RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2016 I've actually gone and ordered a Hattons/DJ Models 14XX. That can only be a good sign, I hope. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2016 I've actually gone and ordered a Hattons/DJ Models 14XX. That can only be a good sign, I hope. So far I've resisted... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains&armour Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 So far I've resisted... Resistance is futile... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2016 Resistance is futile... A.Do I want one. B.Do I need one. C. Can I afford one. D.Would my layout be more authentic for having one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) I didn't realise that the 57xx class didn't have topfeeds originally. When did these come in? Most of the preserved examples had them so I assumed they had them. I have 8700 in shirtbutton livery. Would that one need it removing? For GWR period yes. 8700 is an odd one as the first 8700 was rebuilt as the prototype condenser 9700. The second/replacement 8700 was not built until 1934 so should have entered service with the shirt button logo. Topfeeds did not appear until the 1940's with a few fitted during the war but mass fitting not until the late 1940's onwards. Even so, many panniers lasted until 1960's scrapping without ever being fitted.The 'GREAT WESTERN' decorated engines supplied by the trade with topfeed never existed. Must say that 2721 does look good... Can you tell us how you did the cab? The rear spectacle plate is cut from plasticard using the plans in Russell 'Great Western engines' as a guide. I added tool boxes, brake handle 'cupboard' etc, again cut from plastic sheet. I first made the roof out of plasticard, but I had difficulty with the turned up gutter edges and replaced it with one made from a tin of tomatoes, cut out with kitchen scissors (do not tell my good lady) which had the benefit of the curve being partly formed. The shutter again from plastic sheet/microstrip and attached to the roof with superglue. I filled in the gab of the side sheet with off cut of plasticard. To make the chassis fit, the inside of the running plate/tanks needs cutting away (I used the rotary sanding attachment on my copycat Dremmel) until the chassis would push fit in. This has the added advantage of the enclosed under tank area being sanded away and daylight can then be seen under the boiler. I went for the full cab , initially, as the Bachmann mech cuts into the backhead, and secondly, to stop it looking like a Hornby. Took a couple of evenings - cheap and cheerful conversion. Mike Wiltshire Forgot to say, I added window frames from the Mainly Trains etch. http://www.mainlytrains.co.uk/acatalog/exp_mt226.htm Edited January 9, 2016 by Coach bogie 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2016 I've actually gone and ordered a Hattons/DJ Models 14XX. That can only be a good sign, I hope. Which one? To top feed or not to top feed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Something I didn't order turned up this morning and it would be rude not to shew it behind some suitable motive power in the shape of N class 1848. DSCN7601.jpg DSCN7602.jpg DSCN7603.jpg Nice model of the SR Pillbox brake van by Bachmann. Any chance of a close up Robin? 1848 is a lovely model by the way? Edited January 9, 2016 by 46444 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingleycustom Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 A few more of 1848. DSCN7605.jpg DSCN7607.jpg DSCN7608.jpg DSCN7609.jpg 1848 already?! ... I've got to have a shower and get down the pub, Drink! ... ... oh, that 1848 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingleycustom Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 For GWR period yes. 8700 is an odd one as the first 8700 was rebuilt as the prototype condenser 9700. The second/replacement 8700 was not built until 1934 so should have entered service with the shirt button logo. Topfeeds did not appear until the 1940's with a few fitted during the war but mass fitting not until the late 1940's onwards. Even so, many panniers lasted until 1960's scrapping without ever being fitted.The 'GREAT WESTERN' decorated engines supplied by the trade with topfeed never existed. The rear spectacle plate is cut from plasticard using the plans in Russell 'Great Western engines' as a guide. I added tool boxes, brake handle 'cupboard' etc, again cut from plastic sheet. I first made the roof out of plasticard, but I had difficulty with the turned up gutter edges and replaced it with one made from a tin of tomatoes, cut out with kitchen scissors (do not tell my good lady) which had the benefit of the curve being partly formed. The shutter again from plastic sheet/microstrip and attached to the roof with superglue. I filled in the gab of the side sheet with off cut of plasticard. To make the chassis fit, the inside of the running plate/tanks needs cutting away (I used the rotary sanding attachment on my copycat Dremmel) until the chassis would push fit in. This has the added advantage of the enclosed under tank area being sanded away and daylight can then be seen under the boiler. I went for the full cab , initially, as the Bachmann mech cuts into the backhead, and secondly, to stop it looking like a Hornby. Took a couple of evenings - cheap and cheerful conversion. Mike Wiltshire Forgot to say, I added window frames from the Mainly Trains etch. http://www.mainlytrains.co.uk/acatalog/exp_mt226.htm Rats!, so my '1930s' Panniers are nothing of the sort without resorting to butchery (or modelling, some would say). You'll be telling me Hornby's 34001 Exeter didn't have AWS before rebuilding either, I suppose? ... what do you mean, it didn't!, really?!, that's it, I give up! Glenn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2016 Which one? To top feed or not to top feed? 1450 in pristine lined BR green. I have some daft fancy of doing another OO layout in due course, goodness knows when that will be. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2016 1450 in pristine lined BR green. I have some daft fancy of doing another OO layout in due course, goodness knows when that will be. Not a million miles away from The Moguls Palace restaurant CK 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Westward Television P Angela Rippon. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2016 A.Do I want one. B.Do I need one. C. Can I afford one. D.Would my layout be more authentic for having one. A Yes B No C Probably D No Just guessing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post NHY 581 Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2016 I rather like the look of this example. As running in 1958..... Rob 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 GWR in 1958, although it does have a smoke box plate! Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2016 A.Do I want one. B.Do I need one. C. Can I afford one. D.Would my layout be more authentic for having one. A. Yes. B. No. C. Probably. D. Irrelevant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2016 I rather like the look of this example. As running in 1958..... Rob I like all the period detail and atmosphere that is in front and behind the loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev_Lewis Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 GWR in 1958, although it does have a smoke box plate! Brian. If my memory serves me correctly, three 58XXs (non auto fitted version of the 48XX/14XX) lasted until scrapping in the late 50's still wearing the final GWR livery. They received smokebox number plates but were never repainted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2016 Rob, even SJish needs 1450, (but not clean like wot is in that photo) so you must have two at least. Quackers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2016 Many moons ago I put a Bachmann pannier chassis under a Lima 94xx body. The improvement was remarkable. Here is the model in question. Apart from vac pipes and a repaint/renumber, the Lima body is untouched. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2016 A.Do I want one. B.Do I need one. C. Can I afford one. D.Would my layout be more authentic for having one. Oh 14XX! I want you! I need you! I lurve you! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2016 Oh 14XX! I want you! I need you! I lurve you! "I want you, I need you, but there ain't no way I'm ever gonna love you So don't be sad Cos two out of three ain't bad". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2016 "I want you, I need you, but there ain't no way I'm ever gonna love you So don't be sad Cos two out of three ain't bad". OK, I won't take it personally, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 10, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2016 I tell you what, Hatton's mail order is good.My order for 1420 has come already... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2016 I tell you what, Hatton's mail order is good.My order for 1420 has come already... Can this be true? The young lady said that they were expected soon, but I was thinking February at the earliest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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