grahame Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Hmm, it does seem to have gone rather quiet on the N gauge Brighton Belle front. Some nice pictures from last year including it being on display at Warley, but not much news since. Is anyone in the know? G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 The last pictures I saw were the fully decorated samples on 31 January 2014, on the Arnold Facebook page. Would not be surprised if some of the embargoed news from Margate last Thursday relates to the Belle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hmm, so no embargoed news yet, then? I'm starting to wonder whether a target delivery date will ever be given and perhaps I was a little hasty to mothball my scratch-build development when I heard Hornby were going to produce a RTR version; http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/65404-brighton-belle-from-lima-pullman-lits-coaches/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Maybe they all got rejected when they arrived from China by Margate for being only halve the size they should have been. They're not used to such small items. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 The news is still embargoed Grahame. Patience... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted July 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2014 Sorry to spoil the conspiracy theory about embargoed news, I have been very reliably informed that there is no such embargo just no news to report at this moment in time, I am sure we will see an update in due course... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Hoping to see some news regarding these models sometime soon..... The livery samples looked nice. Would've thought it's well on it's way now. Graham any news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Something to note from the recent sending out of Hornby International order forms to UK retailers, the Brighton Belle items are NOT on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreamnos Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Something to note from the recent sending out of Hornby International order forms to UK retailers, the Brighton Belle items are NOT on them. Well isn't that to be expected since Hornby are not allowing sales of this item through retailers? There's no need to list it on order forms since the Belle is strictly a purchase direct from Hornby item. I frankly don't agree with that strategy, but them I'm not Hornby. Frankly, I don't really agree with branding the Belle as an Arnold item, either. Seems there's a lot I don't agree with... Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2014 Frankly, I don't really agree with branding the Belle as an Arnold item, either. My guess is that the choice of Arnold over, say Hornby, branding is one of shareholder perception. In these difficult times for Hornby, being seen to branch out into N gauge trains when the N gauge buildings (i.e. Liddle End) seems to being phased out might be considered financially risky whereas as an Arnold product it is just another N gauge product, albeit in a slightly different scale, for which the brand is synonymous. I might be completely off the mark of course! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2014 The branding choice is actually much simpler - it was Arnold (part of Hornby International) which commissioned the project. Hornby UK were reasonably surprised at the time of the announcement and in effect are acting as an agent/retailer for Arnold. Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 My guess is that the choice of Arnold over, say Hornby, branding is one of shareholder perception. In these difficult times for Hornby, being seen to branch out into N gauge trains when the N gauge buildings (i.e. Liddle End) seems to being phased out might be considered financially risky whereas as an Arnold product it is just another N gauge product, albeit in a slightly different scale, for which the brand is synonymous. I might be completely off the mark of course! The Liddle End buildings weren't 1:148 then? The Arnold Brighton Belle is being produced in 1:148 scale, not 1:160. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2014 The Liddle End buildings weren't 1:148 then? Err... I didn't say that; my point was that since Hornby has stopped producing Liddle End, i.e. British N at 1:148, it may have deliberately chosen to market the BB as Arrnold since it's métier is N gauge, even though foreign models are 1:160 not 1:148 scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 There seems to be light at the end of the tunnel..... Hornby/Arnold in an post from facebook show the 1:148 scale 5BEL wearing the 1969 blue grey Pullman livery. So finally they are on their way. Watch the Hornby page for further info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreamnos Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 All right, I can be a bit thick sometimes but I don't seem to be able to pre-order one of these sets from the Hornby website. All I can do there is request a notification of stock. Is anyone else having this issue? (Is there a magic word?) Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 All right, I can be a bit thick sometimes but I don't seem to be able to pre-order one of these sets from the Hornby website. All I can do there is request a notification of stock. Is anyone else having this issue? (Is there a magic word?) Matt For this first venture in N scale, Hornby/Arnold had a limited time frame to order so that they could judge the demand and the quantity to be produced AFAIK. I could be wrong but that's what I was told. I too missed out on the order and will enquire if there will be a second run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 For this first venture in N scale, Hornby/Arnold had a limited time frame to order so that they could judge the demand and the quantity to be produced AFAIK. I could be wrong but that's what I was told. I too missed out on the order and will enquire if there will be a second run. I registered an interest in both models several months ago when Hornby first announced the N gauge Brighton Belle, does that constitute a pre-order? I have heard nothing from Hornby since. In general Hornby do not accept pre-orders on their website, you can only buy an item when it is available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestburyJack Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I registered an interest in both models several months ago when Hornby first announced the N gauge Brighton Belle, does that constitute a pre-order? I have heard nothing from Hornby since. In general Hornby do not accept pre-orders on their website, you can only buy an item when it is available. Likewise, I entered my e-mail address but haven't had a notification yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted September 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2014 No need to worry folks there have been no pre-orders taken yet so no one has missed out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 No need to worry folks there have been no pre-orders taken yet so no one has missed out. Phew! I'd opened an account, put the Belle packs on my wishlist and requested notification when in stock - if I'd missed out someone was going to get an irate phone call tomorrow... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted September 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2014 Hi, Pre-orders now being taken: http://www.Hornby.com/Hornby-arnold-n-gauge-sr-5-bel-brighton-belle-pullman-5-car-train-pack-1934-website-exclusive.html Expected 06/10/14, Note: 5 Car Train Pack Regards, Gerry 8) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks522 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Hi, Pre-orders now being taken: http://www.Hornby.com/Hornby-arnold-n-gauge-sr-5-bel-brighton-belle-pullman-5-car-train-pack-1934-website-exclusive.html Expected 06/10/14, Note: 5 Car Train Pack Regards, Gerry 8) Thanks for the link Gerry, Unit pre-ordered, had to have a double take at the price, very good value in my book. Graham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Oddly the blue/grey one has a delivery of 22/09/2014, against 6/10/2014 for the umber/cream one. Having one at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted September 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2014 thats a early christmas present sorted ( to myself love from my wife ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagaguy Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Me too,Xmas pressie from my wife. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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