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Hornby APT


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Don't really know, if by any remote chance the prototype was made serviceable again as a preservation project then it might spark some interest from the manufacturers. However that scenario is unlikely.

But as a part of our railway history/heritage it would be nice to see a model completely retooled to modern standards with decent motors, lights and tilting mechanism. It was done for the Blue Pullman and that has proved a superb model so never say never.

Also it would be good to see the original HST prototype or indeed the gas turbine HST.

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Don't really know, if by any remote chance the prototype was made serviceable again as a preservation project then it might spark some interest from the manufacturers. However that scenario is unlikely.

But as a part of our railway history/heritage it would be nice to see a model completely retooled to modern standards with decent motors, lights and tilting mechanism. It was done for the Blue Pullman and that has proved a superb model so never say never.

Also it would be good to see the original HST prototype or indeed the gas turbine HST.

Indeed, It was the success of the Blue Pullman that made me first think that such a project would be possible!

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Hornby scrapped the moulds for the APT probably 25 odd years ago.

Tooling for models is rarely deliberately disposed of although it can become damaged. Hornby are very good with their tooling archive though and I would expect that the moulds are all in store. You may recall that before Bachmann reissued the Blue Pullman, Simon Kohler of Hornby was quoted as having said that Hornby had checked and assessed the tooling for the Tri-ang Blue Pullman, which was last used 40 years ago!

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Do you think we'll ever see this upgraded and remade?

 

No. However Olivias Trains do an amazing job of refurbishing the power coach. They put two eurostar motors inside and it goes like a rocket. I think the model is actually quite reasonable given it's age. Olivias's gave my APT a new lease of life as it was on its last legs.

 

http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Hornby-diesel-electrics/Hornby-apt-5-car-set-options-in-intercity-livery/

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yes i dare say with new finer wheelsets, some lights and a decent motor the old model could indeed be made into something a bit more acceptable.  Was glazing flush fitted as standard on this?  maybe the lightest of weathering applied to the lower half.......and a driver figure in the cab.

 

The folk that believe AC electric locos dont sell are unlikely to change their thinking on a retooled high speed AC express multiple unit..........

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yes i dare say with new finer wheelsets, some lights and a decent motor the old model could indeed be made into something a bit more acceptable.  Was glazing flush fitted as standard on this?  maybe the lightest of weathering applied to the lower half.......and a driver figure in the cab.

 

The folk that believe AC electric locos dont sell are unlikely to change their thinking on a retooled high speed AC express multiple unit..........

 

I found the old APT motor coach used to struggle over today's points because of the wider flanges. So from that regard the Olivia's treatment works very well. They do also offer to add directional lighting and even sound if you're into that.

 

As I said previously, I actually think, given it's age that it's an excellent model and captures the APT profile well.

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Looking at the film it is a beautiful looking set. I would like to own a new set, but given that Olivias do a conversion I may well look out for an old Hornby set as a project.

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Given that we're already at a stage when almost every diesel class has been produced, we're seeing duplicates, obscure prototypes commissioned and AC electrics trialled, I wouldn't be surprised at anything appearing over the next 10-15 years!

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Given that we're already at a stage when almost every diesel class has been produced, we're seeing duplicates, obscure prototypes commissioned and AC electrics trialled, I wouldn't be surprised at anything appearing over the next 10-15 years!

 

Whilst I agree with your statement I think it'as highly unlikely that the APT will ever be produced as a RTR model again. The real thing was only in service for a short time and would really come under a specialist category. I do think (and hope) we will see more EMUs such as the electrostars but I doubt APT would even come into consideration.

 

Feel free to prove me wrong Hornby :)

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But what is to say Bachmann don't pick it up and make it? Why does it have to be Hornby? Maybe start with a 6 car set and sell additional coaches to those that want them. I'd definitely be in for a set. They are still being snapped up on places like eBay so there is the demand and they go for a good price still. 

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But what is to say Bachmann don't pick it up and make it? Why does it have to be Hornby? Maybe start with a 6 car set and sell additional coaches to those that want them. I'd definitely be in for a set. They are still being snapped up on places like eBay so there is the demand and they go for a good price still. 

 

Most of the APT is composed of articulated vehicles, so it would have to be sold as a complete set.

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Most of the APT is composed of articulated vehicles, so it would have to be sold as a complete set.

Yes and No, the articulated ends of the Hornby coaches each had their own half bogie - one axle. I dont see why an intermediate vehicle could not be made with the same system

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