darrel Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I got one DVD "preserved locos of the southern railway." I received a separate letter that says free DVD with your first four deliveries. Every 4 weeks thereafter you will receive a free N gauge locomotive up to and including your 8th delivery. You will receive a free folder every 16 issues.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Unless you're really enthusiastic about watching 75 minutes of locos chuffing past with pretty random collections of rolling stock you're not missing much. Interesting for a few minutes but it palls. Useful as a sort-of reference for goods consists, but even then they aren't authentic. I'd have loved some film of the same classes in the wild, so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 My apologies Smiffy for once again replicating your excellent photographs in another post, but to compare the GBL tender with the Railroad Scotsman tender of the same type (this is the latest Railroad 4472 tender and not the older tender drive one). Bear in mind the Railroad tender is based on, and effectively a simplified version of, the super detail tender in Hornby's range. Do we think the GBL one is similar in this respect? I think it's a very clever simplified copy personally. What do we reckon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 In Terms of the decoration it's better than the Hornby one. Now without wanting to open a huge can of worms, if a model as cheap as this can have a finish so much better than the much more expensive Hornby railroad one, why can Hornby not do a better job for a couple of pounds more. Other than that it looks very much like a copy with minor differences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 12, 2014 After my complaining about there being none of this partwork available locally the local Asda's now has stacks of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 After my complaining about there being none of this partwork available locally the local Asda's now has stacks of them. An embarrassment of riches? Cup runneth over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The great thing about these models as TheWeatheringMan and others have pointed out is their ability to really help others have a proper crack at the hobby, without having to risk top dollar models. Break a model? Not a problem, it's only £10. This could prove to be an excellent case of 'right place, right time' for the hobby, encouraging others to dip their toes in before diving off the deep end with a full layout and stock collection. It's quite ironic, as the day before the A4 issue was announced as coming back out, I was looking at bidding on a Hornby A4 to turn into 10,000. And as to those that don't want to hear about more planned ideas, I won't mention the LMS 4-6-4 streamliner, LMS princess with deflectors and double chimney, or the.....but I digress! Fancy seeing the Bulleid 2-8-2 breaking the surface here! Well I never...... 'If you build it, they will come' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 In that earlier top-view picture of the model it looks as if the coning of the boiler may be a little wayward - a little bit like the neck of a stubby milk bottle, with the narrow end of the flare illogically placed mid-way between two boiler bands, under the front of the banjo. That might be a nuisance! On the other hand, the wide end of the flare seems to be a little way ahead of the firebox throat, so the boiler shape might have potential for a Thompson Great Northern conversion or true diag 107boiler, with suitable change of one boiler band position and possibly some new firebox plugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I like the black lining of the tender on the GBL model - very reminiscent of the old Trix Flying Scotsman model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 somewhat Trix-esque black-only on the tender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Apparently, even if you miss the partworks, the models can still be bought online for a slightly inflated price..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The publisher's website has them at €20 a pop, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The publisher claims cover price plus 50p http://www.greatbritishlocomotive.co.uk/ (scroll right to the bottom) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Interesting. From their shop they're marked at €20... http://www.amercom-hobby.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 13, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13, 2014 This afternoon at 15:00 Smiffs in Brum had both part 1 (plenty back in stock since last week) and also plenty of part 2. There were displays in at least 3 different locations in the shop so if you want one (or two or three....) look around. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hill Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Can I just check, did other subscribers get one or two DVDs! I only got one for the SR and was expecting two. Will give their customer help line tomorrow if I'm missing one I got the LMS and Southern ones along with the first 3 issues. Sadly I can't display mine well without taking them out the packaging they were sent in. I thought the case was like those on the Corgi Rail Legends but I suspect that may have put the price up. Mine must have been slightly damaged in transit as one of the handrails on my 6220 is split, there's a rattle in my 4472 but not sure whats come off yet and Mallard seems to have had a wheel come off.But still a great set of models and the magazines and Southern DVD are good as well but not watched the LMS one yet. Can't wait to see some peoples What ifs and ficitious livieries (BR Blue Streamlined Coronations and BR Lined Black and Blue West Countries would be good). But one question. How many issues are there? You get a binder every 16 issues so its at least 32 and the list posted a few pages back only goes as far as 20. Space for me could become an issue but sure I'll work around that. Edited March 13, 2014 by Dan Hill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Someone ask for some BR Princess Coronations? BR Blue BR Green BR Red BR Black 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted March 14, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2014 I received just the Southern DVD with Issues 2 and 3, The Coronation had a small glue run fron the left hand handrail at the smokebox end, and the loco was derailed. The Scotsman right hand Walschaert gear was not glued to the body and the tender was derailed, also the previously mentioned name plate is not good. All minor and fixable but annoying I predict a run on Scotsman plates, it will be interesting to see if they mold or print the GWR Number plates. It's strange that after the three premier Known loco classes of LMS and LNER, thet they the choose the 28XX as the next Loco for GWR and not the King which is not on the known list of production so Far, even the Castle is well down the list. The Q Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I received just the Southern DVD with Issues 2 and 3, The Coronation had a small glue run fron the left hand handrail at the smokebox end, and the loco was derailed. The Scotsman right hand Walschaert gear was not glued to the body and the tender was derailed, also the previously mentioned name plate is not good. All minor and fixable but annoying I predict a run on Scotsman plates, it will be interesting to see if they mold or print the GWR Number plates. It's strange that after the three premier Known loco classes of LMS and LNER, thet they the choose the 28XX as the next Loco for GWR and not the King which is not on the known list of production so Far, even the Castle is well down the list. The Q Glue runs are not uncommon - I've rejected a few for this. Misregistration of nameplates and the gold lining around the 'Coronation' firebox is also frequent (the lining appears to be made up of two separate transfers). We are lucky to get any GWR model fourth. Historically they have been well down the list. (It took Trix, Dublo and Tri-ang over ten years to produce one - not including the war period and an N2 in GWR livery doesn't count.) I trust the '28xx', 'City', '45xx'* and 'Castle' will be worth waiting for. *Please copy the Bachmann version and not the Lima one! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted March 14, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2014 and the loco was derailed. The Scotsman right hand Walschaert gear was not glued to the body and the tender was derailed, From what I could see, the wheels are too narrow for the track a lot of the time, certainly has trouble sitting on 00 track Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 *Please copy the Bachmann version and not the Lima one! Am I the only one who finds this whole practice tantamount to piracy? CHRIS LEIGH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 14, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2014 Am I the only one who finds this whole practice tantamount to piracy? CHRIS LEIGH It certainly gives that impression. However as folk have pointed out over the years designs etc are sometimes not very 'safe' if left in the hands of overseas factories and there is little companies can do to stop it unless it is an exact copy (and even then it's difficult to prove anything). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave47549 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) . Edited October 2, 2021 by Dave47549 Removed pointless guff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Hi Chris, Whilst I agree totally with tour sentiment the regrettable aspect is that it cannot be stopped, in as far as what's happening here, as its in no way illegal. As I'm sure you will agree this type of thing has caused some products to be withdrawn from the market in the past - I'm thinking here of things like an etched footbridge kit that was pirated as I know you will recall - such a great shame. Best Wishes Yes, it highlights the difference between 'illegal' and 'immoral' in this instance. As far as the piracy by a certain firm that went on in the 1980s, I would have said that WAS illegal in that it directly infringed copyright of artwork. However, it would have needed to be tested in a court of law and the only winners in those scenarios are the lawyers. I doubt that the RTR manufacturers would consider it worthwhile pursuing the matter, either, particularly as the models in question are unpowered. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 ....nasty bits of rubbish that come close to bringing Railway Modelling into disrepute. How's that different from how the hobby is (still) perceived generally? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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