RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 26, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2018 Thoroughly tested now Don, about 1500 switches, so the stop under the rail plus all the other attachments (dropper and stretcher) seem to be sufficiently robust. Reasonably happy to continue on to do the other 6 plain turnouts - the double slip is something else mind you... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I have never seen scale size working rodding I suspect you might have problems with rigidity which is a factor of cross sectional area over the length which is therefore affected by the scale factor. Perhaps the answer might be to have a point motor close to the turnout operating the blades and the rodding which could have a free end in the box. With no load on the end of the rodding it might be rigid enough to operate. Don Hi Don, I remember a EM layout at an exhibition with working point rodding, I think it was owned by Uckfield Model railway club, over in East Sussex. Cheers, Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suddaby Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Hi Don, I remember a EM layout at an exhibition with working point rodding, I think it was owned by Uckfield Model railway club, over in East Sussex. Cheers, Martyn. Hi guys, Howard Bolton's Minories layout in P4 has working point rodding from a very impressive fully interlocked lever frame. Not sure where it will be exhibited next, I saw it at S4um, but think it was also at Warley. Kevin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 26, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2018 Mostly for my own benefit as a record of how I did the first one... Solder brass stretcher mounts on first. Saw cuts in the stretcher mounts down to bottom of rail level. (not difficult as there's already the start of a slot in the casting) Solder short length of etch into slot in the stretcher mount. Lay flat with etch hanging over edge of soldering board. Bend NS wire into L, fix onto bottom of rail and against etch. Solder up. Finally add second short length of etch in the slot in the second stretcher mount. (Will fill in the photo gaps next time) 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Thanks for that Chris, more questions ! Well just one, What solder are you using for fixing the various elements ? G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 26, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2018 Probably the wrong sort. 189 with 5% silver from Hobby Holidays. I believe silver solder is highly recommended by those that do things correctly. I don't have any though. So instead went for beefing up the mechanical connection by soldering the L dropper to the base of the rail and the strip of etch which in turn is soldered to the stretcher mount and the rail. Seems sturdy enough, particularly after all the testing I've done. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 4, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2018 Switch rails all fitted to the second turnout of the crossing, wired up and working... Both frogs of the crossing are on the second board and both are switched by the modified Tortoise on board two. The Tortoise was all wired up off board and just dropped into place. The frog switching worked first time, with all polarities correct which was a surprise! Small celebration. 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2018 Switch rails all fitted to the second turnout of the crossing, wired up and working... rps20180304_221233.jpg Both frogs of the crossing are on the second board and both are switched by the modified Tortoise on board two. rps20180304_111008.jpg The Tortoise was all wired up off board and just dropped into place. rps20180304_221623.jpg The frog switching worked first time, with all polarities correct which was a surprise! Small celebration. Why the surprise you have been careful with this aspect of the work. It is nice to see the fruits of your labours and a working layout draws near as a reward. Perhaps a large celebration then. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 5, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 Thanks Don. It is another landmark for me, two out of the four scenic boards fully wired and with working turnouts. Two scenic boards left to wire, seven point motors to fit and a small bit of track left to build. I suppose after that lot I really should build the fiddle yard and control panel and that will then give me a working layout to enjoy running stuff on whilst the scenic work and stock building can continue. Good stuff. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2018 Ive got the ply.. I've gone for 6mm, I thought the 10mm was over the top. The chap in B&Q was not happy to cut such relatively small pieces and he said he couldn't do the curved ends. Pahh, I've got a file, we'll be ok. There is quite a lot of the 8' x 4' sheet left over Andy But seriously folks...... There is no under frame kit. PM's with Paul Gallon and Rob Pulham steered me to this kit: Parkside Kit PS45 LNER 12 ton goods van This is the diagram 94, its the right wheelbase, it has all of the right brake gear, buffers, axle guards and the 'box' on top is the right size overall. Chris's desired wagon differs from the kit in that it has steel solebars / headstock and the kit is all wooden, and as a plywood wagon the sides are all smooth but the kit is planked. The idea is to remove all of the raised detail on the body sides and clad in thin plasticard before adding the right strapping and doors etc. Also need to replace the solebars and headstocks I took delivery of the kit this week thanks to H and A models. Watch this space Andy 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 9, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2018 Smashing, thank you very much Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2018 Smashing, thank you very much Andy. RMweb generosity at its best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 9, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb generosity at its best. It's the return favour that worries me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2018 It's the return favour that worries me... Careful, this is a family show... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Careful, this is a family show... Its never stopped us before ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 9, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2018 Confused dot com... One of my wagons was retro-fitted with sprung W irons. Runs beautify. I was convinced that the springing units were produced by either Parkside or more likely Slater's. Can I find them on either of their websites? Nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2018 Confused dot com... One of my wagons was retro-fitted with sprung W irons. Runs beautify. I was convinced that the springing units were produced by either Parkside or more likely Slater's. Can I find them on either of their websites? Nope. re In 4mm it would be PECO wonderful wagons, the plastic springs are springs... they do 7mm wagons, if they are the same, is that what you were thinking about Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 9, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2018 re In 4mm it would be PECO wonderful wagons, the plastic springs are springs... they do 7mm wagons, if they are the same, is that what you were thinking about Andy Nope these are brass that screw into the base of the wagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) Look here. http://westernthunder.co.uk/index.php?threads/new-member-mike-osborne.6703/#post-164224 And here. http://www.westernthunder.co.uk/index.php?threads/new-axleboxes.6741/#post-164036 And here. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/122168-s7-scratch-building/page-1 Outstanding models with screw on brass w irons Best Simon Edited March 10, 2018 by Simond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 10, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2018 A while back I acquired a job lot of Exactoscale wagon chassis parts, including these two etches: My mind reading skills are not what they should be, so does anyone know where destructions can be found for them? Nothing jumps out on the C&L website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2018 http://www.finescale.org.uk/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=31 Although 4mm they may be of use Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 10, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just found something similar... INS 1000 (1).pdf Links didn't work the first few times, hence my question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Do check the links, which I found this morning - see post a couple back. Outstanding modelling Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2018 It seems a shame if they are no longer available. Mind you I have never found the need to spring or compensate 7mm wagons as long as they have been weighted. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted March 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Hey Spamalot. This is how the Peco rocking w-iron system works. I can't see it for sale separately on their website but may be worth calling them if you're interested. PS you could probably make one using the w irons from whatever you are building Edited March 10, 2018 by colin penfold Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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