Marcus 37 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Hi Jim Good to see you back mate. Sorry cant be of any help with the decoder, that's way beyond me at the moment. Would love to see some pictures of your class 70 though. See you soon Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 21, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2014 Jim I haven't used the ESU turnout decoders but when I have had problems programme g the Digitrax ones I will often do a factory default reset and start again. Ian i forgot to say i even tried it with a new decoder straight out of the box to eliminate an output problem but still nothing, it got the 12V pulse when i pushed the button so im wondering if its a motor issue, i wired a load up in a batch but if i wired the first up wrong then the rest may be the same, they look like they are right though marcus, its a bit rough and ready as it was done before the real thing was unveiled but here is the 70, needs the black changing below the windows and the fan boxes that mick newbryford did for me adding to the sides 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Nice job there mate. I can believe that they aren't the easiest thing in the world to paint with all those grills. Must admit I do like the Colas Livery and it does seem to suit the 70's quite well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted April 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2014 I am quite happy painting locos but in N Gauge that livery is just a bit to much for me on a 70 so hoping Farish will do one soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 24, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2014 Got to the bottom of the problem with the accessory decoder, some silly article who shall remain nameless while batch soldering a load of points motors wired the negative wire to the wrong tab, took me doing a lot of fault finding and swapping wires between the working decoders to find out, anyway rewired them and now i have working points! Finally i can get on with getting the last bit of track down 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 24, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2014 not much photographically to update, after sorting the decoder i test fitted the top piece of board the rear point is going to need one of my led points indicators fitting as it is going to be hidden so i wont be able to see the position of the points i prewired and fixed the point to the top board last year, again wrongly, so i rewired it earlier ready to be fited once ive done the point indicator for the lower point and in loosely place you can see how close it is to getting the full circuit round may well try and get some more done tomorrow as i've actually got a day off!! 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hi Big Jim, you carpentry looks super mate, well done, still looking forward to seeing some trains, maybe even a Class 70 hahaaaa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Great to see you getting in some layout time Jim and sorted the point coder issue sorted, and like your route indicator boards an easy interesting way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Glad you got it sorted jim will look forward to seeing some trains running soon David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 25, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2014 a quick hour or so in the shed earlier, got the points indicator done and fitted up the top board wired it up to the points.... and fitted the panel to the layout side this time rather than above the layout as with the bigger panel. they light up red for the diverging route into the yard and green for the mainline i then fitted up the top board.... so near to getting the top bit of track finished maybe tomorrow!! 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Looks great mate!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Bathurst Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hi jim. Just found your layout thread. Really enjoyed reading it and following your progress. What size shed is the layout housed in? Looking forward to seeing this layout progress. Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 26, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2014 The shed is 12ft x 6ft externally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Hi Jim, What wiring up method have you used for the point indicator...? Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 26, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2014 I have wired the positive sides of the led strips to the outer rail of the points, the red strip to the diverging side and the green to the mainline side, i then joined the negatives on the 2 strips together and then wired the single feed from them to the inner heel part of the point which changes polarity when the blade is thrown. that way only one strip lights up at a time as it is dependant on the polarity of the frog, or doesnt light at all if there is no electrical feed. if you go back a couple of pages you can see some pics of the big panel i made with a few pics of the strips loosley wired to the track which explain it better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I have wired the positive sides of the led strips to the outer rail of the points, the red strip to the diverging side and the green to the mainline side, i then joined the negatives on the 2 strips together and then wired the single feed from them to the inner heel part of the point which changes polarity when the blade is thrown. that way only one strip lights up at a time as it is dependant on the polarity of the frog, or doesnt light at all if there is no electrical feed. if you go back a couple of pages you can see some pics of the big panel i made with a few pics of the strips loosley wired to the track which explain it better So not wired from a switch attached to the point motor then.....interesting. I'll give this some thought.......I'll need to brush up on the LED strips. Have a good weekend. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Layout looking good Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 27, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27, 2014 Done a bit more earlier, basically got the final bit of track in on one of the lines so i now have a full circuit The first thing was to fill the gap on the aproach to the points I then fitted the track on the inner line which joined to the existing track in the station to complete the full loop Going back to the other line im only this much short to getting that complete, i have a piece of track that will fit in there but have ran out of fishplates and there are no local model shops open til wednesday I also need a couple more lengths of track to complete the rear loop and thats the mainline done, after that its a bit of fine fettling and i can then get on with fitting up the shed area woodwork and i can begin track laying in there too I also spent a bit if time this afternoon doing a bit of house keeping, threw loads of stuff away from both on top of and below the layout, tidied up my tools, sorted the wood stack out etc so i could go in the shed without standing on stuff or knocking it off the top! Much better looking.... A nice shot of the 70 testing the track, crossing the removable section in the sunlight And while i was about it i gave the 33 a run on the incomplete 'down' line hauling my rake of detailed hachette mk1s, it quite surprisingly pulled them up the inclines with ease, it does however need its wheels cleaning as it was a bit tempramental in places, the hachettes ran well too with the replacement Hornby wheels fitted, didnt derail at all! And a video of the class 70 having a run round the layout with a short rake of ballast wagons So once trident trains opens again on wednesday i'll pop up for the last few bits of track and fishplates and get the 2nd circuit finished, really pleased to have finally got trains running 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Congratulations Jim................always a big moment when you get to run a train full circuit for the first time. Looks really good.......great bit of video......looking forward to future productions........some on board camera stuff like we used to do here...!!! Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Looking good, look forward to more. Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Awesome! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Looking great David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Looking good Jim, how long before we see a Colas 60 on your layout! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Great stuff Jim, always good to see the first train run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 28, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2014 another 'test train' this time model rail limited edition 37409 pulling a nice rake of hachette MK1s (and Bachmann brake end with missing/loose windows) this ran surprisingly well, in fact the coach that fell off most before i fine tuned bits of track was the bachy one, the 37 is sound chipped with a V4 howes 37/4 chip which stopped working towards the end of the session, i think it may have overheated as i never turned the volume down after doing a reset on it the only item of rolling stock that i have tried which really doesnt want to play ball is a kit built brass RHTT train, there is not enough free movement in the bogies on the curves, i'm sure i can cure it but there is no rush as there is plenty more i need to do before i bring more stock into the shed!! 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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