RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2013 and that game birds were sometimes involved. P No call for you to grouse, even if you are famous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted October 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 18, 2013 No call for you to grouse, even if you are famous And I had a nasty thought that you were taking about the other non PC meaning of birds. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2013 And I had a nasty thought that you were taking about the other non PC meaning of birds. Jamie No - merely code for the sort some of you have now worked out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJ Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Just remember which paper the original article came from - and take it with a pinch of salt (though I know nothing about royal trains). As a rough rule of thumb, if considering the question 'should I read the Daily Mail' the answer is usually 'no' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 As for the Royal Train, if it was the same magnificent coaching stock that I saw circa 1952, then I too would be concerned. But Mk.III's ??????????????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 In the seventies I was parked in Wolverton station car park (having my dinner and watching trains) when the Royal Train pulled in and various blokes got off and went off in a minibus .They all were wearing tail coats so I presume they were the royal staff there were about ten of them,thing that impressed me was how quiet the train was cant remember what loco was on front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 As for the Royal Train, if it was the same magnificent coaching stock that I saw circa 1952, then I too would be concerned. But Mk.III's ??????????????? And exactly where would any replacement coaches come from...? In theory they could be tagged onto the back of a future Scotrail sleeper order, but it'd still be a small, non cost effective build. And if new coaches were built, there's also the bad publicity as they would almost certainly be built abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2013 As for the Royal Train, if it was the same magnificent coaching stock that I saw circa 1952, then I too would be concerned. But Mk.III's ??????????????? Given Her Maj's role, and the relatively deplorable record of older rolling stock in collisions, it is inevitable that modern stock with better crashworthiness is gonna be part of any deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 And if new coaches were built, there's also the bad publicity as they would almost certainly be built abroad. If it was built in Britain it'd be by Bombardier or Hitachi. I can predict the Mail's wringing of hands already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 And exactly where would any replacement coaches come from...? In theory they could be tagged onto the back of a future Scotrail sleeper order, but it'd still be a small, non cost effective build. And if new coaches were built, there's also the bad publicity as they would almost certainly be built abroad. Do they have to be loco hauled? A multiple unit Royal train should be possible, in which case it's just a standard unit with a new interior and possibly some of the windows blanked off, and maybe a couple of spare vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Ones Royal Bi-Mode SET? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Obviously it will have to be built in Derby. If they don't win the contract, then the works will close, everyone in Derby will die and Britain will become a republic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2013 In the seventies I was parked in Wolverton station car park (having my dinner and watching trains) when the Royal Train pulled in and various blokes got off and went off in a minibus .They all were wearing tail coats so I presume they were the royal staff there were about ten of them,thing that impressed me was how quiet the train was cant remember what loco was on front. They would be the Wolverton lads by the sound of things although usually they're changed by then, could be some of the rescar guys of course. I don't think I ever came across an occasion when there'd have been enough 'royal staff' on the train to justify, let alone fill, a minibus of any sort although it might have been possible on a move to/from Balmoral (but then they wouldn't be getting off at Wolverton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2013 Obviously it will have to be built in Derby. If they don't win the contract, then the works will close, everyone in Derby will die and Britain will become a republic And? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Several people have mentioned new carriages, surely it would make more sense next time a big multiple unit order came up to order an extra one and create a Royal MU? Aside from the Scotrail sleepers is there any future in loose carriages anyway? And would the Scotrail sleepers even justify their own replacement cost? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkins Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Obviously it will have to be built in Derby. If they don't win the contract, then the works will close, everyone in Derby will die and Britain will become a republic And? Just look at how France has gone since they got rid of that Louis bloke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 18, 2013 Just look at how France has gone since they got rid of that Louis bloke! How can you hang them from the lamp posts without their heads? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 How about sticking a Rolls Royce car on steel wheels, Captain Howey beat them to it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2013 Several people have mentioned new carriages, surely it would make more sense next time a big multiple unit order came up to order an extra one and create a Royal MU? Aside from the Scotrail sleepers is there any future in loose carriages anyway? And would the Scotrail sleepers even justify their own replacement cost? The potential problem with m.u.s - apart from noise and vibration - is the need to vary the formation for different jobs depending on who is travelling and what they're doing, for example one of teh regular users used to spend about 3 successive nights on teh train as it suited the arrangements for various visits but it only needed a small formation whereas when one of the others used it it was twice as many vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 After a peoples princess, give 'em a peoples train...A plum nodding donkey. "I say Royal Mumsy, I don't think much of the carsey....Do the plebs really travel in these things?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Maybe the Royal Train and Royal Flight should be both privitised and run by a partnership of and airline and railway companies something like - First Monarch! XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted October 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 18, 2013 Maybe the Royal Train and Royal Flight should be both privitised and run by a partnership of and airline and railway companies something like - First Monarch! XF I think that the Royal Flight has been privatised for many years. I think that Hanson helicopters have the contract. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted October 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 18, 2013 Maybe the Royal Train and Royal Flight should be both privitised and run by a partnership of and airline and railway companies something like - First Monarch! XF Arrive serving The Royals? Go Ahead Your Majesty? One's Stagecoach? Or DBS - DeBrett's Snobrail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2013 After a peoples princess, give 'em a peoples train...A plum nodding donkey. "I say Royal Mumsy, I don't think much of the carsey....Do the plebs really travel in these things?" Oh, does one have a Kasey? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Oh, does one have a Kasey? P Woodenno....Pure guesswork.....Never use rail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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