A Nod To Brent - a friendly thread, filled with frivolity, cream teas and pasties. Longing for the happy days in the South Hams 1947.

[Welchester]

2 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Careful!

 

Down with this sort of thing!

[gwrrob]

More weathering added on the warwell's top since yesterdays photos and more taken in a more familiar location.

 

 

 

[KNP]

Nice finish, just needs a load now!

[gwrrob]

4 minutes ago, KNP said:

Nice finish, just needs a load now!

 

Coming soon Kev !

 

[A Murphy]

Colour looks very good Rob. 

 

Best wishes,

 

Alastair M

[john dew]

1 hour ago, gwrrob said:

 

Coming soon Kev !

 

 

Hi Robin

 

Super job on the Warwell. Your tank looks so much better for the repaint.  I am undecided about the paint shade to use when I repaint mine. I used Humbrol khaki on my Comet and a load of Oxford lorries......it photographs yellower than it looks in real life but sort of reflects my memory of the shade Army lorries were in the fifties

 

 

I am wondering if the paint colour the Army used got progressively darker over the years...MIB will probably know.

 

My warflats finally arrived in Vancouver yesterday and I have posted a load of photos on my Granby thread. I hope it is ok if I repeat a question I raised there about preparing the tanks for transit?

The fiited magnets will help but, in isolation, would not be entirely realistic! I have to devise a method of fixing diagonal securing chains fore and aft. In transit the turrets were reversed and the gun muzzle covered. The secondary armament 7.92 Besa machine guns were removed from the housing and transported separately.

 

I have a question for the experts.....here is a close up of one of the machine guns

 

 

 

I am assuming the removable bit is the gun metal barrel (easy to snip off) and the khaki housing from which the barrel protrudes remains with the tank being part of the gun port swivel mechanism?

 

 

Hope you are going to do a how to when you fix your chains.....I think I will wait until I see how you do it!

 

Best wishes

 

John

 

 

[gwrrob]

I wondering what military modellers use to represent the cover for the gun muzzle during transportation.

[KNP]

22 minutes ago, gwrrob said:

I wondering what military modellers use to represent the cover for the gun muzzle during transportation.

Toilet paper......

or piece of a plastic bag......

[john dew]

Clingwrap perhaps?

[gwrrob]

Well a trip to Coventry's transport museum turned up the chance of a few photos of vehicles that might look right on my warflat.

 

Here we see the Daimler Dingo scout car.

 

[gwrrob]

They also have another Daimler armoured car although I thought they had the Humber version before I went.

[Trains&armour]

4 minutes ago, gwrrob said:

They also have another Daimler armoured car although I thought they had the Humber version before I went.

Daimler Ferret MK I scout car, not produced until 1952.  Bit late for ANTB. Sorry...

[gwrrob]

8 minutes ago, Trains&armour said:

Daimler Ferret MK I scout car, not produced until 1952.  Bit late for ANTB. Sorry...

 

Spoilsport. What about Monty's victory car instead then....

 

[Trains&armour]

9 minutes ago, gwrrob said:

 

Spoilsport. What about Monty's victory car instead then....

 

No small scale model of that, as far as I know. But this comes close:

 

Four to a warflat...

[Trains&armour]

On 18/10/2019 at 18:39, john dew said:

The fiited magnets will help but, in isolation, would not be entirely realistic! I have to devise a method of fixing diagonal securing chains fore and aft. In transit the turrets were reversed and the gun muzzle covered. The secondary armament 7.92 Besa machine guns were removed from the housing and transported separately.

 

I have a question for the experts.....here is a close up of one of the machine guns

 

 

 

I am assuming the removable bit is the gun metal barrel (easy to snip off) and the khaki housing from which the barrel protrudes remains with the tank being part of the gun port swivel mechanism?

 

Best wishes

 

John

 

 

Does this answer your question? 

source:  Ware, P (Ed.) The War Archives, British Cruiser Tanks of World War 2. Cudham 2014, page 48-49 

According to the original caption, these are new tanks leaving the Leyland factory. But looking at the state and markings of the tanks , I'm pretty sure these are not new. Maybe tanks returned to the factory to be refurbished? Note the lack of all weaponry. And I wonder what is hiding underneath the tarpaulins in the background... 

Edited October 19, 2019 by Trains&armour
typo

[M.I.B]

42 minutes ago, Trains&armour said:

According to the original caption, these are new tanks leaving the Leyland factory. But looking at the state and markings of the tanks , I'm pretty sure these are not new. Maybe tanks returned to the factory to be refurbished? Note the lack of all weaponry. And I wonder what is hiding underneath the tarpaulins in the background... 

 

Used gun tanks returning for conversion:

 

Bridgelayer

AVRE

ARRV

 

[Clive Mortimore]

1 hour ago, Trains&armour said:

Does this answer your question? 

source:  Ware, P (Ed.) The War Archives, British Cruiser Tanks of World War 2. Cudham 2014, page 48-49 

According to the original caption, these are new tanks leaving the Leyland factory. But looking at the state and markings of the tanks , I'm pretty sure these are not new. Maybe tanks returned to the factory to be refurbished? Note the lack of all weaponry. And I wonder what is hiding underneath the tarpaulins in the background... 

Hi Sierd

 

They are from the 11th Armoured Division, which saw action in North West Europe, but they are carry the red-white-red recognition markings which they didn't have on the continent. The  red-white-red recognition markings were used in Italy but the Cromwell wasn't. They are in a worn state, track guards missing etc. I think they might be ex-6 pounder armed tanks used in training in the UK being returned to have 75mm guns fitted ready for the upcoming invasion.

 

The AFVs behind look like Archer SP anti tank guns without their 17 pounders fitted, at a guess.

[brianusa]

5 hours ago, gwrrob said:

 

Spoilsport. What about Monty's victory car instead then....

 

 

No A/C, power brakes or steering plus a manual hood!  Wouldn't sell today!

     Brian.

[Trains&armour]

37 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Hi Sierd

 

They are from the 11th Armoured Division, which saw action in North West Europe, but they are carry the red-white-red recognition markings which they didn't have on the continent. The  red-white-red recognition markings were used in Italy but the Cromwell wasn't. They are in a worn state, track guards missing etc. I think they might be ex-6 pounder armed tanks used in training in the UK being returned to have 75mm guns fitted ready for the upcoming invasion.

 

The AFVs behind look like Archer SP anti tank guns without their 17 pounders fitted, at a guess.

Hi Clive.

Thanks. I spotted that they belonged to the Black Bull division , the first even being marked as belonging to the 11th armored division HQ. Forgot about the red white red marking not being used in NW Europe, so you might well be right in this being tanks used in training. 

Refurbishing those before the invasion sounds like a good idea... Or converting them to AVRE tanks, as MIB suggested.

 

As to the archers, don't think so. We would be viewing them from the rear then, and in that case the fighting compartment should be sloping down the other way.  

Edited October 19, 2019 by Trains&armour
can't spell...

[Clive Mortimore]

1 hour ago, Trains&armour said:

Hi Clive.

Thanks. I spotted that they belonged to the Black Bull division , the first even being marked as belonging to the 11th armored division HQ. Forgot about the red white red marking not being used in NW Europe, so you might well be right in this being tanks used in training. 

Refurbishing those before the invasion sounds like a good idea... Or converting them to AVRE tanks, as MIB suggested.

 

As to the archers, don't think so. We would be viewing them from the rear then, and in that case the fighting compartment should be sloping down the other way.  

Hi Sierd

 

Good point, so what are they?

 

Too late to get my tank books off the shelf.

 

 

Edited October 19, 2019 by Clive Mortimore

[Waraqah]

20 hours ago, gwrrob said:

Well a trip to Coventry's transport museum turned up the chance of a few photos of vehicles that might look right on my warflat.

 

Here we see the Daimler Dingo scout car.

 

How many crew would this have, and how would you squeeze them all in?

[gwrrob]

I've managed to get the youngest daughter to share her Swanage Railway snaps. For those who don't know, if you alight at Corfe Castle to visit the village there's a footpath over the railway back to the Norden park and ride that's nice. Stood by the crossing we had timed it right for seeing 80104 returning to Swanage. Earlier in the day some buffoon got up on to the footplate.

 

[Tallpaul69]

22 hours ago, Trains&armour said:

No small scale model of that, as far as I know. But this comes close:

 

Four to a warflat...

I think Oxford do one?

 

Cheers

Paul

[A Murphy]

There's was/is available in sand and green (Italy) and all over olive drab for Europe IIRC.

 

Alastair M.

 

PS Love the immaculate white trainers on that foot-plate! You da man!

Edited October 20, 2019 by A Murphy

[gwrrob]

https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/humber/products/humber-snipe-tourer-victory-car-general-montgomery-76hst002