aware of the toplight. They look absolutely superb and show how far preservation has come over the years when vehicles can be turned out like this. I think Hornby would find it worthwhile testing the market with one of their new Collett's in 1923-28 livery as a special edition. Even priced at something like £75.00, this is a fraction of the price we coach builders have to charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 fv`132wfv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I am intrigued by the photos of the real coaches and presume they on the Severn Valley Ryl.? I ask because I remember the nondescript in GWR 1912-22 full panelled maroon but I wasn't aware of the toplight. They look absolutely superb and show how far preservation has come over the years when vehicles can be turned out like this. You're right coachmann, 3930 and 9055 reside on the Severn Valley Railway and are owned by the GW(SVR) Association. Correct again on 9055, it was originally returned to traffic in 1986 in lined crimson lake livery with hand painted garter crests. There is also a GWR Toplight Full Third 2426 which resides at Hampton Loade and is currently used as staff accommodation. Hopefully it won't be long before 2426 does receive the full overhaul it deserves... These are my favourite carriages on the SVR and their interiors are just as majestic. Whenever I look at 3930 and 9055, I do keep wishing that someday soon the Toplights will be announced by someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Hatter Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I do wish 9055 was on a train going to Minehead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Hatter Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 There is a Trust set up on the WSR to restore GWR Top Light Coaches they have several on the line. http://www.wssrt.co.uk/ The trust was set up to run the steam trains along the coast during the summer before the WSR gave up the idea of running the commuter trains into Taunton Station, and decided to run the steam trains them selves. There are 10 toplight and is nearly 50% of all survives are on the WSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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