RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 8, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2013 I'm sure I've seen at least another non-1366 preserved Pannier with incorrectly painted tank fronts. Regarding safety valves on 'ordinary passenger and goods locos', it seems Swindon didn't always follow the official party line, which was to a paint them green after 1922. I've an idea that there was a preserved 64XX around at one time with the front of the tanks painted black - I recall seeing a pic of it (on the Dart Valley - now SDR??). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted April 8, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2013 What was the final concensus on my 1368 livery then ? Shall I paint the front pieces green then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1962 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 It stopped at Totnes as well. Yes it was my first kit built loco from the early 90s I think.Still available here http://www.djhmodelloco.co.uk/prodpage.asp?productid=3067 for £80.Compare that with the new Hornby 42xx. Unfortunatley with another £85.50 for motor and wheels on top. Great layout BTW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) I've an idea that there was a preserved 64XX around at one time with the front of the tanks painted black - I recall seeing a pic of it (on the Dart Valley - now SDR??). But, surely, that's normal? It's the ones with green tank fronts that are the exceptions. Apart from the 1366s, I've found a couple of photos of 54/64XX in ex-works condition in the early thirties that could possibly be interpreted as having grenn tank fronts, but it's so difficult to tell, not least because of differences in the surface texture of the smokebox parts and plain sheet. For a final concensus, Robin, you'll probably need a contemporary colour photo, but I think it's beginning to look plausible at some point in the early thirties. Whether the same applies to your period, though... Nick Edited April 8, 2013 by buffalo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I agree with Nick on the difficulty of trying to distinguish colour in different planes on b&w shots, because of the different angle of incident light and the surface texture (gloss v matt makes a big visual difference). If the 1366s did appear with green tank fronts, it was probably a painting mistake. There's going to be fun and games when Bachmann's 64xx appears! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 8, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2013 There's going to be fun and games when Bachmann's 64xx appears! Oh no there isn't (at least not for some of us - there are quite a few colour pics around of them in BR green livery ) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 There has been an alarming outbreak of green-front-ism amongst the preservationists: http://locoyard.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/south-devon-railway-buckfastleigh-gwr-pannier-tank-64xx-class-6430-3.jpg http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrbsh1803.htm http://bodminrailway.co.uk/userfiles/30.jpg 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted April 8, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2013 green-front-ism That sounds like a new political party Miss P. They can't all be wrong surely. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 8, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 8, 2013 Bit late but my SWMBO has just come out with a wonderful malapropism and from this I thus I suggest Ludi Crussley as the gentleman's name (he has a 'foreign' background to his family). Quack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) They can't all be wrong surely. They probably can't all be right either: http://www.uksteam.info/wsr/picsc/98091247.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arrival_from_Holt_-_geograph.org.uk_-_435039.jpg http://www.peterboggis.co.uk/NNR_Archive/GWR_6412_IM_45.jpg http://www.lionhearttrains.com/modeldetails.php?page=models&mid=1 I trust the WSR, but I must say I don't trust any liveries coming out of the SDR. Edited April 8, 2013 by Miss Prism 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted April 8, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2013 Lovely shots you've been posting in the past few days, Robin. This thread is becoming a bit of a GWR hang-out 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcm@gwr Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 This thread is becoming a bit of a GWR hang-out Nothing wrong with that! Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 9, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2013 Would your 'English Electric' be an OMD Album by any chance? Did I miss that answer? If so, sorry. Quack 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted April 9, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Anyway back to the layout after all that prototype talk and a bit of gardening. I'm not happy with the bases on my cordylines and want to do them again.Anyone have any ideas please.I have the etched leaves from http://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/ but need to redo the bases like in this photo.7812 was spotted at the SVR a few years ago on a Santa Special.What is it with me and overbridges. Edited April 10, 2013 by gwrrob 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 9, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2013 Pipe cleaner? Q Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted April 9, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2013 Pipe cleaner? Q I want to model the stone bases Phil.I have the greenery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains&armour Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Was going to say something nasty about Devonshire Cordylines, but thought better of it... Would love to see that train included in your next installment! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 9, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Ah, those bases........how about some weeny bits of that clay stuff (can't remember the name - sorry); you could make a 'worm' but rectangular in shape and then cut off little segments and prod them a bit to get the 'variation'? Brent looks very tidy in that great pic. Manors were not that common as pilots in my days as far as I can remember. Why was the left/nearside lamp iron slightly off set? Quark Edited April 9, 2013 by Mallard60022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted April 9, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2013 Yes maybe some DAS clay. Failing that card and some quoins printed from Scalescenes? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted April 9, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2013 Yes maybe some DAS clay. Whats the difference between that and Milliput then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted April 9, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2013 Would love to see that train included in your next installment! And me.I see what I can rustle up. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted April 9, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2013 Whats the difference between that and Milliput then ? Same (ish) I think... I don't use either.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted April 9, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2013 Anyway back to the layout after all that prototype talk and a bit of gardening. I'm not happy with the bases on my cordylines and want to do them again.Anyone have any ideas please.I have the etched leaves from http://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/ but need to redo the bases like in this photo. That's a beautiful shot Robin. 7812 Erlestoke Manor in dirty unlined black in the early 50's. Then again I'm biased. As fro the cordylines I'd go with DAS modelling clay too.Saying that, don't Harburn Hobbies do one-thay will need modifying: Here's the link : http://www.harburnhobbies.co.uk/acatalog/Station___Street.html Be nice to see how you do these. Cheers, Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Talking of the The Royal Duchy,does anyone know the stations it stopped at West of Exeter as I don't think it stopped here. Neal's post surprised me by implying that the Royal Duchy left Paddington very early. No doubt it was retimed in the great timetable earthquake of winter 1961 when the Paddington to West of England service was given a two hour interval with all trains having Torbay portions and dividing at either Exeter or Newton Abbot. I have the summer 1961 timetable in front of me which shows the more traditional timings of the Duchy. It left Paddington at 1.30 pm. After Newton Abbot, where the Kingswear portion was detached, the calls were Totnes [5.45 pm], Plymouth [6.25 - 6.35 pm], Liskeard [7.4 pm], then Bodmin Road, Lostwithiel, Par, St Austell, Truro, Redruth, Camborne, St Erth and Penzance arr 9.0 pm. THe Royal Duchy was one of the WR's excuses for chocolate and cream stock, receiving its name in 1956. Chris 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted April 9, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2013 don't Harburn Hobbies do one-thay will need modifying: Here's the link : http://www.harburnhobbies.co.uk/acatalog/Station___Street.html Be nice to see how you do these. Cheers, Mark http://www.harburnhobbies.co.uk/acatalog/info_773.html Its 27mm diameter.A bit too large for my liking.Yes I thought you might like 7812. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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