RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted August 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2015 How come you had such good weather? It rained at the Eisteddfod in Meifod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted August 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) where are the right hand set of signals on the gantry for? As Mike says, the platform to the right, which now has the two straight posts. There used to be another road starting in front of the box which led into the next island platform. Mike may also be right about the Pratt truss gantry. There are very few semaphore gantries about now, another being at Hellifield, but that is a straight girder. Llandudno is a shadow of its former self. The roof used to extend along that big brick wall. There was a goods yard behind platform 1 and about 10 sidings opposite the box which fed the gas works branch. Beyond the box there were about 10 carriage sidings on the Down side, at the south end of which there was a turntable and some basic facilities for locos arriving during peak traffic. Edit for typos Edited August 2, 2015 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted August 2, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) I did think of that, Brian and I suspect you are right!! Nothing worse than rusty looking levers. It is to do with not replacing a signal to danger too early, i must admit though when i saw it i thought it was to do with using a cloth on the levers until i read the small print Signalengineer: hellifield was the one that i thought of but the llandudno signaller was unsure if it was in fact mounted into the embankment on one side rather than 2 uprights Edited August 2, 2015 by big jim 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted August 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2015 Signalengineer: hellifield was the one that i thought of but the llandudno signaller was unsure if it was in fact mounted into the embankment on one side rather than 2 uprights Hellifield has a normal leg on the platform side and a short leg on the bank side above the retaining wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted August 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2015 It is to do with not replacing a signal to danger too early, i must admit though when i saw it i thought it was to do with using a cloth on the levers until i read the small print Signalengineer: hellifield was the one that i thought of but the llandudno signaller was unsure if it was in fact mounted into the embankment on one side rather than 2 uprigh Hellifield has a normal leg on the platform side and a short leg on the bank side above the retaining wall. And hopefully this photo taken on 21st April 2015 helps too. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted August 2, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2015 Just realised.... 100 pages 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meurglys3 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Happy hundredth page Jim, keep it up. Always interesting stuff. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2015 As Mike says, the platform to the right, which now has the two straight posts. There used to be another road starting in front of the box which led into the next island platform. Mike may also be right about the Pratt truss gantry. There are very few semaphore gantries about now, another being at Hellifield, but that is a straight girder. Llandudno is a shadow of its former self. The roof used to extend along that big brick wall. There was a goods yard behind platform 1 and about 10 sidings opposite the box which fed the gas works branch. Beyond the box there were about 10 carriage sidings on the Down side, at the south end of which there was a turntable and some basic facilities for locos arriving during peak traffic. Edit for typos Llandudno ca 1978 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted August 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) Nice historical shot Dave. The bracket to the left carried the platform starters for the other island platform. Edited August 2, 2015 by TheSignalEngineer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted August 3, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2015 Just realised.... 100 pages Just dont go upsetting anyone as we want to see 200 pages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted August 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2015 Just dont go upsetting anyone as we want to see 200 pages lucky to have got to 100! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted August 3, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2015 Just dont go upsetting anyone as we want to see 200 pages More to the point, we don't want anyone else upsetting Jim & him deleting the thread! I hope we all behave ourselves well enough... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post big jim Posted August 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2015 some from today down to shrewsbury to get on the tamper to conduct to llandudno Jn the signal out of coleham is a yellow shunt disc, its the first one i've ever worked past, as it is in the picture below i can pass it all day however once the points are set to the mainline i have to obey it or its a spad, this is it set to go down via wrexham and first stop chester to change ends to head back along the coast, we did this on the Birkenhead side of the triangle then all the way to llandudno Jn, into platform 1, the road we were heading into is on the right once you get the signal you have to head back out of the platform towards colwyn bay and stop behind a position light where you change ends and once you have the signal its into the siding, the groundframe was operated by a network rail MOM so it was a quick move the tamper was then parked up at the end of the siding i then caught the train back to chester and popped into the mess room where a former work collegue was sat, turned out she was off to manchester witht he loco and stock so i used my arriva cab pass to join her to refresh chat moss in the opposite direction to saturday obviously no pics en route or in the cab, but here we are after arrival into piccadilly the stock then heads off into longsight excursion platform, which was yet another handy refresh for me, i used to go in there with fastline and back the other way, oxford road, very busy station for this train i then got off at warrington and got the train to crewe nice to get on a dvt and 67 again, surprised how much i remembered about them! 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Jim whats the top speed and your average on the journey with he tamper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11B Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Jim, Are the DVT a bit strange to travel in? I mean, the way I imagine it fells like your sat in a loco, but without the noise of the engine? Kind regards Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 That yellow shunt disc signal appears so small for drivers - probably not helped by being painted what appears to be black with only a single yellow band....even worse if the sun was shining in your eyes! I'm sure the older red/white version stands out more by miles. Just as well I'm not driving as could still be sitting there now having not noticed it change! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted August 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2015 Jim whats the top speed and your average on the journey with he tamper? 60 mph Jim, Are the DVT a bit strange to travel in? I mean, the way I imagine it fells like your sat in a loco, but without the noise of the engine? Kind regards Ian it doesn't feel that odd really, the important thing to remember when driving one is to open up and shut the power slowly do stop the loco doesnt kick you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 3, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2015 That yellow shunt disc signal appears so small for drivers - probably not helped by being painted what appears to be black with only a single yellow band....even worse if the sun was shining in your eyes! I'm sure the older red/white version stands out more by miles. Just as well I'm not driving as could still be sitting there now having not noticed it change! A red/white one has a different meaning though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Just realised.... 100 pages Wow have you had a telegram from the Queen ooooooops no will be an email from Andy here;'s to the next 100........ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 A red/white one has a different meaning though. Was originally a Red/White disc, but changed when the Loco Depot was built by the old goods shed. see photo below. The Black/Yellow disc seemed to be a WR thing as they where usually White/Yellow discs elsewhere. There are still two of the Black/Yellow ones at either end of Abergavenny goods yard, one at the exit to the stone terminal siding at Moreton on Lugg and one on the center road siding at Worcester Shrub Hill. Paul J. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted August 6, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 6, 2015 And some colour light versions in kingsland rd, bristol apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Colour versions at Kingsland Road (Bath End) and also Lawrence Hill/Barrow Rd Ground Frame Headshunt - Bristol, although the latter is OOU and the switch onto the mainline plain lined in part. Great Western Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Thinking further is another one at Weston Super Mare on the Tamper siding at the Bristol end, and another one at Bridgwater on the CEGB headshunt. I'll try and get some pictures this afternoon of the Bristol area ones, I'm not down Weston/Bridgwater way until next week. Great Western Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggesford box Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I can vaugely remember them changing one of the discs at Abergavenny over from yellow stripe on a white disc to yellow on a black disc. I think it is just to make them stand out more as a yellow stripe on a white ground does not really stand out, especially if the yellow has started to fade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post big jim Posted August 11, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2015 a few from today, done a few jobs over the last week but not bothered with pictures until today, been up at the caravan so started my day in carlisle (luckily) i dropped my van in kingmoor and hitched a ride on the logs to the station and i had planned to get myself some dinner then head down to warrington on the passenger service that overtakes it to take it to chirk and back to warrington a few from carlisle 8 car TPE loco hauled from the coast southbound TPE 37 head back to the coast scotrail 156 heads toward newcastle while a northern 158 does a shunt 66432 and 68004 heading south i caught a pendolino south planning to get off in warrington but got a call from control to say there was a major incident at helsby and the line would be shut so did i know an alternative route to chester? i came up with wigan-chat moss-manchester-stockport-altringham-northwich-chester to avoid a run round OR straight down the WCML to crewe and into basford hall, run round and back crewe to chester, the reason i put thankfully above was i got the call just after preston so i got off the pendo in wigan just in case i did get a route via manchester (which is what i was really hoping for but being as it was the tail end of rush hour i very much doubted i'd get!) had about 30 mins in wigan and my train pulled in, the driver got off for his train to warrington (which was uneffected by the incident) while i pulled onto the goods at springs branch and sat at bamfurlong Jn while a decision was made, in all my years signing the WCML, ive never done that move before eventually got the road from there and was told i would be going to basford hall to run round which was a shame, especially as i'd refreshed manchester last week (see method in my madness!) so off i went south and into basford hall where i ran round and headed back north very surreal colours in this pic! and back on the other end and that was it, arrived into chester over 2 hours late and into chirk almost 3 hours late by the time we got the single line between chester and wrexham, ended up leaving the train there as we couldnt get out on time before a possession and the only alternative route was via cannock which as you know i've learnt and am happy with but am yet to be signed off on so cant drive it! a long but interesting day all told, shame i didnt get to go through manchester though, there is something mildly satisfying about lifting 1300 ton along the viaducts between deansgate and piccadilly 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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