RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2015 Which Kadees will you use, Ian? Suck it and see. The usual 17-19 range will be tried first. If things get really tough #5s can be used, perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted May 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2015 I've fitted mine with #18s but even these look too long, and I'm sure they'd take a #17 although I've not tried one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 A review of the all new Bachmann Class E4, in stunning LBSC Umber Livery. Designed by Robert Billinton and introduced in 1897, these small but powerful locomotives where built for local passenger, freight and branch work, with all but one surviving in to British Railways Ownership and the last being withdrawn from service in 1964. One member of the class has been preserved.This model is one of 4 versions being produced by Bachmann, including the as preserved '473' in beautiful Southern Green and both BR Early and Late Liveries. With a very high level of detail, superb performace and one of the best livery applications I have seen on a 00 Model to date, the LBSC UmberClass E4 is a must for any Pre-Grouping, Southern Region or Preserved Era Modeller! 10/10 is just not enough! Hope you enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-WI5I1XzLs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lee Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) I found Kadee number 17s were okay for it on my layout (30" radius minimum curves with 36" radius points; pulling Hornby Maunsells with Kadee 18s at the ends of the rake). Edited May 17, 2015 by Richard Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I enjoyed reading SDJR7F's review of the LBSCR E4. My Southern version needed oiling soon after I ran it in so perhaps a light oiling will reduce the gear noise. I would like to see a video of it showing how many coaches it will pull once it is run in. My E4 can easily haul 8 Hornby Maunsell coaches. I am tempted to buy a video camera that can be uploaded to my laptop. I am modelling the Swanage Railway on the LSWR where you would not see an E4 but I have ordered on because I like it. The video shows I have made the right decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I enjoyed reading SDJR7F's review of the LBSCR E4. My Southern version needed oiling soon after I ran it in so perhaps a light oiling will reduce the gear noise. I would like to see a video of it showing how many coaches it will pull once it is run in. My E4 can easily haul 8 Hornby Maunsell coaches. I am tempted to buy a video camera that can be uploaded to my laptop. I am modelling the Swanage Railway on the LSWR where you would not see an E4 but I have ordered on because I like it. The video shows I have made the right decision. Thanks ever so much Robin and glad the review was of help . I have got a running video to follow up in the near future, possibly a week or two. Though it will only be hauling a short rake of 2 Teaks and a LNER CCT (I chose this combo, purely because I though the Teak fine looked nice with Umber and the matching White Roofs ). Bet it looks really smart on Swanage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 17, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2015 Just as an aside, I wonder what prompted the choice of 579 for the LBSC-livery loco? After all, there were 75 of them and many had carried the names of lovely Sussex villages. Not so 579 - which had formerly been named Roehampton, now just a London suburb. Poor show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 My LBSC E4 is handling the curves and pointwork on my shed layout very well. It's hauling an assortment of BR blue parcels stock, so I'd like to join the couldn't-care-less-what-it-pulls club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Just as an aside, I wonder what prompted the choice of 579 for the LBSC-livery loco? After all, there were 75 of them and many had carried the names of lovely Sussex villages. Not so 579 - which had formerly been named Roehampton, now just a London suburb. Poor show! Oy! I worked in Roehampton. Fair comment, though. I wonder if Bachmann will ever do a named version? It has to be strong possibility, the development and production costs of that model must have been huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Just as an aside, I wonder what prompted the choice of 579 for the LBSC-livery loco? After all, there were 75 of them and many had carried the names of lovely Sussex villages. Not so 579 - which had formerly been named Roehampton, now just a London suburb. Poor show! Probably something horribly mundane such as the availability of good quality prototype photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ianmaccormac Posted May 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) The original boilers had a wasted smokebox. Names disappeared later and most E4s had the new style boiler by the time the livery changed to Umber. You can see the earlier type in the attached photo of Fletching which is painted in Stroudley Goods Green livery with black lining. Different chimney, safety valves, dome and site for whistle; but a potential conversion? The new style boiler was fitted to 579 in August 1912. When mine arrives I will see how the boiler is made and whether it is a feasible, easy, conversion or if it would be easy for Bachmann to just change a few parts? Anyone with a photo of the non-pump side? Even the video only showed one side, but thanks for the details from that as it is the first time I have seen the loco other than from the retailers. Cheers Ian, member of the Brighton Circle. Edited May 17, 2015 by ianmaccormac 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Hattons have told me that the Bachmann Branchline 35-075 class E4 Brighton tank 0-6-2 579 in LB&SR umber is now in stock & ready to purchase for £93.46. More than 10 in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 The original boilers had a wasted smokebox. Names disappeared later and most E4s had the new style boiler by the time the livery changed to Umber. You can see the earlier type in the attached photo of Fletching which is painted in Stroudley Goods Green livery with black lining. Different chimney, safety valves, dome and site for whistle; but a potential conversion? The new style boiler was fitted to 579 in August 1912. When mine arrives I will see how the boiler is made and whether it is a feasible, easy, conversion or if it would be easy for Bachmann to just change a few parts? Anyone with a photo of the non-pump side? Even the video only showed one side, but thanks for the details from that as it is the first time I have seen the loco other than from the retailers. Cheers Ian, member of the Brighton Circle. Thanks for the photo. discs and lamps (albeit turned backurds!) on the same loco. I wonder how long that practice last. I,d love to find a BR era pick showing this combination.( unlikely though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted May 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2015 My but the LBSC is one pretty little thing.Thanks to John & TrackShack for swift delivery.I don't need it but simply could not resist it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 A few more screen shots from my resent review, showing a few of the smaller details and livery application (Again sorry about the low quality of the images). Hope this helps! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-WI5I1XzLs 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted May 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2015 Thanks Callum, looks beautiful, now I want one!! cheers, Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Mine came from Rails yesterday, beautifully packed. It is such a wonderful model even if it doesn't have separate handrails on each side of the cab door. I suspect we'll see a named version in the earlier livery at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Thanks Callum, looks beautiful, now I want one!! cheers, Keith Thanks Keith! Glad they where of help. Highly recommend, such a superb model! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Named version, possibly in the 'Improved engine green' for the next Collectors Club model anyone ? Maybe the 'feature not seen on a club model' will be blank tank sides and a decal sheet with multiple name / number choices for us to apply. Well I can dream can't I ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 GNR Dave - I suspect that the tooling used for the E4 would not suit its original configuration and it may not be possible to back-date the model to this livery. I believe Marsh chimneys were added - I guess that's what she's got - and maybe new boilers etc that altered the appearance? Someone with more knowledge of the subject than I (almost anyone), will doubtless correct these assertions if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Way to kill a guys dream man ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoverPriory Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I have to agree that these E4's look good. But I have found them temperamental to run. I bought 2 to replace Hornby 08 shunters. Well one E4 had to be taken back it was so bad. The other is 'tolerable'. And the shunters have come back into service ferrying rolling stock round the layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartb Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Received my one today, run it around my test track and went well both ways. Now just the wait for something to put behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted May 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2015 Mine also arrived today, runs very smoothly and quietly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ianmaccormac Posted May 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Hi I have taken the body off and looked carefully at it all. Bachmann have left it so that with a small bit of extra tooling they would be able to produce the original version. The front of the boiler moulding, from the side tanks forward, is separate and the split is at footplate level. Cab handrails are separate as well. All that would be needed would be another front part to the existing boiler and tanks bodyshell and a new chimney, dome etc. Not a whole new loco, probably just a couple of small injection mould tools or maybe one larger one. As someone said, that would be awesome! Stroudley Improved Engine Green or Goods livery, with names or as someone suggests, blank tanksides with decal sheets and numberplates. These seem to be selling well, as they should! Hopefully this will spur Bachmann on for more pre-grouping stock. Gladstone? Cheers Ian Edited May 21, 2015 by ianmaccormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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